Almost time to harvest?

SleeezyG

Member
I'm thinking maybe another week or so then flush. What do you think?

Blue Dream X OG Kush - Hybrid
Afghan Kush - Indica
Trainwreck - Sativa

400 Watt HPS plus a couple cfl for some extra spectrum
Ocean forest/happy frog mix
Fox Farm Line
Ph 6.1
Day 57 of 12/12 although pistols did not show for about 10 days so I guess day 47 of flower.

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SleeezyG

Member
Will do. No chopping yet.

Why wouldn't I do a final flush? I want clean and smooth medicine.
Do you let them go full term without a final flush?
 
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AlecTheGardener

Well-Known Member
Will do. No chopping yet.

Why wouldn't I do a final flush?I want clean and smooth medicine.
Flushing is what we do to toilets.

If you are talking about leeching, that is an unneeded step, but if you feel you need to go ahead and do it. It is a waste of labour and time in my garden, I do not do it.

What does fertilizer taste like in smoked cannabis? I have smoked a lot and I never once looked at the grower and said that their pot tastes poorly because they did not leech, pure hyperbole.


Your timing for flower is also interesting. Most growers with a few seasons under their belt use the flip to 12/12 as the first day of flower. That means the moment you stick a plant into flowering you start counting 'days into flower.'
 

SleeezyG

Member
The flushing or "leeching" is very debatable. I would say more growers do it than don't. I can personally tell when cannabis has not been flushed well. It's a harsher smoke and taste and it leaves behind black ash. But maybe I'm just blessed living in NorCal where we grow the best in the world.

The flowering times are also debatable. I agree flowering time starts when you switch to 12/12 but there a lot of growers on here who would say it starts after the 12/12 when the first pistols show. I was just being clear so there was no confusion to anyone reading this.
 

AlecTheGardener

Well-Known Member
The flushing or "leeching" is very debatable. I would say more growers do it than don't. I can personally tell when cannabis has not been flushed well. It's a harsher smoke and taste and it leaves behind black ash. But maybe I'm just blessed living in NorCal where we grow the best in the world.

The flowering times are also debatable. I agree flowering time starts when you switch to 12/12 but there a lot of growers on here who would say it starts after the 12/12 when the first pistols show. I was just being clear so there was no confusion to anyone reading this.
Cute! Just so happen I am also from California! Lovely state. We have wonderful cannabis.

You should do more experimenting before you fall to forum myth and legend.

Good luck buddy!
 

SleeezyG

Member
I do love Cali! I used to live on the East Coast and what a difference in product quality.

The main reason I flush is because of grow experiments. I would help my friends operations before I started my own and we ran simple tests like leeching and not leeching. (I'll start working on my vocabulary lol) We found after a good cure that there was a small difference in the flavor and smoke. Nothing major but still noticable.

And I assume forum myth and legend came to be from growers doing experiments and posting their results.

Not all the of the Fox Farm line is organic. I figure you will never get everything out leeching. I just prefer to smoke fertilizer free weed.

What would the benefits be of
feeding your plants up until the chop?
 

AlecTheGardener

Well-Known Member
Your opinions are at least founded then! You have done the work and figured out your best results. Excellent! By all means keep doing what you are doing then! I was only questioning if you has actually done a comparison, many people are quick to judge before they have experimented.

I do not leech because I also have done my own experiments, my preference was for no leeching. Less labor, and larger dry weight.

Forum myth is spawned from more then genuine experimentation.

People seem to think they need to buy cannabis specific fertilizers, complete myth from start to finish. A prime example of forum myth that is often parroted by new growers. When it is parroted enough, cultivation forums become an echo chamber of misinformation and sometimes outright lies.


I grow in organic soil that has all nutrients available to my plant. From the day I sprout a seed to the end I only add water to my plants. Just water.

What benefit is choking my plant with too much water?

I would rather that my plants continue to stay beautiful and healthy until harvest time arrives, everyday growing even larger flowers without cannibalizing itself.

My own tests found:
Leeching is labor intensive

Decreased yield VS control plant

Zero smell or taste difference between control and leeched


Therefore I do not do it.

If your results are different keep doing what you are doing! Do not let me stop ya from growing some exceptional cannabis.
 

Indoor Sun King

Well-Known Member
From my side by side comparisons, flushing does not make a noticeable difference.

SleezyG....the better questions would be..... what would the benefit be of starving your plants up until the chop
 

SleeezyG

Member
I don't really think it's starving them. They only get nutes once a week anyway. So on the last two or three waterings I just give them an overdose of water so they can soak up some nice fresh water and rinse away any build up in the soil.
 

AlecTheGardener

Well-Known Member
I don't really think it's starving them. They only get nutes once a week anyway. So on the last two or three waterings I just give them an overdose of water so they can soak up some nice fresh water and rinse away any build up in the soil.
If I only gave you water for two weeks and zero food, you would lose quite a bit of weight.

That is called starving.

If you inhibit a plant from taking nutrients into itself you are in the beginning stages of starving it.

Withhold nutrients long enough and it will start eating it's leaves for nutrients, it is starving and dying.
 

SleeezyG

Member
I water twice a week on average. Once with just ph water and once with the nutes. So it's not too starved I suppose.

I'm now really excited to run some tests and see the outcome.
3 with leeching and 3 I'll feed till the end.

I really appreciate all the input.
Keep in touch and I'll let you know how they come out.
 

Trainwrek'd

Member
I grow hydro and found flushing stresses that plants. This harvest is my 1st time not flushing and doesnt make a difference in taste or burnability, better for me. (Less Labor)
 
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