pretty bad yellowing problem during start of flower, need advice

chuck estevez

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Synthetic fertilizers usually do not contain micronutrients and they do not support microbiological life in the soil. Because of their high concentration, they can easily be over-applied and can "burn" plant roots, or create toxic level of salts. When synthetic fertilizers release nutrients too quickly, they can create a great deal of top growth before the roots are able to balance the growth underground. This top-heavy growth often leads to weaker and disease prone plants, with less fruiting.

And because synthetic fertilizers dissolve easily and release nutrients faster than plants use them, they can leach into water tables, streams and lakes, causing water quality problems when not carefully controlled in the field.

In conclusion, Dirt becomes healthy soil only when you have these other components: Organic matter, Living Organisms, Moisture, and Nutrients for plants and microorganisms. To grow healthy plants, you need healthy soil!
I use synthetic ferts and my plants are green and healthy, so explain that? I should also mention that i don't over nute and I use peat moss, not soil.
also, none of this proves that organic grown tastes better. If I grew in soil,I probably would go organic, it's easier.
 

weedenhanced

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thanx for that, i thought feeding till end would be a coarse for the cholropyhll to stay in the leavse and bud etc??still im at about the point to do what u have said, gonn agiv it a try, usually veg seed for 5 week, then use canna vega throughy out veg n 1 week in bloow, switch to cana flores till about week 6, then pk13-14, 1-2 weeks- flush for week, generally depending on straing i pull 3-5.5 oz dry dence nugs. ill see if you way fairs any better, ad let pots dry out for couple days before harvest......... heres to trying..........
U got chop all leaves of thr plant except the little sugar leaves will speed up the dry process and stop chlorophyll production eliminating that leafy taste
 

Jbone77

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I use synthetic ferts and my plants are green and healthy, so explain that? I should also mention that i don't over nute and I use peat moss, not soil.
you fuckin with the kids chuck? You know you feed a complete synthetic nute that doesnt need to be broken down and dont need anything else, are they tryin to tell you differently or what? I havent read the thread, just saw your quote n post. You know you cant explain that whole botany thing n such here
 

chuck estevez

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you fuckin with the kids chuck? You know you feed a complete synthetic nute that doesnt need to be broken down and dont need anything else, are they tryin to tell you differently or what? I havent read the thread, just saw your quote n post. You know you cant explain that whole botany thing n such here
the old organic tastes better, gotta flush or it crackles Bs, just a normal sat afternoon with the newbies,lol
 

trutattoo13

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I use synthetic ferts and my plants are green and healthy, so explain that? I should also mention that i don't over nute and I use peat moss, not soil.
also, none of this proves that organic grown tastes better. If I grew in soil,I probably would go organic, it's easier.
I don't need to explain it, and either do you... Fact is how I put it is u learned to produce good bud with synthetics. Bit can u do it just as good going organic? u say it won't yeild as much but others have done it. Its like some ppl like to eat healthy and work out others prefer steroids.
So in conclusion u may be on steroids be big and buff but can u whip my ass lol
 

chuck estevez

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I don't need to explain it, and either do you... Fact is how I put it is u learned to produce good bud with synthetics. Bit can u do it just as good going organic? u say it won't yeild as much but others have done it. Its like some ppl like to eat healthy and work out others prefer steroids.
So in conclusion u may be on steroids be big and buff but can u whip my ass lol
I Never said it wouldn't yield as much( a little touchy on that subject maybe?), I only said the claims that organic tastes better is bs.
 

trutattoo13

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Well that's like getting ur food from whole foods and getting it from McDonalds yes McDonalds taste fuckin amazing but I can make a burger from things at whole foods that would make a vegetarian cream her panties: down side I spend about $20 to make that burger $5 at McDonald yet McDonalds gives me the shits like 5 min after
 

Jbone77

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Well that's like getting ur food from whole foods and getting it from McDonalds yes McDonalds taste fuckin amazing but I can make a burger from things at whole foods that would make a vegetarian cream her panties: down side I spend about $20 to make that burger $5 at McDonald yet McDonalds gives me the shits like 5 min after
so...Mcdonalds beef, whole food beef, and a vegetarian burger have what in common? Im lost on the analogy and how it applies to organics/synthetics? Organics are broken down to what? The plant absorbs what? Synthetics are what? Should get the same answer for all of em
 

trutattoo13

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But let's do a test.
Guys feel fee to send me an 1/8 of organic and an 1/8 of syntheticill taste test both and get back
so...Mcdonalds beef, whole food beef, and a vegetarian burger have what in common? Im lost on the analogy and how it applies to organics/synthetics? Organics are broken down to what? The plant absorbs what? Synthetics are what? Should get the same answer for all of em
That was based on the issue of which taste better which is what chuck stated the analogy was to say either way both will do the job and its only gonna be and always will be what works for the grower. Hinting to the fact that the name Calling and ur mamma jokes are remedial and the fact is u grow how u grow don't bag on others grow cuz its not how u do it
 

ayr0n

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On the contrary, time released soils are the WORST for newbies. Most newbies start reaching out for help after their time released soil starts causing them problems and they don't know WTF is going wrong
This is me a year ago in time released soil
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This is me now in organic soil
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'Nuff said :bigjoint:
You look really good in organic soil. Ever thought about modeling?


That's a big leap in one year. Little bit envious <
 

chuck estevez

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But let's do a test.
Guys feel fee to send me an 1/8 of organic and an 1/8 of syntheticill taste test both and get back

That was based on the issue of which taste better which is what chuck stated the analogy was to say either way both will do the job and its only gonna be and always will be what works for the grower. Hinting to the fact that the name Calling and ur mamma jokes are remedial and the fact is u grow how u grow don't bag on others grow cuz its not how u do it
I could send you some organic and tell you it's synthetic and you'd still be high!!
 

Jbone77

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But let's do a test.
Guys feel fee to send me an 1/8 of organic and an 1/8 of syntheticill taste test both and get back

That was based on the issue of which taste better which is what chuck stated the analogy was to say either way both will do the job and its only gonna be and always will be what works for the grower. Hinting to the fact that the name Calling and ur mamma jokes are remedial and the fact is u grow how u grow don't bag on others grow cuz its not how u do it
im catchin up backwards like, gimme a sec. Chuck may be a dick but hes funny as fuck, who gives a shit whos fuckin ur mom but basic botany is basic botany, plants dont absorb organics, organic growers feed the soil to feed the plant, synthetic growers skip. the middle man and feed the plant. If ppms are correct they absorb the exact same thing, flushing is bullshit and il be back shortly.
 

MD914

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You look really good in organic soil. Ever thought about modeling?


That's a big leap in one year. Little bit envious <
Thank you ;) I have a great teacher :) And I try to do the best I can :bigjoint:
I try to always upgrade ;)
 

chuck estevez

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im catchin up backwards like, gimme a sec. Chuck may be a dick but hes funny as fuck, who gives a shit whos fuckin ur mom but basic botany is basic botany, plants dont absorb organics, organic growers feed the soil to feed the plant, synthetic growers skip. the middle man and feed the plant. If ppms are correct they absorb the exact same thing, flushing is bullshit and il be back shortly.
 
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