tip top toker
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Sub is a pollen chucker and an advertiser, nothing more.
TGA 9 Pound Hammer?
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You have to pick males from hundreds of plants.Yeah, it's called breeding. Not trying to be a smart ass or anything, but it's very similar to what Bodhi, Gage Green, Rare Dankness, Sin City, etc., etc. do. They have three or four stud males and bring in good female cuts to breed with. It allows them to release more strains in a short amount of time relieving them of the time consuming burden of growing out dozens of seeds to find a stud male for each new cross. Honestly I'd rather have more strains on the menu to choose from rather than having to wait two years between releases while they seek out new males. But, to address the OP I can't understand why Sub would release such a hermie prone POS. This is the second thread I've seen 9 Pound Hammer mentioned and the second time hermies have been reported. I know he has lots of testers who would have told him about the hermie issue, and I know alot of strains that he tests don't make the cut it just seems odd he would release one that herms out all the time.
+You don't know if the male is even worthy until you test offspring from multiple females.
Bodhi shouldn't be in your list considering he is always searching for new studs + is testing/using 5+ males. (Deadly G/88G13hashplant/Appalachia(extinct)/Snow Lotus/Temple)
Amos Otis
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I guess that would suck if his pollen sucked, the pollen receivers sucked, and the offspring sucked.
That's not my opinion - is it yours?
How do you explain the scores of satisfied users? Good advertising never gets me lit. Several TGA strains have, and do.
Green House and Barneys don't skimp on advertising - probably why I tried both. The difference is in the smoke, which is my bottom line. I could care less about personalities.
tip top toker
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I've only had bad results running his gear, and have seen countless members who have had issues, and when mentioned to sub, were just told they're not doing it properly and it couldnt possibly be anything to do with his seeds. I consider him little different to GHS. There are keepers should you find them, and then a lot of guff. But the amount of variance, instability, and outright crap that can be found in his gear, well to me that is a breeder not worth my time. And i do care about personality. Sub is a dick, so i see no reason why i should give him my money when i can just shop elsewhere.
Apple has scores of satisfied customers who will say everything they can to convince you that apple sells superior hardware. Doesn't mean it is true.
Amos Otis
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So, to cut to your real point, you're suggesting that happy Apple customers are too ignorant to know that their product actually sucks.......and by the comparison, you're saying that TGA customers are what? Too brainwashed by advertising to realize they are smoking crap? That's your argument?
Since I've ran and enjoyed several TGA strains, does that mean the Bodhi and Soma strains I've ran, smoked and liked are crap as well?
Richard Simmons
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I don't think you read what he wrote properly. I think if you look a little deeper it into the "apple" comment you'd realize that most "apple" people have all their products in that company. They love what they have so they don't need to try anything else. Hence why it could turn into a bad thing because seeds are more like the lottery than technology. How you sposed to win it big if your only buying the black diamonds, you gotta try the red ruby of cash too and see if you get the win win.So, to cut to your real point, you're suggesting that happy Apple customers are too ignorant to know that their product actually sucks.......and by the comparison, you're saying that TGA customers are what? Too brainwashed by advertising to realize they are smoking crap? That's your argument?
Since I've ran and enjoyed several TGA strains, does that mean the Bodhi and Soma strains I've ran, smoked and liked are crap as well?
Amos Otis
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I browsed some of your posts over the past weekend. I'd rate your trolling skills somewhere between autos and pure ruderalis.
Richard Simmons
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There still be a big group enjoying their autos mr buzzkill
GroErr
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Wow, was hoping to get some info/feedback on 9lb Hammer, didn't realize this had turned into a bitch-slap session.
Has anyone grown it? It sounds amazing but haven't run into any grows here to report facts and see it in action.
As far as TGA, only reason I've ever been to their web site is to get info on strains. If they advertise I wouldn't know, and ignore it just like any other ad, same reason I don't watch TV.
But, from my own limited experience, just finished some Jack The Ripper, and my son just finished some Ace of Spades. Both were magnificent examples of fire. One (JTR) sativa, one (AoS) Indica.Both will stay in mine and my son's garden for a long time, and bred with others to see if we can find some gems.
I originally popped 4 seeds, 2 crapped out after popping, my fault imo. 2 grew magnificent plants, one ended up a male, which I then collected pollen from and I'm breeding some seeds right now. My son grew out all 10 AoS seeds, all popped, 8 females, 1 male (which I now have for pollenating), 1 was a runt and he culled it. I'd say that's not bad for reg seeds. As far as I'm concerned if I'm going to grow a plant for breeding I want the best regular seed/specimen and go from there.
Now back to regularly scheduled programming. Does anyone have any real experience with 9lb. Hammer?
Has anyone grown it? It sounds amazing but haven't run into any grows here to report facts and see it in action.
As far as TGA, only reason I've ever been to their web site is to get info on strains. If they advertise I wouldn't know, and ignore it just like any other ad, same reason I don't watch TV.
But, from my own limited experience, just finished some Jack The Ripper, and my son just finished some Ace of Spades. Both were magnificent examples of fire. One (JTR) sativa, one (AoS) Indica.Both will stay in mine and my son's garden for a long time, and bred with others to see if we can find some gems.
I originally popped 4 seeds, 2 crapped out after popping, my fault imo. 2 grew magnificent plants, one ended up a male, which I then collected pollen from and I'm breeding some seeds right now. My son grew out all 10 AoS seeds, all popped, 8 females, 1 male (which I now have for pollenating), 1 was a runt and he culled it. I'd say that's not bad for reg seeds. As far as I'm concerned if I'm going to grow a plant for breeding I want the best regular seed/specimen and go from there.
Now back to regularly scheduled programming. Does anyone have any real experience with 9lb. Hammer?
gabechihua
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Sorry, but you're living in a fantasy if you think the seed biz is filled with breeders who grow out hundreds of plants in search of a male. It's extremely rare that a breeder would grow out that many just to find a good male. Oh, and please source me a definition of breeding that states you must select from a large pool and use a new male every time.
Richard Simmons
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Dictionary.com - Marijuana Seed Breeder - One who lets their two marijuana plants do the jig.
I didn't say there was a definition that states you must have large numbers.
I personally know a family that grows near 250 plants with their combined plant counts.
They pick males from large numbers of plants, but they aren't in the seed biz.
I really don't understand why you are mad?
They should be able to pick studs from that many plants considering how many seeds they are making, and it's not fantasy if grandma's crew down the street can do it.
I personally know a family that grows near 250 plants with their combined plant counts.
They pick males from large numbers of plants, but they aren't in the seed biz.
I really don't understand why you are mad?
They should be able to pick studs from that many plants considering how many seeds they are making, and it's not fantasy if grandma's crew down the street can do it.
gabechihua
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I know tone can be hard to convey on the internet, but I'm not mad. I just think it's lame how anal some stoners are when it comes to what constitutes a true breeder. It's nice you know some people that breed that way, but the truth is the biz is filled with breeders who don't.
Whatstrain
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Ive yet to have a problem with what ive grown from TGA. I could have 10 females of the same strain that could be grouped into 4 different pheno/genos all of which have something good going for them (high or medical effects) and ill get one good keeper out fo those 10. Compared to barneys/CC/Dinafem and the few other breeders ive tried that will have completely different plants half of which by the end of flowering i wish i would of killed off and may get one somewhat decent keeper. Any issues ive ever seen like herming as usually because of grower error at one point or another.
swagslayer420
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I was looking at that ace of spades glad you reported on it. how much did he crop of 8? what was veg and flower time? any info will be appreciated.
horribleherk
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ace of spades is a solid performer you wouldnt be dissapointed
GroErr
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It's definitely a producer, he's drying right now but it's looking like an average of 3 zips/plant, 7 weeks veg in 5gal pots under T5HO, just over 9 weeks to finish it in flower under hps so not a bad run and he didn't do much of anything as far as training. Tried a small bud uncured and it'll be a nice smoke once it's cured... I'm looking forward to crossing it with JTR, should be a good combo, they're both soaked in trichs and hoping the cross produces more like AoS, JTR is great smoke but not a huge producer unless you do some training with it.
I've never grown TGA myself, but I've smoked many of their strains.
Always tasty + potent, but they were keepers other people found + cloned.
Archive/TGA will be the next breeder's I try out.
Richard Simmons
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Usually grower error, but when someone has been growing indoor for ten years and has their systems dialed in I believe it is the strains fault not the grower. Especially when you pop over 100 seeds from different companies and then get hermdoggies from the 9lb drooper
homebrewer
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That initial cross that you call 'breeding' is merely the first step in a breeding project, except that first step is as far as he goes which is the reason why his crosses vary so much from plant to plant.