Should the US support Israel forever ?

Should the US support Israel, no matter what?


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Doer

Well-Known Member
I think you have no idea of what this is. They are up to Kassam 4, 22 pound warhead.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19307399
Abstract
INTRODUCTION:
Over 2000 improvised rockets (called "Kassam" rockets) have been targeted at the south of Israel from the Gaza strip since 2001. Most of them have injured relatively few people. The first known case of a multicasualty incident (MCI) caused by the landing of a single, improvised rocket is described.

METHODS:
The event is described according to the disastrous incidents systematic analysis through components, interactions and results methodology (DISAST-CIR).

RESULTS:
The rocket hit a military training tent camp in the south of Israel at 01:18 hours. At that time, all soldiers were in bed and were not using any protective gear. A total of 76 soldiers was injured (three severe, eight moderate and 65 mild). The most prevalent types of injuries were upper extremity (33%) and lower extremity (30%) trauma, tinnitus (30%) and acute stress reactions (32%). A total of 67 casualties was evacuated to the nearest level two hospital, Barzilai, in a two-phase distribution characterised by different patterns of injury severity and type. All urgent casualties arrived at hospitals within 1 h 24 minutes, whereas most stress casualties arrived in the later phase. Seven casualties were secondarily transported to level one trauma centres. 42 of the casualties were hospitalised and 17 needed urgent surgery. None has died.

CONCLUSIONS:
A single low-tech mortar with poor accuracy and small warhead (estimated weight of 10 kg only) can cause a large-scale MCI. As international terrorist organisations can easily gain access to improvised rockets, the latter may become a threat in many countries. Emergency systems should thus be prepared for that adverse possibility.
 

Dr Kynes

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UN res 194 After the war, Bernadotte was unanimously chosen to be the United Nations Security Council mediator in the Arab–Israeli conflict of 1947–1948. He was assassinated in Jerusalem in 1948 by the militant Zionist group Lehi while pursuing his official duties

How many other crimes have these monsters committed

How can americans support these gangster terrorists

assasins

the real terrorist criminals are Zionist jews
the real terrorists are assholes who copy/paste from wikipedia and pretend that it is the whole story.

what happened AFTER the assassination?

"The Israeli government subsequently cracked down on LEHI, arresting many of its members and confiscating their arms. LEHI disbanded, largely due to public condemnation."
~https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/folke.html

what happens to pallie assassins?
they become great heroes and are celebrated, assholes name their children after them and their families get a stipend from arab governments for life.

you make a big deal out of every stray bullet from the israeli side, and pretend putting bombs in retarded kids' backpacks or machinegunning a preschool, or assassinating a US presidential candidate is just the sort of things "Freedom Fighters" have to do.
 

earnest_voice

Well-Known Member
the real terrorists are assholes who copy/paste from wikipedia and pretend that it is the whole story.

what happened AFTER the assassination?

"The Israeli government subsequently cracked down on LEHI, arresting many of its members and confiscating their arms. LEHI disbanded, largely due to public condemnation."
~https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/folke.html

what happens to pallie assassins?
they become great heroes and are celebrated, assholes name their children after them and their families get a stipend from arab governments for life.

you make a big deal out of every stray bullet from the israeli side, and pretend putting bombs in retarded kids' backpacks or machinegunning a preschool, or assassinating a US presidential candidate is just the sort of things "Freedom Fighters" have to do.
So Palestinians machine gunned a school? Nope. Wrong country.

So Palestinians put bombs in retarded kids' backpacks? Nope. Wrong conflict.

So all Muslims are jihadists? Nope. Only in your backward, bigoted mind.
 

Harrekin

Well-Known Member
I think you have no idea of what this is. They are up to Kassam 4, 22 pound warhead.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19307399
Abstract
INTRODUCTION:
Over 2000 improvised rockets (called "Kassam" rockets) have been targeted at the south of Israel from the Gaza strip since 2001. Most of them have injured relatively few people. The first known case of a multicasualty incident (MCI) caused by the landing of a single, improvised rocket is described.

METHODS:
The event is described according to the disastrous incidents systematic analysis through components, interactions and results methodology (DISAST-CIR).

RESULTS:
The rocket hit a military training tent camp in the south of Israel at 01:18 hours. At that time, all soldiers were in bed and were not using any protective gear. A total of 76 soldiers was injured (three severe, eight moderate and 65 mild). The most prevalent types of injuries were upper extremity (33%) and lower extremity (30%) trauma, tinnitus (30%) and acute stress reactions (32%). A total of 67 casualties was evacuated to the nearest level two hospital, Barzilai, in a two-phase distribution characterised by different patterns of injury severity and type. All urgent casualties arrived at hospitals within 1 h 24 minutes, whereas most stress casualties arrived in the later phase. Seven casualties were secondarily transported to level one trauma centres. 42 of the casualties were hospitalised and 17 needed urgent surgery. None has died.

CONCLUSIONS:
A single low-tech mortar with poor accuracy and small warhead (estimated weight of 10 kg only) can cause a large-scale MCI. As international terrorist organisations can easily gain access to improvised rockets, the latter may become a threat in many countries. Emergency systems should thus be prepared for that adverse possibility.
Lol, 32% had "acute stress reactions"?

I didn't realise " Oh shit, what was that?! " was considered an injury.
 

Doer

Well-Known Member
So Palestinians machine gunned a school? Nope. Wrong country.

So Palestinians put bombs in retarded kids' backpacks? Nope. Wrong conflict.

So all Muslims are jihadists? Nope. Only in your backward, bigoted mind.
Ask any Muslim to reject Jihad. Go ahead, you phony.

I have. They will not.
 

Doer

Well-Known Member
You said Muslims, you idiot. You said all Muslims are not Jehadist.

I say they most certainly are. And I ask all Muslims when I get a chance, including here on RIU. I will ask you.

Do you reject Jihad?

Do you reject total world Islam and no other Religions allowed?

No Muslim can reject that for it is Blaspheme to do so.
 

NLXSK1

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All they want to do is peacefully convert you to Islam so that the whole world can be Islam and then they can just kill each other over the particular sect of Islam that they claim is the truth...

Of course if you dont peacefully convert you will be beheaded.

The religion of peace... LOL!!
 

ttystikk

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The AP reported today that it cost $1,000,000 to shoot down a drone that was flying over Israel yesterday with a Patriot missile supplied by the US. I think it should have stated that it cost the American taxpayer that sum. So far, in the confrontation between Israel and Hamas, there have been over 180 fatalities on the Palestinian side, plus thousands of wounded, and zero on the Israeli side, beside one wounded This is sure to increase, as it seems that a ground assault will be next. This major conflict is due to the response by Israel to the murder of 3 Israeli teenagers, supposedly by someone affiliated with Hamas. Rockets fired by Hamas in response, using the excuse of the arrest of over 500+ people, plus 5 deaths during the search for the missing teens, has only intensified the situation. I personally feel that the US should stop financing the death and destruction that seems to be a perpetual cycle in Israel and the occupied territories in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. It seems to me that our unequivocal support for Israel is a major cause of the ongoing carnage in that area, and if it was halted, or at least given under conditions, it might just make Israel think twice when confronted by the economic consequences of their actions. What do you think? Keep forking over the cash, no questions asked, or make Israel pay it's own way in their war against the mighty Palestinians.
We are only supporting Israel because of a fundamentalist Christian right wing faction that's deeply embedded in our nation's top .01% richest. They run this country, therefore they get to;

1. Spend our treasury at will on this any any other war

2. Disseminate propaganda through the bought and paid for 'national news media'

3. Sucker Americans from lesser economic strata to go be their cannon fodder

4. CONTINUE TO PROFIT FROM THE SITUATION, KNOWING BLOOD IS ON THEIR HANDS
 

Doer

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Right, as you say, it is a noose.

They were doing pretty good until we came along a few hundred years ago.

Now they try on us what has worked in the past.

Inner Jihad, with smoke and mirrors of Conquest.

Islam is not even a religion it is a Conquest.
 
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Doer

Well-Known Member
We are only supporting Israel because of a fundamentalist Christian right wing faction that's deeply embedded in our nation's top .01% richest. They run this country, therefore they get to;

1. Spend our treasury at will on this any any other war

2. Disseminate propaganda through the bought and paid for 'national news media'

3. Sucker Americans from lesser economic strata to go be their cannon fodder

4. CONTINUE TO PROFIT FROM THE SITUATION, KNOWING BLOOD IS ON THEIR HANDS
No, you just have success envy.

Shameful.
 

earnest_voice

Well-Known Member
You said Muslims, you idiot. You said all Muslims are not Jehadist.

I say they most certainly are. And I ask all Muslims when I get a chance, including here on RIU. I will ask you.

Do you reject Jihad?

Do you reject total world Islam and no other Religions allowed?

No Muslim can reject that for it is Blaspheme to do so.
I stand by what I said - every muslim is not a jihadist. Yep I reject jihad and abhor religious and political violence in all its forms.
I reject organised religion in general - just not my thing.

This is demonstrated by the fact ISIL has been on an killing spree, executing moderate sunni clerics all over the shop. Now if every muslim is a terrorist we wouldn't be seeing sunni on sunni violence, as according to you they would all be on the same page with jihad in their minds - coming after us the "infadels, jews and crusaders"

I get that muslims are a touchy issue over there, through no fault but your own, but the every muslim is a terrorist is getting tired and worn out. More than a decade since 9/11 and muslims haven't taken over America, nor any other western democracy and implemented the sharia law we see in muslim states.
 

Doer

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you are as dumb as dirt on this subject

We have been fighting this Jihad since Tomas Jefferson decided to buy a Navy instead of paying ransom for men and taken trading ships in the Med.
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
No, you just have success envy.

Shameful.
What is shameful is your ignorance of the subject.

There is a point past which it's not about how much value your activities add to the economy, but rather how much your activities influence the rest of the economy, and how.

I submit based on overwhelming economic evidence from academia, business, history and many other sources, that economic monarchism is as bad or worse than the old hereditary kind.

But then, maybe you like being poor and unsure if you can afford to give your children an education or a shot at the good life.

That's what they've taken- our prosperity. Then, with an amazing interlocking network of back doors and mutual favors, they deal themselves tax breaks the rest of us don't get, pass legislation to allow corporations to shower our political process with money- so only the rich can play... or get what they need from the process.

You can have that America; I'm not interested.
 
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