Perpetual Grow - DWC/Waterfarm 432wT5 Veg, 600w HPS Flower

duudical

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still one of the funnest grows to watch duuuudde. that sourD is looking so dank man! so the LED's really put off no heat, or at least way less than T5's?
Thanks man!

Both of them have fans that exhaust any heat created by the electronics upwards. When you put your hand over them the air is actually cool compared to the ambient temperature so it doesn't seem to be adding anything to my tent . Underneath there is so little heat a plant could easily rest against the glass or directly on an LED and it wouldn't hurt it from heat. You wouldn't want them that close to an LED due to the nature of the lenses - it can cause bleaching on buds that get too close in some strains - but if one of my plants came near my 600w HPS it would be crispy fried in an hour, ha ha.

What I am really anxious to see is the density of the buds under the Mars II. This is the one area that I have a difference in growing with LEDs (shitty LEDs though) and HPS. So far, the plants are flowering no differently than clones of the strains flowered under the HPS. If anything, the Bubba Kush seems to be flowering more quickly. The resin I know will be better. I have never had a plant get as sticky as one under an LED (or at least with LED supplemental lighting). But the density with where I am hoping it will come at least close. If it is way less, then I will have to think about what I want to do, but if they get close I will be very happy. Without that HPS my temps would be so much more manageable. I could easily close this tent up with a few of the Mars II's in there no problem - if I do that with my HPS in there it is 100F in an hour or so.
 

eastcoastmo

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Damn bro, you got some seriously fat buds there, that Sour D looks amazing :-D

I'm interested to see how you go yield wise too hey, seen some good results with the mars 2 so hoping you get the same too :)
 

youknowthekid!

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Thanks man!

Both of them have fans that exhaust any heat created by the electronics upwards. When you put your hand over them the air is actually cool compared to the ambient temperature so it doesn't seem to be adding anything to my tent . Underneath there is so little heat a plant could easily rest against the glass or directly on an LED and it wouldn't hurt it from heat. You wouldn't want them that close to an LED due to the nature of the lenses - it can cause bleaching on buds that get too close in some strains - but if one of my plants came near my 600w HPS it would be crispy fried in an hour, ha ha.

What I am really anxious to see is the density of the buds under the Mars II. This is the one area that I have a difference in growing with LEDs (shitty LEDs though) and HPS. So far, the plants are flowering no differently than clones of the strains flowered under the HPS. If anything, the Bubba Kush seems to be flowering more quickly. The resin I know will be better. I have never had a plant get as sticky as one under an LED (or at least with LED supplemental lighting). But the density with where I am hoping it will come at least close. If it is way less, then I will have to think about what I want to do, but if they get close I will be very happy. Without that HPS my temps would be so much more manageable. I could easily close this tent up with a few of the Mars II's in there no problem - if I do that with my HPS in there it is 100F in an hour or so.
Hell ya, that lack of infrared has me pumped. Not to mention you can let the ambient temp up to about 85 with LEDs, or so folks say. I damn well hope you get at least 2/3 the yield because then it's absolutely worth it. I think a lot of so-so grows think an LED may be the missing link, but when people like you who're already seeing success implement one then the results are a lot better.
 

duudical

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I really like how the Sage n Sour is progressing. Really intense stretch on her so far.

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And then of course my fave SourD is continuing to bulk up....she is at exactly 9 weeks today so I am going to plan on next Tuesday and see what she looks like as she approaches. I started her on a flush (water + 10ml/gal of H16 Finish) and that's all she will get from here on out. She stinks so fantastically.

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Bubbling bucket of compost tea...this stuff saved my life when it comes to running hydro. I have seen some great results using coolers as the res for the DWC so I might give that a whirl. My water temps get up there but the compost tea seems to keep things healthy and slime free. I have seen some spots of slime trying to take hold on a couple of plants - interestingly this is the first time I have seen it in months and it started after I had run out of the Z7 water conditioner and hadn't replaced it. I am going to make sure to get some and see if it was an essential part of the regimen as well. This is Compost Tea in a Box from Progress Earth with a little OregenismXL (more myc. + beneficials). Stuff is easy to make and works so well.

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duudical

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The Mars II definitely has nice light penetration compared to other LED's I have flowered with. And the plants definitely started budding a little faster than I noticed under the HPS - speaking of the Bubba Kush anyway as this is the first SnS I have flowered. You can definitely see the difference in the sativa vs indica genetics between the Bubba Kush and the SNS.

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duudical

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Those SourD nugs are rock hard!. We took down the little mother plant last night and even though her buds were much, much smaller, they were really nice and dense so we were thankful for her because of that and because she gave us two great clones that are turning out so awesome. The sister clone to this one is blossoming out nicely, looking lot like her sister in the water farm. She won't get anywhere as big just becuase she isn't getting continually fed, but she is white with trichomes and nice and stinky.
 

duudical

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Some shots of the other SourD clone. This one is in coco/hydrostone mix. She looks so great. Really sticky. Pretty much identical to her sister developmentally. She won't get as big of colas, but they will be pretty close and they are already sticky as fuck.

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duudical

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Sour Diesel all finished off - going to trim her tonight with my sons. She turned out stellar:

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The main colas range from 8-12" and then there is just a ton of rock hard nugs all over the branches. This has been a wonderful plant to grow and her sister clone is looking just as awesome. I would say I definitely recommend trying Reserva Privada Sour Diesel if you are in the market for a new strain to grow.
 

duudical

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Put this lovely Purple Haze (G13) into flower today. She is not as large as I would like, but I have two clones of her rooting and I am curious so I will grow those clones out big if she is good :)

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duudical

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The Green Crack responded beautifully to the training and pruning and is a nice looking bush now. She has proven to always be a thick and vigorous grower so I am expecting good results out of her.

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