Mycorrhizae any others using it?

[foreverflyhi]

I'm pretty sure that when I top dress Mycho, it comes in contact with the roots...
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Nice pic but mychos will die if exposed to sun for too long, mychos has to be in direct contact to roots in soil. It can take up to 6weeks for the spore to infect the roots, it would die almost instantly on your top soil.

 

[doublejj]

Nice pic but mychos will die if exposed to sun for too long, mychos has to be in direct contact to roots in soil. It can take up to 6weeks for the spore to infect the roots, it would die almost instantly on your top soil.

I top dress about every 2 weeks, rake it in, & water it in....I think it's working pretty good.

 

[TWS]

don't know about all that. Why does Heinsberg tea keep root rot away and clean and eat all the dead roots from it and is living in pure water for short period of time until it is re added in a DWC culture.

 

[gR33nDav3l0l]

Your right but you dont know if thats the mychos that host on too cannabis.
So ur wrong if you think ur adding mychos into your garden by doing so. Not saying its bad ir doesnt help, but that mycellium u speak of is not mychos for cannabis which this thread is about

I helps me to recycle the soil, so it does really help
I don't expect humongous fat trees because of this, I expect more life out of the soil I use.

 

[TWS]

That article has a lot of " in my opinion " ?

 

[foreverflyhi]

That article has a lot of " in my opinion " ?

Yes it does but if you look into the academic research (which is all cited) you will see why he says in my opinion.

Seems like people think im trying to attack their method.

Im only stating facts and debunking myths.
Top dress, water soluble, and globally added are all MYTHS which results in money loss and not the right way to inoculate mychos to the roots.
Has to be added directly to roots!

 

[foreverflyhi]

don't know about all that. Why does Heinsberg tea keep root rot away and clean and eat all the dead roots from it and is living in pure water for short period of time until it is re added in a DWC culture.

Im sure the tea does help! But the mychos that is "made" for water soluble hydroponics does not infect the roots. Cant argue with science!

 

[doublejj]

So, I'm supposed to dig the plant up every 2 weeks to expose the roots just to dust with more Mychro?......

 

[foreverflyhi]

So, I'm supposed to dig the plant up every 2 weeks to expose the roots just to dust with more Mychro?......

No i never said or stated anything like that.

The mychos need to be introduced to the roots during transplant. It takes up to 6 weeks for the mychos to actually infect the roots and to work its magic. Once mychos infected roots, then as long as your medium is healthy, you should b ok till harvest, no need to add more or topdress. =waste of money and product.

 

[TWS]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mycorrhiza

 

[TWS]

Im sure the tea does help! But the mychos that is "made" for water soluble hydroponics does not infect the roots. Cant argue with science!

If it doesn't then why does it work ? Not just help. Can't argue with facts ? So there for a water soulable transfer works.

I appreciate your input and don't take it as knocking one's methods, just think there's some holes here in your synopsis .
What I do believe is a myth that most in ground soil will have mycos and adding them to a indoor pot more than once is an over kill. you inoculate the soil once , they breed and eat each other by the millions and feed them so they don't run out of food or eat each other. And Tap water doesn't kill them as readily as believed.

 

[TWS]

Did you run this by the guy's in the organic section ?

 

[foreverflyhi]

If it doesn't then why does it work ? Not just help. Can't argue with facts ? So there for a water soulable transfer works.

I appreciate your input and don't take it as knocking one's methods, just think there's some holes here in your synopsis .
What I do believe is a myth that most in ground soil will have mycos and adding them to a indoor pot more than once is an over kill. you inoculate the soil once , they breed and eat each other by the millions and feed them so they don't run out of food or eat each other. And Tap water doesn't kill them as readily as believed.

Well brother, ask yourself this,
how do you know that the mychos is really attaching itself to your roots?
Only way of really knowing is by microscope. Sure ur plants can be healthy, im not disputing ur success, im disputing that mychos doesnt live in compost tea, and sure as hell doesnt infect any hydro growing cannabis roots.

(My question is only valid assuming you understand that i never said the tea doesnt help, i just said the mychos doesnt attach itself to roots in ANY hydroponic system, nor live in teas.)

 

[foreverflyhi]

Did you run this by the guy's in the organic section ?

Thats where i got all this information trust me i was wrong not too long ago,
I always knew about mychos, but i never knew that what i was previously doin was wrong. (I thought i had mychos in my compost and also mychos that i captured from nature, i was wrong) i had this mentality because im very anti hydroponics, and to me mychos is just another hydro gimmick, obviously im wrong, mychos must be added for a more healthy grow.
Im currently learning how to grow my own mychos and collect spores, also experimenting with bahia grass as a companion crop because it supose to release mychos through its roots.

 

[TWS]

Have you read this ?
https://www.rollitup.org/t/dwc-root-slime-cure-aka-how-to-breed-beneficial-microbes.361430/

I admit I don't understand enough about this or care to venture this deep into it,

I have had Root slime/rot up the ying yang and fought it many different ways with Failure until using the Tea.
If it does not breed in water or attach to the root system WHY does it Work and if they don't live in compost tea how the Hell did the system get inoculated and the root rot cured ? This goes along with all the other granular inoculates like great white etc .

So if this is the case it is defintley working in soil when added by water soluable means and most likely granular or top dressed and watered in. ?

 

[gR33nDav3l0l]

Thats where i got all this information trust me i was wrong not too long ago,
I always knew about mychos, but i never knew that what i was previously doin was wrong. (I thought i had mychos in my compost and also mychos that i captured from nature, i was wrong) i had this mentality because im very anti hydroponics, and to me mychos is just another hydro gimmick, obviously im wrong, mychos must be added for a more healthy grow.
Im currently learning how to grow my own mychos and collect spores, also experimenting with bahia grass as a companion crop because it supose to release mychos through its roots.

This happens naturally here in the tropic.

 

[TWS]

This happens naturally here in the tropic.

got a bananna or a coconut ?

 

[TWS]

Thats where i got all this information trust me i was wrong not too long ago,
I always knew about mychos, but i never knew that what i was previously doin was wrong. (I thought i had mychos in my compost and also mychos that i captured from nature, i was wrong) i had this mentality because im very anti hydroponics, and to me mychos is just another hydro gimmick, obviously im wrong, mychos must be added for a more healthy grow.
Im currently learning how to grow my own mychos and collect spores, also experimenting with bahia grass as a companion crop because it supose to release mychos through its roots.

Thats where i got all this information trust me i was wrong not too long ago,

and the general opinion was agreeable ?

 

[foreverflyhi]

Have you read this ?
https://www.rollitup.org/t/dwc-root-slime-cure-aka-how-to-breed-beneficial-microbes.361430/

I admit I don't understand enough about this or care to venture this deep into it,

I have had Root slime/rot up the ying yang and fought it many different ways with Failure until using the Tea.
If it does not breed in water or attach to the root system WHY does it Work and if they don't live in compost tea how the Hell did the system get inoculated and the root rot cured ? This goes along with all the other granular inoculates like great white etc .

So if this is the case it is defintley working in soil when added by water soluable means and most likely granular or top dressed and watered in. ?

Yea i know a dwc grower that uses teas to get rid of root rot.

But to awnser your question, mychos does not help kill root rot. It acts as a infection in which helps the roots to be able to better intake npks, particularly phos.
Keep doing what your doing, but dont add mychos, its a waste of money and mychos.
You can however do a side by side and see for your self, one plant with mychos in the tea, the other with no mycho in the teas.

 

[foreverflyhi]

Thats where i got all this information trust me i was wrong not too long ago,

and the general opinion was agreeable ?

Yes, however, General opinion is usually wrong, hyro industry "facts" have unfortunately seems to become dominate in cannabis growing. I always use the example of indeginous growers. For thousands of years they mastered agriculture, they didnt know scientifcly why, but it worked for a reason. The reasons where soon studied by academics and become science.
I can give many examples, my fav is the three sister by native aamericans, three sisters are corn, beans and squash. They grow in harmony togther, and thats because the corn grows tall, beans grow up corn stalk for trellis and squash grows as a cover crop. More scientifically, the beans provide nitrogen to the corn, the squash provides ground cover and erosion/bug control for the corn and beans, corns act as shade for the squash and also provides npks via roots, corn roots also help clean out contaminats in soil = tres hermanas