paclobuytrozol or daminozide?

[941mick]

I'm sure there are safe ways to use paclo, but a lot of the people buying it at the shop I work at are some pretty ignorant people who don't have the slightest idea how to grow a plant in the first place. They just hear it will make your flowers as hard as rocks, and rush off to the shop in the hopes of getting that effect with their shitty genetics. It's just a quick fix for the majority of people buying it...

 

[budman111]

I'm sure there are safe ways to use paclo, but a lot of the people buying it at the shop I work at are some pretty ignorant people who don't have the slightest idea how to grow a plant in the first place.

Exactly. Like I said earlier, Seasoned growers don't need this.

 

[941mick]

Having paclo readily available for consumers is very similar to having pseudoephedrine readily available. Yeah some people are gonna use it treat their bronchitis, but a lot of people are going to make meth with it as well....

 

[jarvild]

Just the reason I've been growing my own since the 70's . I want to know what I'm smoking and not rely on who or what the grower has used to achieve their product.

 

[Uncle Ben]

Where is the Fluvic lol

"fluvic"?

 

[budman111]

"fluvic"?

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All snake oil bottles of Humic acid contain Fulvic too. Not that I use them.

 

[Uncle Ben]

Exactly. Like I said earlier, Seasoned growers don't need this.

Right, and seasoned chefs don't need a mandoline. They'll just sit there with a bag of potatoes and process by hand for 2 hours.

I've kept an outdoors O. Haze down to a manageable height of 6-7' recently rather than 12', thanks to a judicious use of Bonzi. Did 2 drenches in veg before the stretch. Check out these fine short internodes.







Heavy weight laid these branches down. Short internodes very evident.

 

[budman111]

Ben has a point, I will be good to stop Sativa stretch, personally for personal reasons I need Indica.

 

[941mick]

Yeah using it in veg or early flower is one thing. there are individuals though who are spraying paclo on their crop two weeks before harvest, and then donate it to a dispensaries for unknowing patients to consume.

 

[jarvild]

And how many consumers of your product actually know you are using this?

 

[budman111]

http://paclokills.org/

 

[941mick]

http://paclokills.org/

LMAO you posted Advanced Nutrients propaganda, not saying it's not true but they have been anti paclo for quite a while...

 

[burgertime2010]

"fluvic"?

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Hypothetical question: If you could buy any products at any price and use them in a grow would you? Do you have any silica or beneficials indoors? Do you reccommend anything you would consider vital or productive? Please.

 

[941mick]

http://paclokills.org/

Also loved how they pitched the two most overpriced products they offer.

 

[burgertime2010]

"fluvic"?

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I have read about humic acid in agricultural applications and tested to see increased crop size. The results were surprisingly clear...big boosts.

 

[Uncle Ben]

Yeah using it in veg or early flower is one thing. there are individuals though who are spraying paclo on their crop two weeks before harvest, and then donate it to a dispensaries for unknowing patients to consume.

Point by point, what are the health issues?

 

[941mick]

Point by point, what are the health issues?

You have already given the opinion that the studies out there are not valid, so why should I cite them for you? I have seen what you have had to say and I will do my own research on the studies and their results and get back to you.

 

[Uncle Ben]

http://paclokills.org/

Because the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) believes it’s probably toxic. Nothing has been scientifically proven when it comes to the effects of paclobutrazol consumption in the human body,

dork.....

 

[941mick]

Well according to the Swedish Chemicals Agency, paclo has been banned since 1991.

 

[941mick]

http://www.cawthron.org.nz/media_new/publications/pdf/2013_09/CawRpt_2357_OlivierChampeau.pdf

According to this group in New Zealand paclo is moderately harmful to rats and has a halflife of 84 days.