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TonightYou

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Organic gardening intimidates me.

So scare of getting bugs and not being able to do shit about it. Or having a pickier strain that freaks out because of too much available nitrogen/whatever or not enough of something.

Pretty much anything I don't understand intimidates me. haha. Tis why I read alot.
Most bugs aren't bad to deal with to be honest. Gnats? Need oil or keep the soil from drying completely out. Spider mites? Annoying but again take measures to be eliminate them. Broad mites or some other regional cousin? Fuck! Go nuclear
 

OGEvilgenius

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A properly cooked soil has all available nutrients bound to humus waiting to be activated as the plant needs them (by the microherd which responds to exudates the plant releases from its roots - basically saying what it needs).

If you get high brix levels chances are you'll never need to use a pesticide or fungicide because your plants will never get sick.

I'm not an expert, but generally it's only the impatient who get burned by organics. If your soil isn't cooked you can get all kinds of problems but the microherd will still end up sorting them out - eventually.
 

st0wandgrow

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I suppose I will try it ONE DAY. Would have to do that break down on a 20gallon tote worth. divide it down to a manageable size.

Sure as shit aint doing it in the garage. Would have to be stuff safe to mix up in the basement. (no batshit)

We can barter. You teach my wife how to give a solid BJ, and I'll show you how to make a kick-ass soil. Deal?

^^j/k^^. :eyesmoke:

You have a green thumb, so Im confident that you would pick it up in a hurry
 

TonightYou

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You people be cracking me up this evening... I must have a damn 11 week white lotus on my hands. Snow lotus must have taken over on the one girl. I keep waiting for her to finish and she keeps stacking calyxs with fresh pistils at the tops. Other one still more pine cone looking. Fucking have just enough for me until chop, perhaps after the weekend? Then it's like back to back
 

Amos Otis

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Most bugs aren't bad to deal with to be honest.
Bugs are the #1 reason I stay w/ dwc. Like fleas on my dogs, preventive measures are a must. No pests allowed, human or non-human.

I must have a damn 11 week white lotus on my hands. Snow lotus must have taken over on the one girl. I keep waiting for her to finish and she keeps stacking calyxs with fresh pistils at the tops.
My current SSDDs look to be early finishers, and one BO looks like it will be ready at 9 weeks [ one already chopped @ 8 weeks ]. But the third BO is exactly as you describe your snow lotus - every day getting fatter and popping more pistils; no end in sight. It's likely going to be chopped early with the others - the veg tents are packed and these need to move along. I hate to invest 15 weeks on the one and not let it finish completely, but that's the breaks.
 

OGEvilgenius

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Really equitorial plants seem to never want to stop throwing pistils in my experience. You can let them go a very long time. I had a NLxHaze phenotype that went 16 weeks, was still pushing tonnes of pistils but I had to chop it because I had to relocate to my OD location. I bet it would have gone 20. Only some milky trichromes by that point, mostly clear. It didn't unfortunately get the proper time it deserved but it was still pretty decent smoke. Not overly strong but it might have been had I let it finish. Like a cup of coffee in the morning.
 

Mad Hamish

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Really equitorial plants seem to never want to stop throwing pistils in my experience. You can let them go a very long time. I had a NLxHaze phenotype that went 16 weeks, was still pushing tonnes of pistils but I had to chop it because I had to relocate to my OD location. I bet it would have gone 20. Only some milky trichromes by that point, mostly clear. It didn't unfortunately get the proper time it deserved but it was still pretty decent smoke. Not overly strong but it might have been had I let it finish. Like a cup of coffee in the morning.
So many people ignore latitude... True equatorial types have no change in photo period in nature. No seasons. If you grow an Indy in the tropics it goes straight to flower.
 

Mad Hamish

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I suppose I will try it ONE DAY. Would have to do that break down on a 20gallon tote worth. divide it down to a manageable size.

Sure as shit aint doing it in the garage. Would have to be stuff safe to mix up in the basement. (no batshit)
I felt the same. After StOw and Gandalf and the rest of the circle babied me through my first soil runs there is no looking back. I almost burned my flow tables and pissed in the ashes.
Focus on structure and forget amendments at first, teas can take you through a mild soil, but nothing can save a collapsed soil structure refusing to let water in... One third each peat, aeration, compost, has not let me down yet. Going for the 4th run in the same soil and it keeps getting better.
Amendments are a lot to learn about, but if you ask about them one by one then it gets easy after a while.
And you don't need guano, you can raise plants poop free and vegan if you want.
 

OGEvilgenius

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It's just a lot easier to get tremendous results consistently. Plus it's nice turning your what would otherwise be trash into beautiful beautiful cannabis.
 

Mad Hamish

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It's just a lot easier to get tremendous results consistently. Plus it's nice turning your what would otherwise be trash into beautiful beautiful cannabis.
This is true. My crops have been consistent, with that one step better each time. Still not quite challenging hydro for pure yield, but I think my no-till experiment might just be the answer to that. The stems on the girls in the no-till pots... Holy gawds. Might be a case of moderate to severe overgrow on this first go, considering a spare tent seeing as I have some old mag ballasts around. These things are gonna be BEASTS.
 

Mr.Head

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The only time I have had over feeding issues was when I tried to bottom feed(just pure water) my plants in fabric pots. The leaves started to curl from excessive N. I am wondering if maybe the bottom feeding brought too much N up from the bottom of the pot for the young plants to handle. Seemed odd they were fine until I started pouring water into the trays instead of through the top.

They were small plants and I am sure they would have recovered, they weren't burnt at all just curled quite bad. I regrettably had to chop them, they were biker Kush I will be running them again. With a slightly different soil mix so we'll see.
 

Mad Hamish

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The only time I have had over feeding issues was when I tried to bottom feed(just pure water) my plants in fabric pots. The leaves started to curl from excessive N. I am wondering if maybe the bottom feeding brought too much N up from the bottom of the pot for the young plants to handle. Seemed odd they were fine until I started pouring water into the trays instead of through the top.

They were small plants and I am sure they would have recovered, they weren't burnt at all just curled quite bad. I regrettably had to chop them, they were biker Kush I will be running them again. With a slightly different soil mix so we'll see.
If roots were rotting at the bottom it could end up looking a lot like nute burn...
 

Mr.Head

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If roots were rotting at the bottom it could end up looking a lot like nute burn...
They weren't sitting in water. I was watering them quiet lightly to be sure of that, then again I never did take a look at the roots before I threw the dirt in my flower beds.
 

genuity

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Genuity has me looking at new planters :) Thinking of ordering some. Seems like it was meant to be, they just started shipping to Canada :)
you can make buckets your self,but the planters are gold

i do wish they was a lil bigger,but 2 of them fit a 3x3 perfect.
 

Mr.Head

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you can make buckets your self,but the planters are gold

i do wish they was a lil bigger,but 2 of them fit a 3x3 perfect.
I hate ordering stuff that has a shipping charge as much as the item is though. Really irks me. 2 junior planters has a $45 shipping charge. I could probably build them for that maybe I'll try, they have a nice skimatic on their for me to follow :)

Lookin at these Kindnug
http://earthbox.com/

It actually seems like they have something quite similar by description at least at my local hardware store headed there this evening. I'll check them out.
 
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Mr.Head

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you could do this one..
I got a couple of buckets I was going to toss, I have them all taped up for DWC and holes in them already, I have net cups and every. net cup is 6 inch but w/e good enough to try. I'll put one of my Grape Stompers in it and see how it does compared to my normal pots.

if you could even get real crazy and throw an air pump in the bottom. So no worries about the water going anaerobic.
 

TonightYou

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I may have to make that call just so it doesn't interfere with other harvests. If I keep her going, she is going to be a dready beast, all rasta like dreads. Not that I pay no mind if it's a quality smoke, but eventually even the Goji who seems to take her sweet time is done by 11 weeks. After digging it looks like she's been in there for just about that now. Hopefully second run will be quicker but her sister will most likely be the keeper is if it keeps up its nice pine cone structure.
 
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