First Grow In 6 Years - Chemdog, Berry Ryder, Northern Lights

polo the don

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Nieces? Shit you've got 'joint' custody.
I'm NOT gonna pay child support!

14.83 from 3 autos is impressive.
It was 13.83, I impressed myself!

Gonna be a while b4 I'm on that level
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But you will get there. I know you will, I have faith in you.



Before I seen the pix i was thinking N tox but the pix look great. Do they have a dark green, blueish hue to the leaves or are the tips of your fan leaves curling down? Weak stems? Those are signs of too much N. From what I can see they look happy but a pic doesn't always show the subtle things.
 

polo the don

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About the browning pistils, the first ones to come out are the first ones to turn brown/red. Just like with your trichomes you will always have some clear some cloudy and some amber. The oldest ones turn first and the plant is always making new ones so always some clear too. Don't sweat it.


Be watchful for mold and it mildew on those boxes.

Your doing a great job. I'm proud of you and you should be proud of yourself.
 

ayr0n

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I'm NOT gonna pay child support!



It was 13.83, I impressed myself!

.

But you will get there. I know you will, I have faith in you.



Before I seen the pix i was thinking N tox but the pix look great. Do they have a dark green, blueish hue to the leaves or are the tips of your fan leaves curling down? Weak stems? Those are signs of too much N. From what I can see they look happy but a pic doesn't always show the subtle things.
No blue n the stems def aren't weak. Fans hardly can move em anymore from what I can see...some of the fan leaves curve down slightly but most are praying to the lights ...

They're starting to 'stretch' I think...does that begin a couple weeks into flower? That tall northern lights prob put on 8" this last week n the others are still climbing too
 

polo the don

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No blue n the stems def aren't weak. Fans hardly can move em anymore from what I can see...some of the fan leaves curve down slightly but most are praying to the lights ...

They're starting to 'stretch' I think...does that begin a couple weeks into flower? That tall northern lights prob put on 8" this last week n the others are still climbing too
Most strains stretch for a couple weeks when they start to flower. I find that autos seem to stretch a lil longer than just 2 weeks. I think it's because there doing everything at once, veg, transition, and flowering. They don't have the change in light hours to induce flowering they just do the damn thang.
 

ayr0n

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Hey bro! Where's that update????
The tall NL got some heat stress before the canopy was evened out n the light was raised...a lot of the new growth was damage but it looks like its coming back pretty strong. Light can't go up much further so I'll have to work on the airflow...the tent is packed now.

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The berry ryders are starting to frost up more.
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Pine Time and Rez Dawg are both starting their 2nd set of leaves. Can already see the leaf deformities in the chemdog that the other 2 had. Regardless of the odd growth all 3 seemed to have developed relatively quickly. Pine Time is slightly behind Rez Dawg X.
 

polo the don

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Lookin pretty good. That berry Ryder pic is awesome. Mmmm berry Ryder.

I keep a fan on each light blowing between the bulb and the canopy to keep heat from building up. I don't do aircooled and don't remember if you do but I would think a fan is still needed. I know you have that tower fan in there but try blowing some air under that bulb. 600's put out a lot of heat, I know I have 8 of them. The trick for me is to not allow the heat to collect.

Damn I want some berry Ryder. Next auto order I'm getting some.
 

ayr0n

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Lookin pretty good. That berry Ryder pic is awesome. Mmmm berry Ryder.

I keep a fan on each light blowing between the bulb and the canopy to keep heat from building up. I don't do aircooled and don't remember if you do but I would think a fan is still needed. I know you have that tower fan in there but try blowing some air under that bulb. 600's put out a lot of heat, I know I have 8 of them. The trick for me is to not allow the heat to collect.

Damn I want some berry Ryder. Next auto order I'm getting some.
Now that the foliage is so dense I thought about maybe picking up another tower fan n putting in the opposite corner. The light (no cool tube) is up by the exhaust opening now so a lot of that heat should flow right out of the tent. It's the farthest I've had it from them since they sprouted but I think they're still getting plenty of light seeing how the 600w is overkill for this footprint anyways. I really don't want to defoliate the girls but it might be necessary to prune a little for airflow. Looks like mold waiting to happen with them overgrowing onto each other and all the leafs so close together. Nice having tight inter nodes but they're almost a little too tight. Next time through I've really need to do larger pots n less plants - Gonna let the chemdog and pineapple punch finish up before working out the next run. Really want to get these Gage Green seeds going but was thinking bout just running the 2 HiJack autos alone in the tent next time ...Dunno yet
 

ayr0n

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I think this is the pots. I tried to look through my amazon purchase history to make sure but I buy too much shit and it don't go back that much but I pretty sure these are the ones. If you ever need more good pots for autos, I recommend these.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0099SN8YE/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?qid=1406770441&sr=1-2&pi=SX200_QL40
Just ordered another tower fan, a 10pk of those 5gallon fabric pots you linked me n 3 pH meters because my other one fell n the water n broke -.-

Gotta pick up another tent, a fan/filter, some snips, a hanging drying rack, humidity packs, mason jars, and a couple hygrometers before the end of this month to get ready for harvest...
 

polo the don

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Just ordered another tower fan, a 10pk of those 5gallon fabric pots you linked me n 3 pH meters because my other one fell n the water n broke -.-

Gotta pick up another tent, a fan/filter, some snips, a hanging drying rack, humidity packs, mason jars, and a couple hygrometers before the end of this month to get ready for harvest...
Sounds like you have a plan.

I always wanted to try autos in 5gal. I've only used 2 and 3 gal so far. Maybe next year. I still haven't fully started this summers auto grow, I've been lazy. I usually do them at the beginning of summer because that's when I have the extra space. My wife's lil fine ass sister lives with us most of the year to go to school here but she's taking the fall semester off so I'll still have room for a few more months. I grow my autos in her room while she's away. I have plenty of room year round, we have a big house but I already use two rooms to grow full time and my wife won't let me have any more space. I guess she can limit me, she pays the mortgage.

So what gage green strain you gonna grow?
 

ayr0n

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I have plenty of room year round, we have a big house but I already use two rooms to grow full time and my wife won't let me have any more space. I guess she can limit me, she pays the mortgage.
I'm n the same boat. Lot of wasted space here but good luck talking my girl into turning it into a weed garden haha.
My wife's lil fine ass sister lives with us most of the year to go to school here but she's taking the fall semester off so I'll still have room for a few more months.
Tell ur wife's sister I said whatsup ;)

So what gage green strain you gonna grow?
Got 12 of these 'bastard series' seeds where they took some of their best males / females and let them open pollinate. Was thinking about picking out 1 male n 1 female from the 12 and crossing them to make some more beans. Here's a link to the seeds: https://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/gage-green-seeds-bastards-series-old-school-afghan-haze/prod_3554.html

and here's a grow journal on em from someone on their forum: https://gagegreen.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=2137&start=110
 

ayr0n

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Grabbed 3 pH meters so this never happens again..had to guess on the last watering n they don't look nearly as good now. Almost looks like nitrogen deficiency but on the top leaves rather than the bottom...outside of leaves turning lime green / yellowish, inside staying green...hopefully I can get this shit back on track

I think they're hungry for something but not sure what it is...New meters will b here Thursday
 

polo the don

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Tell ur wife's sister I said whatsup ;)
I hope you like black pussy! I know I sure do.

Got 12 of these 'bastard series' seeds where they took some of their best males / females and let them open pollinate.
Looks promising, imagine the possibilities.

Grabbed 3 pH meters so this never happens again..had to guess on the last watering n they don't look nearly as good now. Almost looks like nitrogen deficiency but on the top leaves rather than the bottom...outside of leaves turning lime green / yellowish, inside staying green...hopefully I can get this shit back on track

I think they're hungry for something but not sure what it is...New meters will b here Thursday
A good general feeding of everything with proper pH will more than likely sort this out. Some plants get extra hungry when there flowering as hard as your girls are. It wouldn't hurt to hit then with some cal/mag at this point too.
 

ayr0n

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I hope you like black pussy! I know I sure do.
Who doesn't?? Haha

I hope you like black pussy! I know I sure do.



Looks promising, imagine the possibilities.



A good general feeding of everything with proper pH will more than likely sort this out. Some plants get extra hungry when there flowering as hard as your girls are. It wouldn't hurt to hit then with some cal/mag at this point too.
Grabbed a bottle of calmag at the local hydro store on my lunch. General Organics line (think it's a subsidiary of general hydroponics - http://www.hydroponics.net/i/134729 )...might as well hit em with it lightly for the next couple waterings
 
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ayr0n

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Can you guys help me out a little? I need to water the girls again but don't have a pH meter until Thursday...My well water is ~7.7 pH and I normally use about a dropper full of pH down per gallon to get it to 6.4-6.6...
If I add molasses and calmag how will that effect the pH? Can anyone give me a ballpark, if it goes up or down from either of those so I can guesstimate it a little better. Hopefully this is the last time they get watered with a guessed pH

@Sativied @polo the don @SlimTim @GroErr
 

GroErr

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Can you guys help me out a little? I need to water the girls again but don't have a pH meter until Thursday...My well water is ~7.7 pH and I normally use about a dropper full of pH down per gallon to get it to 6.4-6.6...
If I add molasses and calmag how will that effect the pH? Can anyone give me a ballpark, if it goes up or down from either of those so I can guesstimate it a little better. Hopefully this is the last time they get watered with a guessed pH
Sorry, not much help here, I don't even have a pen/meter. Tested my water once with a cheap/chinese meter and it fell at 6.5 through the Brita on-tap filter (mainly to filter the chlorine, it's high where I am), good enough for me and I've never seen a ph issue. Maybe lucky but I can't be bothered unless I see an issue that could be related to ph.
 

Sativied

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Not much help here either. I never bothered controlling pH on soil, never used molasses nor calmag so not speaking from experience, but I would not worry about it and just do what you normally do. Not sure if molasses has a major effect, calmag does change the pH but since you are on soil the pH range variates throughout the pot and it's not like you will mess that up in a couple of days unless you'd go heavy on the calmag. One of the main causes of messing up soil pH is trying to control it precisely in the first place.
 

ayr0n

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Sorry, not much help here, I don't even have a pen/meter. Tested my water once with a cheap/chinese meter and it fell at 6.5 through the Brita on-tap filter (mainly to filter the chlorine, it's high where I am), good enough for me and I've never seen a ph issue. Maybe lucky but I can't be bothered unless I see an issue that could be related to ph.
Not much help here either. I never bothered controlling pH on soil, never used molasses nor calmag so not speaking from experience, but I would not worry about it and just do what you normally do. Not sure if molasses has a major effect, calmag does change the pH but since you are on soil the pH range variates throughout the pot and it's not like you will mess that up in a couple of days unless you'd go heavy on the calmag. One of the main causes of messing up soil pH is trying to control it precisely in the first place.
So it's probably not as critical as I'm making it out to be eh? I'm sure the soil and microbes buffer it to an extent. Just seemed like everything was going so smooth, then I watered once without adjusting the pH (well not accurately) and they just don't have the same vibrancy...still perky and mostly green but they don't look right. Something is up... Could it be the molasses causing an issue? That's the only other change
 
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