Mycorrhizae any others using it?

[TWS]

Yea i know a dwc grower that uses teas to get rid of root rot.

But to awnser your question, mychos does not help kill root rot. It acts as a infection in which helps the roots to be able to better intake npks, particularly phos.
Keep doing what your doing, but dont add mychos, its a waste of money and mychos.
You can however do a side by side and see for your self, one plant with mychos in the tea, the other with no mycho in the teas.

No, absolutely not !
Mychos does kill the root rot and all so eats away all the infected and dead roots ( living in the Rhizophere) until the root system is Clean and pure white, then they run out of food and die and eat each other until they are all gone ( no soil to sustain life ). There for you must replenish in DWC. There is nothing but all ready broken down synthetic nutrients in a DWC system , Mychos are not breaking down NPK in a system to feed the plant.

If I was to run one with and one with out , one wood have root slime and the other wouldn't. That is all.
There a several ways to keep a system clean

1 Bennies/Mychos ( I prefer ) teas , Great white , Pondzyme etc
2 Bleach
3 water tempature

 

[FLkeys1]

The canister of the product I am using list all the Endo and Ecto in it and it does list that is has Glomus Intraradices and Glomus Mosseae in it. I use to use the product that I would apply directly to the roots when planting my palms and tropical s in the ground. I have also used this product on them since I no longer have access to the roots in the ground. What makes you think that the spores in the water will not soak down into the soil and come in contact with roots?

 

[TWS]

And not discuss Hydro in the outdoor forum but to suggest that Root systems can be inoculated by granular or water soluable methods.

 

[foreverflyhi]

Sorry brotha thats false, maybe we are talking about other types of
Mychos...

Copy and paste (again)

"I should also mention in case it is not readily apparent that endomycorrhizal spores do not sprout and grow in compost tea, as a lot of people seem to believe.
Attached Files
Suppression Trichoderma harzianum by Glomus intraradices.

pdf 123.18KB 168 downloads
Interactions Trichoderma pseudokoningii & AM.pdf 91.24KB 123 downloads
TRICHODERMA SPECIES —OPPORTUNISTIC,AVIRULENT PLANT SYMBIONTS.pdf 972.23KB 141 downloads"

Shit edit: pdf not working ill work on it.

Edit: mychos doesnt survive in water and especially teas. Why? Because it gets dominated and or dies in contact of heavy water flow which then gets seperated from large spore colonies, which then doesnt have a chance to infect roots(assumingg the mychos hasnt been eatin by other bactaria microbes)

 

[TWS]

Yes but Im telling you this is not fact or debucked because it sure as hell works and is brewed or breed in a tea or and granularly as in great white or pondzyme ?

 

[TWS]

And there are folks who have used a microscope to see the colonies in their teas .

 

[TWS]

Sorry brotha thats false, maybe we are talking about other types of
Mychos...

Copy and paste (again)

"I should also mention in case it is not readily apparent that endomycorrhizal spores do not sprout and grow in compost tea, as a lot of people seem to believe.
Attached Files
Suppression Trichoderma harzianum by Glomus intraradices.

pdf 123.18KB 168 downloads
Interactions Trichoderma pseudokoningii & AM.pdf 91.24KB 123 downloads
TRICHODERMA SPECIES —OPPORTUNISTIC,AVIRULENT PLANT SYMBIONTS.pdf 972.23KB 141 downloads"

Shit edit: pdf not working ill work on it.

Edit: mychos doesnt survive in water and especially teas. Why? Because it gets dominated and or dies in contact of heavy water flow which then gets seperated from large spore colonies, which then doesnt have a chance to infect roots(assumingg the mychos hasnt been eatin by other bactaria microbes)

So once again, Please tell me why it works if this theory is true ?

I brewed a tea and poured it in and my root rot is now gone

A: it breed or was woken up by making the Tea
B : it was alive and did it's job because now the problem at hand is cured .
C : will work the same way when added to soil grows.

 

[foreverflyhi]

Yes but Im telling you this is not fact or debucked because it sure as hell works and is brewed or breed in a tea or and granularly as in great white or pondzyme ?

How is the tea made again? And with what ingredients? This i promise you is a different subject because im positive the mychos we speak of isnt the same as the mychos u said that kills root rot

 

[FLkeys1]

Taken from The New York Botanical Garden Website.. It does not say cures, it just says offers some protection.

Mycorrhizae are symbiotic relationships that form between fungi and plants. The fungi colonize the root system of a host plant, providing increased water and nutrient absorption capabilities while the plant provides the fungus with carbohydrates formed from photosynthesis. Mycorrhizae also offer the host plant increased protection against certain pathogens.

I think TWS is talking about something else.. not Mycorr. I am talking about.

 

[TWS]

aqua Shield
http://www.botanicare.com/AquaShield-002-004-001--P51.aspx

ZHO
http://www.botanicare.com/ZHO-Root-Inoculant-P81.aspx

Ancient forest earth worm castings

1 tsp molasses

1 gallon water

brewed for 48 hrs

 

[greasemonkeymann]

there is a BUNCH of information regarding this, as a sticky in fact.
All I got to say is a good healthy tea with LOTS of bugs in it, can help/cure MANY soil issues, kinda akin to how a proper diet and vitamin regimen can help keep away many ailments for people. Keeps the plant healthier. Happy soil= happy plant.

 

[foreverflyhi]

aqua Shield
http://www.botanicare.com/AquaShield-002-004-001--P51.aspx

ZHO
http://www.botanicare.com/ZHO-Root-Inoculant-P81.aspx

Ancient forest earth worm castings

1 tsp molasses

1 gallon water

brewed for 48 hrs

My theory is, the bactaria and or microbes attack the pathogens like root rot.
Not the mycho, mycho dies in the tea, it becomes food stock and gets eatin by microbes and bacatria.

And cool about the microscope, however i said look at the roots to see if it becomes infected by the mychos. Which it doesnt because it dies and or gets eatin. Keep doing the tea, but next time try with out mychos, i primise it will have the same results

 

[FLkeys1]

and as we all know a health plant has a better chance to fight off insects and all that bad stuff. Plus when plants are stressed they give off a signal for opportunistic insects and pathogens to come in.

 

[FLkeys1]

I do disagree that applying it as a soluble won't work. in a natural state how do you think it got down to the roots in the first place.. As it appears as a mush room on top of the soil it reproduces spores that fall back to the soil and they have to get down in to the root zone somehow.

 

[TWS]

My theory is, the bactaria and or microbes attack the pathogens like root rot.
Not the mycho, mycho dies in the tea, it becomes food stock and gets eatin by microbes and bacatria.

And cool about the microscope, however i said look at the roots to see if it becomes infected by the mychos. Which it doesnt because it dies and or gets eatin. Keep doing the tea, but next time try with out mychos, i primise it will have the same results

Thanks for the conversation.

 

[foreverflyhi]

I do disagree that applying it as a soluble won't work. in a natural state how do you think it got down to the roots in the first place.. As it appears as a mush room on top of the soil it reproduces spores that fall back to the soil and they have to get down in to the root zone somehow.

Another myth
Ok so endo mychroizzal does NOT produce fruit bodies. It stays alive and reproduces strickly by roots. Not all mycelium bares fruit, however most due, omce agian, not the endo which is the mycho we cannabis growers are looking for.

 

[gR33nDav3l0l]

got a bananna or a coconut ?

Gotta travel to the coast if you want to get the good ones

 

[FLkeys1]

Interesting, so only the Ectomycor. produces the above ground fruiting body.. Cool, learned something new today. Thank you..