800 Watt AutoMazar HEMPY Bucket ScROG

PatchKid

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Ive been feeding 7 grams of Maxibloom per gallon EVERY FEEDING, Its a hydro system so I figured they need to be supplied at all times right? Cause they sure aren't getting nuts from perlite and coco.

Im thinking nitrogen toxicity. Dark Lush green leaves, and maybe a tad bit overwatering.

I lowered the drainage hole on the bucket to about 1.5 inches so hopefully that will help and I will be running plenty of clean plain water through it to wash out any salts, and dust from perlite (I forgot to do that)
 
I also read that the grow media ph could be the issue. But that was relating to soil. I use canna coco but have nit come across this problem yet. Good luck hopefully the flush will clear up something for the new growth
 

PatchKid

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I think this should def help, the overwatering should clear up the wilt in a few days, and the lack of N should fix the tox in the leaves :)
 

PatchKid

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Okie dokie well guys it has gotten worse since the last post already. Can you guys please give me some help on what you think is going on?

Im ruling out under watering, How can these plants be so droopy in a hempy bucket?



 
When my clones drooped downed like that, it was a combination of too nuch light and heat. But ill keep on reading around see if I find anything. Good luck dont give up yet!
 

PatchKid

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temps never get above 76 man and I water every couple of days or so. I just flushed her last night to help with the N overdose but usually water every couple of days
 

Wilksey

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temps never get above 76 man and I water every couple of days or so. I just flushed her last night to help with the N overdose but usually water every couple of days
Def not temps then, and they don't look dark green enough to be having an N O.D..

Is the pot noticeably lighter when you water? I don't think every two days is enough to drown them, but it IS possible to over water coco....been there done that.

She looks healthy otherwise bro, and the only other thing I can think of is maybe your LED light is too intense for it? Maybe try raising the light a bit.
 

PatchKid

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Im thinking root rot after doing some reading I do have a tiny reservoir in the bottom to hold my nute water since Im basically growing in an inert substance

Wilted leaves, and I've got the rams horn. Something is just telling me I might have got some pythium problems going on because my drainage hole has been to high and water has gotten stagnant
 

Wilksey

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Im thinking root rot after doing some reading I do have a tiny reservoir in the bottom to hold my nute water since Im basically growing in an inert substance

Wilted leaves, and I've got the rams horn. Something is just telling me I might have got some pythium problems going on because my drainage hole has been to high and water has gotten stagnant
Could be, though I don't think your drainage hole looks too high.

I hope you pull er' through regardless dude.
 

daedalux

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Hello everybody! This will be my 3rd grow since joining this site and I believe this one will be my favorite (not to mention highest yielding) one to date!

I will be growing Dutch Passion's AutoMazar, a strain that I believe I would call a "super auto". I ordered this seed along with Think Different and the mazar is the one that I decided I would take up the tent with.

Will be growing under 800 watts of LED. Im using the MARS II series lights from TopLED. The price was great for what I consider to be almost a replica of the BlackDog series. They pull about 180 watts each from what I have seen on various Kill a Watts, so we will say i'll be growing under 360 true watts of power.

I plan on doing a ScROG, usually I would just LST and tie down the branches, but I want to see how I can do using this method.

It is in a 3 gallon Hempy bucket that I made using about 75% coco coir and 25% perlite. A hole drilled about 2 inches up from the bottom will give me a small reservoir that she will use for sucking up those nutes! I have seen a few grows using this method and though it does not compete with DWC, it blows soil out of the water IMO.

You have no issues with pumps failing, no air stones to get clogged, and though you have to water more constantly than with soil, I think of that as a good thing. If I make a mistake, it can be seen very quickly and I can fix it quickly.:hump:

I will be using the KISS method with MaxiBloom (7 grams per Gal) for the majority of the grow, and during flowering time I will be using Humboldts Nutrients' Big Up Powder along with it. Cal/Mag for my calcium and magnesium. And Clearex for a flush should I ever need one in this bucket. My water will be pHed to 5.8, I will use RO when I can, but mostly tap water thats been left out for 24 hours.

I will be growing in a tent that is about 1.5x3x6, it has a 250 CFM exhaust fan at the top to evacuate the stale hot air, and an 8 inch room fan I use as my intake (MUCH stronger). My temps stay at 75 degrees pretty much all day. Maybe a couple degrees hotter on a hot day.

She will be on a 20/4 light schedule from seed to harvest. I can't wait until she starts budding and I can see that super fast growth!:bigjoint:

Here are some pics, feel free to subscribe and comment bongsmilie:peace::peace:

P.S There is only 1 Mars in the picture, the other one is in my closet finishing up my bubba kush it will be done in about a week or so.





















hey man. sorry to hear about your plants. they look over watered. is there any other drainage besides the one hole? you might also want to cover your exhaust fan too. thats letting a ton of light from your bedroom in the tent. which isnt a big deal in veg but it will fuck up your flower cycle for sure. maybe run some ducting from your exhaust vent into the cieling? anyways good luck and i hope things turn around. peace.
 

PatchKid

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hey man. sorry to hear about your plants. they look over watered. is there any other drainage besides the one hole? you might also want to cover your exhaust fan too. thats letting a ton of light from your bedroom in the tent. which isnt a big deal in veg but it will fuck up your flower cycle for sure. maybe run some ducting from your exhaust vent into the cieling? anyways good luck and i hope things turn around. peace.
I have no way of running it up to my ceiling man :( Usually when its night time for the plants, there are no lights on in the room. That is the only drainage hole on the bucket, it leaves a nice little 1 inch res on the bottom of the bucket for the plant to drink, but I think it is very overwatered, something has gone wrong maybe keeping the plant from being able to uptake any water or something (pythium)
 

daedalux

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roots love oxygen. either cut some more drainage holes or wait until your pots are bone dry before watering again. mj can withstand "drought" like conditions better than the wet variety. i only water my 5g pots once every 4 or 5 days. i let em get real dry. sometimes i even wait for the first set of fan leaves to droop then water.
 

FrozenChozen

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do you water to waste about 30% EVERYTIME.... that's how you're gonna keep salts from building and root rot from starting.... it looks like root rot imho they aren't getting the right amount of water.... also did you put hydroton at the bottom under the coco? I've heard that solves tons of problems.... roots need oxygen and water 50/50, maybe some air space before the puddle is in order... im no hempy expert though, just read quite a few guides on how to HEMPY... Good luck getting worked out!
 

PatchKid

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do you water to waste about 30% EVERYTIME.... that's how you're gonna keep salts from building and root rot from starting.... it looks like root rot imho they aren't getting the right amount of water.... also did you put hydroton at the bottom under the coco? I've heard that solves tons of problems.... roots need oxygen and water 50/50, maybe some air space before the puddle is in order... im no hempy expert though, just read quite a few guides on how to HEMPY... Good luck getting worked out!
Yeah man everytime I water I make sure that about 50% of what I put in there comes out! I added some z7 into the next watering so that should help clear up the root rot.

And don't make fun of me but I actually took an extra air pump that I had from a DWC bucket, and shoved it into the reservoir from the bottom so its bubbling all of the water in the res..... I don't know how much that would help in a hempy but i figured HEY IT WOULDNT HURT :)

the leaves have already started to perk up hopefully in another 48 hours we will be back to normal again. This has really stunted my auto and she will probably go into bloom here soon and I didn't get the veg growth I wanted.

put pics up later
 

FrozenChozen

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Yeah man everytime I water I make sure that about 50% of what I put in there comes out! I added some z7 into the next watering so that should help clear up the root rot.

And don't make fun of me but I actually took an extra air pump that I had from a DWC bucket, and shoved it into the reservoir from the bottom so its bubbling all of the water in the res..... I don't know how much that would help in a hempy but i figured HEY IT WOULDNT HURT :)

the leaves have already started to perk up hopefully in another 48 hours we will be back to normal again. This has really stunted my auto and she will probably go into bloom here soon and I didn't get the veg growth I wanted.

put pics up later
Honestly my next suggestion was gonna be to throw an air pump/stone in the res...:clap:
 

IndicaAngel

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I noticed when I went LED my hempy buckets didn't need nearly as much water as they did with my hps, so my vote is too much water also. I hope you get your girl happy again bongsmilie

I have a habit of messing with my plants even when I don't need to. Have had to sit on my hands to not water them. I wait until I can easily lift the pot and I know it's time to water them.
My greedy piglet GDP drinks non stop though.
 

PatchKid

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damn I'm pretty sure i have spider mites or some kind of bugs, when I went to water it today a bunch of bugs were flying around it and I took out my microscope and checked out under the leaves and some had been eaten...

whats a good way to fix a pest problem?
 
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