paclobuytrozol or daminozide?

941mick

941mick

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Summary by Health Canada-
Response from the Pest Management Regulatory
Agency (PMRA) to the Request for Special Reviews of
Pesticides from the David Suzuki Foundation

Paclobutrazol (CAS# 76738-62-0)
Conclusions:
This active ingredient was registered in 1995 in Canada and an assessment of its impact on the environment and human health was conducted at the time. Products are approved for registration in Canada by the PMRA only when the risks to health or the environment, and its value, are acceptable. The regulatory action taken by Sweden for paclobutrazol predates the Canadian registration decision. The persistence of paclobutrazol and its impact on the environment was taken into consideration in the registration decision.
 
budman111

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Smoking unfiltered tobacco at one point was strongly encouraged by doctors to all ages, Asbestos was regarded as a must have in the home, In the early 1900's people believed that radioactivity was good for you, Mercury was thought to cure diseases, Lead was thought to be the dogs bollocks in paint, but hey, enjoy your ominously dubious buds man!

 
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Uncle Ben

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Nothing like a good ol green wacko to liven things up.

Look, nobody is forcing your narrow minded, ignorant young minds to use anything.

Old dog benefitting from new tricks,
Uncle Ben

end of thread........
 
941mick

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Uncle Ben said:
Nothing like a good ol green wacko to liven things up.

Look, nobody is forcing your narrow minded, ignorant young minds to use anything.

Old dog benefitting from new tricks,
Uncle Ben

end of thread........
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If your using it in veg/early flower on your sativa's, based on the half life information I provided from an unbiased source, you shouldn't have to worry about it being active in your finished product. However people using it a few weeks before harvest will have active paclo in their product.
 
budman111

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941mick said:
If your using it in veg/early flower on your sativa's, based on the half life information I provided from an unbiased source, you shouldn't have to worry about it being active in your finished product. However people using it a few weeks before harvest will have active paclo in their product.
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See, this is it, is it worth the risk? does the benefit outweigh the risks? I think not, if just to shorten plants such as bonzi and is 'Not fit for human consumption' then one must re-evaluate why they are growing in the first place.
 
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Uncle Ben

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budman111 said:
See, this is it, is it worth the risk? does the benefit outweigh the risks? I think not, if just to shorten plants such as bonzi and is 'Not fit for human consumption' .
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Well........a liter of tequila is "not fit for human consumption" either at one sitting. "Then one must re-evaluate why they are drinking in the first place".
 
941mick

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Uncle Ben said:
Well........a liter of tequila is "not fit for human consumption" either at one sitting. "Then one must re-evaluate why they are drinking in the first place".
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I think your choosing the wrong angle for your argument. Your better off sticking with the idea that you are using it properly, and that any adverse effects are not even present in your flowers. If you subscribe to thinking your providing a medicine that is a better alternative to pharmaceuticals with many adverse health effects, then using paclo at certain times in growth would be a hypocritical practice. Now if you just think your providing a substance for people to get high off of, and the consumer is at the will of the market, then who cares...

Would you be against the idea of it being restricted to licensed use?
 
jarvild

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And what about the question I asked, Do you inform whom-ever you distribute your product to that you used said product on it?
 
Uncle Ben

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There is a lot of spin here based on feelings not facts. Toxicity is relative to the amount and what affect it has on certain body parts, tissue. No one including me knows if any of the paclo is absorbed in its original form, whether it remains that way or is (likely) down, and if it is what amount is residual in the plant and how or if it directly affects someone's health. I and other growers have used paclo over 10 years or so with no ill effects. How do I know that, personally? Because I usually get annual physical checkups with includes a complete blood chemistry work up, lung xrays, carotid image scans....you get the picture.

The drench I use is 3%. And no, my friends who are my customers do not know I used paclo on the O. Haze. That would only confuse them and it's not an issue anyway. If it aint broke, don't fix it. Now, if any one would like to test my plant tissue using gas-liquid chromotagraphy, I'll be glad to submit a sample. :)

The "tests" are always flawed as it relates to the real world. You give a lab rat any amount of most any element and it's gonna have toxic affects.

Now, why don't ya'll hop on your skateboards and do what really works fer ya like defoliation and go flush them stunted plants 3 weeks prior to harvest to improve the yields and taste.

UB
 
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941mick

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Uncle Ben said:
There is a lot of spin here based on feelings not facts. Toxicity is all about the amount and exactly what affect it has on certain body parts, tissue. No one including me knows if any of the paclo is absorbed in its original form, whether it remains that way, and if it is what amount and how it directly affects someone. I and other growers have used paclo over 10 years or so with no ill effects. How do I know that, personally? Because I usually get annual physical checkups with includes a complete blood chemistry work up, lung xrays, carotid image scans....you get the picture.

The drench I use is 3%. And no, my friends who are my customers do not know I used paclo on the O. Haze. That would only confuse them and it's not an issue anyway. If it aint broke, don't fix it. Now, if any one would like to test my plant tissue using gas-liquid chromotagraphy, I'll be glad to submit a sample. :)

The "tests" are always flawed as it relates to the real world. You give a lab rat any amount of most any element and it's gonna have toxic affects.

Now, why don't ya'll hop on your skateboards and do what really works fer ya like defoliation and go flush them stunted plants 3 weeks prior to harvest to improve the yields and taste.

UB
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Like I said your use should not show any adverse effects, but I don't think you should attempt to speak for growers using it few weeks before harvest. You simply do not know. There is information showing adverse effects from higher concentrations, and in the hands of the wrong person, they could harm people over time.
 
Uncle Ben

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941mick said:
Like I said your use should not show any adverse effects, but I don't think you should attempt to speak for growers using it few weeks before harvest. You simply do not know. There is information showing adverse effects from higher concentrations, and in the hands of the wrong person, they could harm people over time.
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Are you a nanny full or just part time?
 
shaggyballs

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I would suggest..treat with paclo and have it tested before you smoke it then you will know for sure!
It may reduce quality also.....But I do not use it.
I have smoked weed it was used on.....never use late, never!
Daminozide is horrible stay away from that for sure.
I have not heard anyone promoting it.
 
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