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email468

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Open Sesame (from Fox Farm) is only used for one week according to the Fox Farm feeding schedule. I think Cha-Ching is the supplement used the most.
 

MrsMcGreggor

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now I am confused the cha-ching is 9-50-10
the open sesame is 5-45-19
an the MG is 24-8-16
so the problem that could arrise would be the K?
to much K?
I could tell from from the leafs an way to much reading they were getting hungary for more p and k
and thats as much as I was able to figure out.
they were not sick by any means or not happy just not I don't even know how to say
it they just seemed to say IM HUNGARY.
now there is a beastie bloom that is 0-50-30
so I was trying to aim for the middle of the road...
 
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email468

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now I am confused the cha-ching is 9-50-10
the open sesame is 5-45-19
an the MG is 24-8-16
so the problem that could arrise would be the K?
to much K?
I could tell from from the leafs an way to much reading they were getting hungary for more p and k
and thats as much as I was able to figure out.
they were not sick by any means or not happy just not I don't even know how to say
it they just seemed to say IM HUNGARY.
now there is a beastie bloom that is 0-50-30
so I was trying to aim for the middle of the road...
i figure it is a ploy so people like me buy all their products.
 

bfq

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hope you dont mind, but i would like to make a side trip hijack of your thread because i want your opinion on this....

organics.

to me, organics are far more trouble than they are worth. it is fairly obvious that you disagree.

what makes organics a better solution in your mind as opposed to a simple and stable chemical nutrient mix?

i ask with an open mind and am willing to be convinced i am wrong.... i have recently changed my opinion on soil vs aeroponics so i am convertable in my opinions ;)
 

email468

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hope you dont mind, but i would like to make a side trip hijack of your thread because i want your opinion on this....

organics.

to me, organics are far more trouble than they are worth. it is fairly obvious that you disagree.

what makes organics a better solution in your mind as opposed to a simple and stable chemical nutrient mix?

i ask with an open mind and am willing to be convinced i am wrong.... i have recently changed my opinion on soil vs aeroponics so i am convertable in my opinions ;)
The first thing you have to do is choose which definition of "organic" you're going with and go from there....
 

MrsMcGreggor

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hope you dont mind, but i would like to make a side trip hijack of your thread because i want your opinion on this....

organics.

to me, organics are far more trouble than they are worth. it is fairly obvious that you disagree.

what makes organics a better solution in your mind as opposed to a simple and stable chemical nutrient mix?

i ask with an open mind and am willing to be convinced i am wrong.... i have recently changed my opinion on soil vs aeroponics so i am convertable in my opinions ;)
okdoky... this is a tuff one to answer....
I live in the middle of NO where...
Just spent $$ on 2 fans, ducting, 2x4's drywall, nails screws timer, temp gage. do I really have to spell out all the stuff thats costs $$$ so much. MrMcGreggor will skin both da bunny AND MrsMcGreggor alive.
needless to mention pots perlite, 2 banks of flows... ectectect.,..
SO ..... after putting MY husban into debt with all that. gulp figured best to dig around and get a bit creative.... I read about molasses... yep got that in the can closet. I like bananas.... and ok I can share them.... as well I read that bananas are high in potassium. and I knew this would be a LONGGGGGG grow so that gives that time to kick in. as well supposto give off a happy gas that plants like. {what ever} But I still like to eat bananas! and I figured could make for a smoother finished taste, The egg white makes a crisp surface to the soil. so its more like a green house effect under or compost effect. apple juice cuz of THC and have 13 apple trees an make apple juice from scratch. miracle grow cuz thats What I use in the garden. ph with coffee cuz thats what MY grandpa did. and WE drink coffee. AND AM JUST TICKLED PINK with open sesame cuz its the first fancy store bought plant food I have ever had. was a happy over night noticable improvement. knew they wanted more p and more k. just don't over do it. so foolishly figured If a comparison the 3 numbers along several lines of the fancy foods. and guessed an by goshed my way threw it listening to the basic needs of the plant. just might get away with out spending another 100bucks or more an more an more an more. So I could get the sprinklers for the 30 grape vines That were Planted this spring. No thats not organtic......
thats a woman trying to not end her marriage Cuz She really likes her husband.
someday ... someday I wanna splash in da water to.
but da babys are happy! and its a LOT of fun to tinker an figure out.
 

bfq

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ok, so for you, organics arent a matter of choice so much as convenience... like my building a CFL grow because i had 20 CFL bulbs laying around and no HPS. (i actually started this grow room for a total investment of $0).

funny how we are both in the same boat of not wanting to sticker shock our spouses over our botanical habits and coming up with such diametrically opposed solutions :)

thanks for your answer :D
 

MrsMcGreggor

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hey wait huh? Im here now:)
after reading all 29 of your posts.. I have to admitt you seem like a rather
informed feller. RIU is fortunut to have you join there community.
welcome.....
will be looking forward to learning more from you in the future.:mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:
and thank you for visiting my little garden.
 

MrsMcGreggor

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N= Nitrogen:
This is by far the most important element that a plant needs.
it promotes rapid shoot growth and gives plants a healthy color.
Nitrogen is the mineral most often in short supply. Growing plants need
a plentiful an continual supply of water. Remember Water washes away or
flushes Nitrogen.
With out sufficient Nitrogen, growth stops, and plants become pale and yellowish.
BUT... if you use to much Nitrogen YOU WILL burn da crap out of your plant.
and end up with decrease development or a stunted stressed out baby.

P=Phosphorus:
This Nutrient is less important. BUT is ESSENTIAL for healthy growth of plants
it stimulates the early formation and strong growth of roots. it is NOT readily
flushed from the soil by waterering and is needed to establish plants in smaller
quantity. BUT when they go to flower stage thats Why they cry out IM Hungary.
you need to compensate for the power the plant is using to make buds. and this is best achieved by going right to the root of the problem. so Up da P.

K=Potassiun
Next To Nitrogen potassium is second in importance and Like Nitrogen it is Flushed out By water. but at a slower rate. it strengthens plants. and enables them to
with stand stress and resist diseases. making for a happier healthy plant.
here again this is why when a plant go's to flower it gets hungary for potassium.
NO one likes changes... and plants just like people get to stressing when ever changes happen. sooooooooo Up da K. relieve da stress. and your plant won't get sick. Just don't go crazy... an this is why I figured bananas would be fun cuz da
bunny likes to play in da cannabis patch. as well as construction. and learning how the room all works in conjunction with air heat light.. and the occasional woops...
soooooooo I remembered back to da old days when the fellers talked about da ol mellow yellow... they were talking about bananas mellowing out cannabis.
an it supposto mellow out da taste to.

now time will tell just how off da bunny is in its thinking.
But until we can have better research and development to a greater understanding of this specific plant and its fundamental needs. we kind of have to guess an by gosh
our way. and never be to hard on anyone who is willing to try. then learn from there
success and failures. with a hardy thanks for there attempts. even if they seem silly.
 

MrsMcGreggor

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Made A Garden Fresh Chicken Salad,
To Go with Bread N Wine.
It's A Picnic Lunch Cuz. Tomorrows BLACKBERRY PICKING DAY!!!
From Da Garden Theres.
Dill, Celery, Onions, Chives, Yellow Pepper,
Then From Da Pantry.
Homemade B&B pickles, Homemade Watermellon Pickles,
Home made Horshraddish, Homemade Hot Peppers,
And From Da Field.
Peas

Any One wanna Go Blackberry Picking???
 

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mountianstar

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after reading all 29 of your posts.. I have to admitt you seem like a rather
informed feller. RIU is fortunut to have you join there community.
welcome.....
will be looking forward to learning more from you in the future.:mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:
and thank you for visiting my little garden.
Well thank you. Im not so sure riu is so happy about having some of his users around. The community of rollit up may be happy to have me here though.:) Let me know if theres anything I can help ya with and it was a pleasure to stop by mrs.McGreggor.

Made A Garden Fresh Chicken Salad,
To Go with Bread N Wine.
It's A Picnic Lunch Cuz. Tomorrows BLACKBERRY PICKING DAY!!!
From Da Garden Theres.
Dill, Celery, Onions, Chives, Yellow Pepper,
Then From Da Pantry.
Homemade B&B pickles, Homemade Watermellon Pickles,
Home made Horshraddish, Homemade Hot Peppers,
And From Da Field.
Peas

Any One wanna Go Blackberry Picking???
Sure! I took pictures of my bushes (really natures bushes I suppose) last time I went(im attaching them). Your salad sure does sound delishious. The only thing I would add would be some grapes from my grapevine.

By the way would you happen to know anything about taking care of grapevines? Mine isnt doing the best in the world. Last year it had nothing to hold it up so it didnt grow that well (it started wild in my yard and I decided to just leave it alone and not kill it or help it)
This year I staked it up the best I could and it grew almost 15 feet already since the beginning of spring (I dump all my extra nute water on it after i water the plants:)) It is still hangign close to the ground but it isnt supported well so I need to find out how tall they should be off the ground in order to produce well. its doign better than last year but not as well as it should be i dont think.
if I can get it producing better then Im going to do that trick you were telling me about...
I may try to find some way to start a few cuttings from it.
 

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