Rick Simpson Oil: Carcinogenic?

[gb123]

Decarboxylation dude man.
Here's a little science for yas ..

. Read up. Important stuff!

http://skunkpharmresearch.com/decarboxylation/

 

[gb123]

If you mean that it is not pure when it comes to smoking?....that would be correct.
When it comes to dying and worrying about something that maybe a little impure/trace amounts of ISO or Naphtha ? I got news for yas eh
Truth be known, you get more shit (trace solvents)off of a public table from cleaning solutions that you would from making oil for yourself, with any solvent, no matter what it was.


This shit made right is the cats ass my friend. A god send,,,,and no...I don't believe in god lol

Now making something to burn...well...we stopped making oil as kids because we never thought we could ever get it clean enough to smoke. We burned hash 24/7 .365 but thought oil was bad for us.....hahahahahaah naïve and young ....

 

[Ivone]

Ok guys & girls, I made my first RSO from 500 gr of Indica strain buds (Sensi Star and Chronic). I used Iso and got 65ml of beautiful gold color, high THC content oil. So that's done and it works! Now this guy paste "sounds and looks" fine, but before I jump in, I would like to hear some logical and constructive comments, focusing on the benefits of this canapaste over RSO.

PS: I would like to make pills using the paste. The RSO is VERY, VERY strong and people freaking out even when using miniscule amount.
TIA

 

[Ivone]

Question:
To get high THC content from raw cannabis you have to do decarboxylation. If you check the chart at: http://skunkpharmresearch.com/decarboxylation/ it give me another idea.
Dry cannabis, then grind the hell out of it, then place it on the tray and in to oven for 27 minutes at 122c/252f.
Once done I can make paste by adding coconut oil. In this form it ca be used topically or make pills for oral use.
Would that work?

 

[gb123]

as pot dry's, natural decarboxylation occurs. Heating it to 250 will make sure the inactive THC and or CBD become active when ingesting.
Dosing takes some skill. You need good scales that measure to 0.001 of a gram. Dosing a patient should start at 0.05 to 0.10 of a gram. each night at bed...second week double that and so on. This way you don't fuck anybody up. No psychoactive effects at all doing it this way and slow!
You do not have to heat it for the length of time they say. It does not have to be fully decarbed. If you go passed that point/heat, you end up putting people to sleep with it's high CBN effect. THC degrades to CBN after that temp.
Hope this helps.

LOTS TO IT ALL...TONS OF READING!!!...

 

[Ivone]

as pot dry's, natural decarboxylation occurs. Heating it to 250 will make sure the inactive THC and or CBD become active when ingesting.
Dosing takes some skill. You need good scales that measure to 0.001 of a gram. Dosing a patient should start at 0.05 to 0.10 of a gram. each night at bed...second week double that and so on. This way you don't fuck anybody up. No psychoactive effects at all doing it this way and slow!
You do not have to heat it for the length of time they say. It does not have to be fully decarbed. If you go passed that point/heat, you end up putting people to sleep with it's high CBN effect. THC degrades to CBN after that temp.
Hope this helps.

LOTS TO IT ALL...TONS OF READING!!!...

Thanks gb123, so it work then - I hope you/we are right. This will eliminate great deal of hassle, ISO, time and work.
Time to decarboxylate min 20 - max 27minutes at 250F - NO problem
I do have great scale already - I will start them at 0.05 in green color capsule (1st week), then next week orange capsule will have 0.10, then maybe I can make red capsule with 0.15 (in case need it)

Any comments?

 

[qwizoking]

Comments?
Too many to type

 

[qwizoking]

Let's start with the innacurate graph off skunk pharm... yes even gray wolf(fadedawg on this website, will tell you as well) at higher temps loss is accounted for with volatizaion of the active compounds. The graph came from an overseas Russian "study" not in englo....they proceed to explain the drop

As temps increase more CBN is formed relative to THC from thca..

jarring your bud for roughly 4-5 months at room temp (26°c or so) without light is the most efficient way to decarb, you also retain important terpenes...or the double boil watching it

 

[qwizoking]

If you want to do it properly....
Extract the cannabinoids with your preffered method. Mine is qwiso..
Decarb the resulting hash oil over a double boil allowing you to visually tell when its done by the bubbling action of the carboxyl group leaving.. its done when it stops bubbling..

You then saturate hot coconut oil with the hash. Only for oral use. Topically a light uunsaturated fatty acid like oleic is what you want. Unrefined sunflower is best, 5-10% etoh or pg will enhance permeation
..I prefer making pills, much easier and more precise

Because the amount of hash oil the coconut oil will hold is fairly constant its easy to dose and figure mg doses.
Most people want about 2-300 mg for good affect
If its supersaturated absorption is significantly longer and more erratic. Much less efficient..you can fit a single dose in one pill
Roughly 20mg per ml will dissolve nicely, adding more may be necessary. Many of my "patients"/ customers find taking 0 pills nauseating so I switched
to 00 .. 0 holds 1 ml

 

[qwizoking]

Also don't start slow enough that effects aren't felt. When you get high, that's because receptors are being flooded. Receptor activation also happens to provide the medicinal benefit. And when i say receptor activation I'm really simplifying both direct and indirect modes of action

That's all for now.. I could keep going if you wish

 

[gb123]

and why I said there's a TON of reading to do before he starts. Theres a good dosages chart around as well
Qwizoking has the right idea for sure.

 

[Ivone]

Let's go over this again.

RSO is fine and I know how to make it, using ISO - no problem. I just like to explorer another alternatives as well.

Would dry cannabis placed in the oven for 27 minutes at 122C decarboxylate properly? If the info is wrong, then what's the correct degree and time?

What do you see exactly wrong making Canapaste like newcure?

 

[gb123]

you can decarb you meds in the oven 100% YES!
If it is heated and completely dry!. It is decrabed from what I understand. They only say the heating speeds up the process but it does happen naturally. When it is 100% dry. It is supposedly decrabed. Im not a scientist.
As Qwizo said. Make it a quick wash. Then decarb it. Makes good meds.

I used naphtha myself. lol Don't freak out. now
The way I see it. Any traces left in the medication, would be less than what I would get off of public restaurant tables, from cleaners they use to clean everything. Naphtha being a key chemical used.
My meds never had an odor to it other than oil resin.
Anyway... that was then. It did work after all.
ISO is cleaner only due to the simple fact that Naphtha can be processed differently and be denatured.

 

[GDMMCC]

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[Ivone]

Sorry to hear that man. Google Rick Simpson he is from Nova Scotia. I am sure you will be able to make some contact. Good luck.

 

[Dyna Ryda]

I have a question about RSO and infused olive oil. I was gonna start new thread but this one seems like a good place to start. I currently make extra virgin olive oil (EVO) infused oil and make cookies and brownies with that. Is that equivalent to RSO in regards to medical benefits. The reason I'm asking is because my grandmother was just diagnosed with throat cancer and I want to help her.

 

[Bugeye]

I made some a couple years back with Naptha per the video. I could never get rid of the chemical taste so we use it only for topical applications. My wife was able to remove a basil cell carcinoma (cancer of the most benign variety) from her arm with daily applications. About 10 days in it started to scab up and then came off in the shower leaving no trace behind. Her dermatologist confirmed the carcinoma and was going to remove it on next visit. He was amazed. I keep it in the fridge now in case anyone gets a melanoma. I'd be going to the dermatologist as well though.

 

[freddyc]

That's why I use stainless steel....If I could find affordable lab grade glass containers to hold the quantity of the 'raw substances' Id use it.