Electrical setup

[Marlo95]

Find an electrician and tell him you want to add 2 new 220v circuits into your room. DO NOT try to install anything yourself, at best, you will burn your house down, at worst you will electricute yourself and then burn your house down. There is a reason it takes electricians years to get qualified. It's not simple.

You see I want to do that but I don't want a stranger in my grow room for obvious reasons

 

[Squidbilly]

yea, just tell an electrician you want two 220v circuits, then call the police and tell them about your grow.

 

[miccyj]

i did't say 10mm i said 10mm2 (Square Millimeters) its the European measurement i don't know the us measurements i saw your electrical grow room setup excellent like a painting...in us with 110v central circuit breaker is huge!!!!in my place the biggest circuit breaker for houses is 3*100 max (for huge house )that's why is better to use 220v output smaller fuses wires and it's more secure..
i imagine a sort circuit at 180 amps huge blast

My 180amp is 415v

 

[miccyj]

You see I want to do that but I don't want a stranger in my grow room for obvious reasons

If you really want the extra power, I'd pack away all the gear and get it done right.

yea, just tell an electrician you want two 220v circuits, then call the police and tell them about your grow.

I don't know about the U.S. but here, no sparky is going to care what you may or may not be using power for if there is nothing in the room to make them suspicious, it could be for anything, maybe a workshop in the house, a pottery room with a kiln, an IT computer lab, lots of things.

 

[Squidbilly]

If you really want the extra power, I'd pack away all the gear and get it done right.

I don't know about the U.S. but here, no sparky is going to care what you may or may not be using power for if there is nothing in the room to make them suspicious, it could be for anything, maybe a workshop in the house, a pottery room with a kiln, an IT computer lab, lots of things.

No, trust me- if you tell an electrician you want multiple 220v he is going to know your up to no good and if he's a good electrician he won't do it. They aren't allowed to do it for lights(residential) and in all my years of construction i've never seen anyone need 220s other than for large appliances. It's just something that either gets replaced, or is installed when the house is built. In the US any electrician is going to know exactly why you want 'multiple' 220s in some random room of your house. If he's a dick, he might black mail you or just notify LE.

 

[miccyj]

No, trust me- if you tell an electrician you want multiple 220v he is going to know your up to no good and if he's a good electrician he won't do it. They aren't allowed to do it for lights(residential) and in all my years of construction i've never seen anyone need 220s other than for large appliances. It's just something that either gets replaced, or is installed when the house is built. In the US any electrician is going to know exactly why you want 'multiple' 220s in some random room of your house. If he's a dick, he might black mail you or just notify LE.

Hmm, that sucks, I guess it's easier here with 240v standard everywhere. I had a second circuit added my home office for a computer testing lab, electrician didn't even ask what it was for, just where I wanted the PowerPoint. So are all appliances in the US 110/220v switchable voltage or do you have to be careful about what you plug in where?

 

[Squidbilly]

Hmm, that sucks, I guess it's easier here with 240v standard everywhere. I had a second circuit added my home office for a computer testing lab, electrician didn't even ask what it was for, just where I wanted the PowerPoint. So are all appliances in the US 110/220v switchable voltage or do you have to be careful about what you plug in where?

Very few appliances are even 220- usually just electric powered dryers and stoves. To have a 220 in a room without water hookups for your washer/dryer OR outside the kitchen is very unusual.

 

[TubePot]

My 2 window AC's are 220, so is my water heater.

 

[Squidbilly]

I forgot window a/c , but even that isn't so common anymore, and they are always by a window.

There's a big difference asking for one 220 in a location where a 220 is common, it's another thing to ask for multiple 220s in the same room.

 

[akaki]

My 180amp is 415v

wowww seek power!!!!here we use them only for industrial purpose

 

[Marlo95]

Can you guys also take this time out to follow me. I'll follow all of you back as well. Thanks

 

[SnapsProvolone]

Don't know if anyone cares, but technically, 240V lighting in homes and garages is prohibited under the National Electrical Code. All residential lighting is supposed to be 120V, period. If you're in a warehouse or industrial building, no worries.

This could be true in most circumstances if hardwired, however the lighting in question has a plug and requires a receptacle.

 

[CaliWorthington]

This could be true in most circumstances if hardwired, however the lighting in question has a plug and requires a receptacle.

Now that I think of it, I got that information on some garage handyman forum, and they were talking about putting in shop lights, probably hardwired. There never was any mention of a plug. My bad.

 

[jijiandfarmgang]

did i tell something wrong?can tell me pls?

yes with 220v you can use smaller electrical fuses rather 110v so its safer for your electrical panel and for your self too...

I'm no where near an electrician, but I wouldn't flat out say that 220v is safer.

- Jiji

 

[akaki]

I'm no where near an electrician, but I wouldn't flat out say that 220v is safer.

- Jiji

maybe 110v is more secure for humans but 110v can cause bigger disaster in a sort circuit because of the bigger current that comes through your circuits

 

[SnapsProvolone]

Just stop it folks. In laymans terms BOTH voltages are dangerous.

Voltage overcomes resistance, note conductor insulation is rated by the voltage it should resist. 600v is common.

Amperage causes the electrons to flow, a few millamps can stop your heart in the right circumstances. Enough amps and you have more "friction" from pushing the voltage harder thus causing heat. This is why current in amps is what melts conductors. I could go into detail but it would just start arguments. Think of amperage as water pressure and voltage as the water.

Current measured in amps kills BUT potential voltage must overcome the impedance to flow or resistance. Many are lulled into thinking 120v or 240v is safe simply because of the resistance presented by their shoes and surface their standing on. In reality if you took the same energy while well grounded, say barefoot in a puddle or a tub of water, well the outcome is much worse.

You take high voltage whenever you get a static discharge after walking on carpet and touch a ground, its very low current, thus one can hold and energize fluorescent tube while touching a van degraff generator.

 

[SnapsProvolone]

I always like to say it's kilojoules that kill.

The higher voltages are inherently more dangerous as they will overcome a higher impedance. Shoes, air, flesh, and such....

 

[miccyj]

Just stop it folks. In laymans terms BOTH voltages are dangerous.

Voltage overcomes resistance, note conductor insulation is rated by the voltage it should resist. 600v is common.

Amperage causes the electrons to flow, a few millamps can stop your heart in the right circumstances. Enough amps and you have more "friction" from pushing the voltage harder thus causing heat. This is why current in amps is what melts conductors. I could go into detail but it would just start arguments. Think of amperage as water pressure and voltage as the water.

Current measured in amps kills BUT potential voltage must overcome the impedance to flow or resistance. Many are lulled into thinking 120v or 240v is safe simply because of the resistance presented by their shoes and surface their standing on. In reality if you took the same energy while well grounded, say barefoot in a puddle or a tub of water, well the outcome is much worse.

You take high voltage whenever you get a static discharge after walking on carpet and touch a ground, its very low current, thus one can hold and energize fluorescent tube while touching a van degraff generator.

And this is why cops can hit you with 60000v from a stun gun and it probably won't kill you. Low amps

 

[akaki]

i 'm working us electrician 15 years now....and for sure any voltage can harm you.we make a test (not to humans of course!!!) and we find out that any voltage from 80v and over can harm you deadly... More electrician when they work to a electrical panel they working with one hand...the other touch the wall...

 

[bigsparky69]

Ok dude it's simple.. run to lowes grab a 20a breaker that fits your panel. Get some 12/2 romex as well. Split up your lighting load and run a clean circuit to the 600w lights.

1200w /120v = 10Amps
So you will be fine