How to tell male from female when they are seeds?

Maine Buds

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image.jpg Ok I came across this. I don't have any regular seeds ATM but when I do get some I'm gonna try this method any one else want to try and record your finding so we can prove and disprove this method. Pics of course will have to be taken. The appropriate method of picking female to male seed has to be the same for all and everyone has different judgement skills!
 

Scrogmonkey

Active Member
Its worth trying I suppose,just don't go chucking the rest of the beans until your picked beans turn out to be 100% female:o
 

Maine Buds

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Ha ha yes I am a stoner not sure where I found it but it was intriguing enough for me to save it. No seed chucking just labeling. Lol ! I know it sound stupid but imagine if it were true. I can take 5 or 10 seed to benefit to this project just to see! Exploration is the key!
 

Sativied

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That image keeps popping up once and a while. It's complete and total bullshit and has been debunked many times.

Sex is not predetermined but strongly influenced by the environment
Sex genes actually are established as soon as the pollen meets the calyx and the seed is developed (fem seed being the obvious proof). The actual "sexual expression" or "reproductive commitment" can be different from its sex genes, but it's not "strongly" influenced by the environment.

In general 50-50% is male/female. Getting 80/20 on 10 seeds doesn't change that, the ratio is only accurate over very large numbers.


The sexual differentiation of Cannabis sativa L.: A morphological and molecular study
V. M. Cristiana Moliterni, Luigi Cattivelli, P. Ranalli, Giuseppe Mandolino
2004
Summary

Cannabis sativa L. is a dioecious species with sexual dimorphism occurring in a late stage of plant development. Sex is determined by heteromorphic chromosomes (X and Y): male is the heterogametic sex (XY) and female is the homogametic one (XX). The sexual phenotype [trait...] of Cannabis often shows some flexibility leading to the differentiation of hermaphrodite flowers or bisexual inflorescences (monoecious phenotype). Sex is considered an important trait for hemp genetic improvement; therefore, the study of the mechanism of sexual differentiation is of paramount interest in hemp research. A morphological and molecular study of Cannabis sativa sexual differentiation has been carried out in the Italian dioecious cultivar Fibranova.

Microscopic analysis of male and female apices revealed that their reproductive commitment may occur as soon as the leaves of the fourth node emerge; the genetic expression of male and female apices at this stage has been compared by cDNA-AFLP. A rapid method for the early sex discrimination has been developed, based on the PCR amplification of a male-specific SCAR marker directly from a tissue fragment.

Five of the several cDNA-AFLP polymorphic fragments identified have been confirmed to be differentially expressed in male and female apices at the fourth node. Cloning and sequencing revealed that they belong to nine different mRNAs that were all induced in the female apices at this stage. Four out of them showed a high degree of similarity with known sequences: a putative permease, a SMT3-like protein, a putative kinesin and a RAC-GTP binding protein.

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10681-004-4758-7
 

Sativied

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Probably because not everyone realizes that if it were so easy many seed companies and breeders wouldn't sell males anymore.

Also, if I remember correctly the image and text is from a magazine article which may give the wrong impression of it being reliable info.

I know rhetorical... :)
 
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