Doer
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Really he just asked one of his stupid, counterproductive, rhetorical Sophistries.
Hey, you were Bucked.
Impaired to drive STONED???
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Hey, you were Bucked.
NLXSK1
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No, I am fine with them testing for impairment but not using some arbitrary number to determine whether to fine the fuck out of you and restrict your driving privileges.
You don't need a starter to get this vehicle running, just strong legs and gravity. Electrical windings might induce a voltage in them, but it would not be strong enough to affect anything, a starter can handle a million volts of electricity EASILY, the voltages induced would have to be on the scale of lightning to have any physical effect at all, and even then would probably survive intact.
tip top toker
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Well whether it is a impairment test, or a scientific number based test, either way it would be legislating against bad behavior.
Nice strawman.
tip top toker
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What strawman? I am interested in his opinion based on his statement that we shouldn't legislate against bad behaviour. I'm sorry if that upsets you.
Doer
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Oh you wish you upset people, so don't lie about it.
What impairment can you equate with alcohol for ganga?
My reaction times are not slowed. I can grab the falling ruler the same place stoned or not.
Can you grab a falling ruler thru your thumb and finger after 2 drinks?
No. And I can't either. So throwaway, meaningless questions are just Buck trolls. Busted.
Name a measurable impairment and stop clouding the conversation, how about?
Figure it out.
tip top toker
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I forgive your misunderstanding. You must find it hard to understand that some people are simply interested in peoples opinions on subjects and not here to just have an argument. NLX stated that we shouldn't legislate against poor decisions with regard to driving high, i was interested in whether he also believed that true with regard to drink driving, and as it turns out, it's not as black and white as simply not legislating. Hard to have a strawman argument without an argument 
Sorry to disappoint you.
But i am also to blame, it was silly of me to post in the politics section and think that you could have a simple discussion, i always forget that unless i argue and shout racist and attack people over a differing opinion then i have no place in this subforum.
Sorry to disappoint you.But i am also to blame, it was silly of me to post in the politics section and think that you could have a simple discussion, i always forget that unless i argue and shout racist and attack people over a differing opinion then i have no place in this subforum.
There is no misunderstanding, your reply was a textbook example of a strawman argument, don't get so emotional over others letting know that your argument is a falacy and cannot be defended in any way.
tip top toker
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What argument?
you seem to have it in your head that asking for someones opinion on a matter is an argument.I see, you are just asking him for his opinion on a different subject because you are just so damn interested in his opinion on that other subject. I mean, he never says anywhere that he is against those laws, so why would you want an opinion on them? I guess if he said that DD laws were akin to legislating morality, then I guess I can see the relation, but why you thought he said that is beyond me. Defend it as only wanting clarification all you want, camouflage it any way you want, it's still a strawman.What argument?
tip top toker
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He said we shouldn't legislate against bad decisions, i asked him if that included drink driving. given that this is about stoned driving, it is a rather relevant question.
But as i said above, sorry for coming in here not intending to have an argument. It is quite apparent by how emotional you are over something that has absolutely nothing to do with you that you are here to do nothing but argue. Have a good day
Why didn't you ask him if that meant laws against Heroin, or meth then or buggering your neighbors willing dog? If your going to kill someone, getting fucking plastered and hitting them with your car is a free ticket to ride.He said we shouldn't legislate against bad decisions, i asked him if that included drink driving. given that this is about stoned driving, it is a rather relevant question.
But as i said above, sorry for coming in here not intending to have an argument. It is quite apparent by how emotional you are over something that has absolutely nothing to do with you that you are here to do nothing but argue. Have a good day
NLXSK1
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You can get so drunk you cannot stand up. Based on this, it is pretty obvious that you dont want a person that cannot even control basic bodily functions to operate a motor vehicle.
I can smoke pot till I get bored of smoking pot and the only effect it might have on me operating a vehicle is that I drive it slower. It still gives other people a chance to avoid me.
It is the mindset that a rule or law is going to be followed 100% and thus we are all going to be safer which is dangerous to our liberties.
If you are so worried about drunk driving why are you not trying to get rid of alcohol?? It isnt the car or the person that is the problem... (not advocating for this just pointing out the hole in the logic)
I can smoke pot till I get bored of smoking pot and the only effect it might have on me operating a vehicle is that I drive it slower. It still gives other people a chance to avoid me.
It is the mindset that a rule or law is going to be followed 100% and thus we are all going to be safer which is dangerous to our liberties.
If you are so worried about drunk driving why are you not trying to get rid of alcohol?? It isnt the car or the person that is the problem... (not advocating for this just pointing out the hole in the logic)
Harrekin
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Oh I never suggested that we go drink-driving, Im just saying theres alot of other equally dangerous things that people dont sneer at.
WORDZofWORDZCRAFT
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i drive high every day but only drive drunk on the weekend nights. i've been in 8 accidents stoned but none while i was drunk.
WORDZofWORDZCRAFT
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i worked for a dr that did a huge percentage of the drug testing for jobs in our area.. there is definitely a way to tell if someone just smoked or if they smoked the day before. it shows up either way but there is a major difference in the levels
a senile fungus
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We would love it if you would elaborate.
Because I work around drug tests on a daily basis, and I only get a positive or a negative...