Mohican's 2014 Season

wheels619

wheels619

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Mohican said:
It was!
My outdoor girls are acting very weird this season. I asked OD about his crop and he said that the growers up in Oregon are seeing the same issues. The sunlight seems to be messed up this season. Flowering too early and reveging now.
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mine are having issues also. they flowered then revegged and now im starting to think they are flowering again. shit is messing up all over the place. wonder what the deal is this year compared to others.
 
Thundercat

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Something to do with the blood moon and planetary alignment last month maybe? I don't really follow all that stuff, but I know it recently happened. I heard something about mercury being in retrograde during the full moon. Just a thought however abstract.
 
beuffer420

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FresnoFarmer said:
Is that an indoor raised bed? If so, that is awesome.
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No, it's outside. it's just how I do my little hoop house...I just noticed all you Cali outdoor guys giving the plants tons of space to do their thing in, so I tried to replicate in my little greenhouse on a smaller scale to that. Smaller sized plants with more than enough space for roots to roam. Seems to work pretty good but really I'm a complete noob to outdoor growing situation, so I'm just playing it by ear really. One year I didn't like the individual pots because of heat in the greenhouse so it's much easier to keep the dirt cool in a larger area. Although if I had the space I would love to try the beds indoor.
 
FresnoFarmer

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@beuffer420 Oh. Still pretty cool for a little greenhouse haha. even if you put out 2 clones right now, one in the ground and one in a pot, the one in the ground will most likely out perform the one in the pot because the roots will stay cooler. The thing that sucks about pots is the sun bakes the roots from the side and top. in the ground/raised bed you can just mulch and the heat will have little effect, if any, on the plants performance.
 
beuffer420

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FresnoFarmer said:
@beuffer420 Oh. Still pretty cool for a little greenhouse haha. even if you put out 2 clones right now, one in the ground and one in a pot, the one in the ground will most likely out perform the one in the pot because the roots will stay cooler. The thing that sucks about pots is the sun bakes the roots from the side and top. in the ground/raised bed you can just mulch and the heat will have little effect, if any, on the plants performance.
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Thanks for the knowledge FresnoFarmer! I did notice that the year I did pots, always hot when I stuck a finger in the dirt with the containers, beds it's nice and cool down there where it's most needed. One thing I noticed about the outdoor is the plants stay healthier way easier than indoors. It's just the training thing I need to get down. Y'all be growing bush trees lol.
 
DonPetro

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beuffer420 said:
No, it's outside. it's just how I do my little hoop house...I just noticed all you Cali outdoor guys giving the plants tons of space to do their thing in, so I tried to replicate in my little greenhouse on a smaller scale to that. Smaller sized plants with more than enough space for roots to roam. Seems to work pretty good but really I'm a complete noob to outdoor growing situation, so I'm just playing it by ear really. One year I didn't like the individual pots because of heat in the greenhouse so it's much easier to keep the dirt cool in a larger area. Although if I had the space I would love to try the beds indoor.
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Whats the size of your little greenhouse? Looks great.
 
FresnoFarmer

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@beuffer420 Yeah, indoors it is much more difficult because you really have to mess with the grow room to get the environment just right....or at least decent to have healthy plants. Outdoors you just go with the flow and adjust accordingly. Can't control environment much, aside from a state of the art gh. Outdoors the plants can give 2 fucks about temps in the upper 90's. indoors it is a disaster if you have constant temps in the upper 90's. I think it has alot to do with airflow. I know in my greenhouse the plants do just fine as long as I keep an oscillating fan on. I have it blowing at the top/above the plants to push all the hot air built up at the top out of the gh. Training outdoors is kinda hectic when growing large plants haha. I like the mainlining idea. Train early on and then let it go the rest of the season. seems sensible
 
beuffer420

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FresnoFarmer said:
@beuffer420 Yeah, indoors it is much more difficult because you really have to mess with the grow room to get the environment just right....or at least decent to have healthy plants. Outdoors you just go with the flow and adjust accordingly. Can't control environment much, aside from a state of the art gh. Outdoors the plants can give 2 fucks about temps in the upper 90's. indoors it is a disaster if you have constant temps in the upper 90's. I think it has alot to do with airflow. I know in my greenhouse the plants do just fine as long as I keep an oscillating fan on. I have it blowing at the top/above the plants to push all the hot air built up at the top out of the gh. Training outdoors is kinda hectic when growing large plants haha. I like the mainlining idea. Train early on and then let it go the rest of the season. seems sensible
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That's exactly what I do, I have a huge fan that I angle toward the top of the house to circulate the hot air out. If I put it just right it gets hot air off the top and blows it out the door. I think I like the best about the hoop houses is when the night falls my little roof protects from all the dew ect of the night. Guess it gives me a sense of well being knowing that's not chilling on my plant all nite long. That could just be from always doing indoor though. The mainline looks legit outdoors for sure, I follow budologist420 on Instagram. He b gettin down with the mainlining!

@DonPetro it's like 12x10x8 I believe I'll shoot a pic in sec.
 
beuffer420

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Here's pic of whole house...it's just baby but still fun to play with:) I did a mix of fox farm some bag of pre amended organic soil baccto came out with (Freebee from work) and then mixed in some non amended baccto to cool it back down. The hydro store I'm employed at, we constantly put holes in bags so I take those at a real low price. Otherwise it would be a little costly literally just to play. Worked pretty good tho, hit with some microbes, some humic acid and sugars, been nothing but water ever since. I'll mix the other side that's still not planted later in the season. Wait and see what the helicopter do first lol. It'll be a late bloomer sectionimage.jpg
 
FresnoFarmer

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beuffer420 said:
That's exactly what I do, I have a huge fan that I angle toward the top of the house to circulate the hot air out. If I put it just right it gets hot air off the top and blows it out the door. I think I like the best about the hoop houses is when the night falls my little roof protects from all the dew ect of the night. Guess it gives me a sense of well being knowing that's not chilling on my plant all nite long. That could just be from always doing indoor though. The mainline looks legit outdoors for sure, I follow budologist420 on Instagram. He b gettin down with the mainlining!

@DonPetro it's like 12x10x8 I believe I'll shoot a pic in sec.
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Bigger than mine. MIne is a 10x10x8. I like it because it folds up. I can take it down and put it up real easy. It's just a converted pop-up canopy.

I like having the protection from strong wind, rain, bugs, and bird poop lol. Don't want to be smoking crappy buds.
Yeah. I haven't seen budologist420 around lately. He has grown some monsters through mainlining. He inspired me to try it. Maybe next year though. I don't have the veg time this year.
 
DonPetro

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beuffer420 said:
Here's pic of whole house...it's just baby but still fun to play with:) I did a mix of fox farm some bag of pre amended organic soil baccto came out with (Freebee from work) and then mixed in some non amended baccto to cool it back down. The hydro store I'm employed at, we constantly put holes in bags so I take those at a real low price. Otherwise it would be a little costly literally just to play. Worked pretty good tho, hit with some microbes, some humic acid and sugars, been nothing but water ever since. I'll mix the other side that's still not planted later in the season. Wait and see what the helicopter do first lol. It'll be a late bloomer sectionView attachment 3205321
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Thats pretty sweet man. I need one of those.
 
beuffer420

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yktind said:
I like the planter box. Any more pics? Of the sides and stuff. How deep are they? Plant looks super healthy and happy!
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I'll shoot pics and post them tomorrow, the beds 3-4 ft wide and run the length of the house. It's 12inches deep I believe. I lined the bottom with that root cloth stuff you buy at lowes, layer of some river rocks for drainage and covered the rocks with more cloth. Figured it would help with drainage. Only thing I'll do different when I make new beds is make them a tad bit deeper. When it's the end of the season I can literally peel all the dirt out from the root structure like pulling carpet up. Makes cleanup easy but makes me think I could use more root space.
 
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