Obama now negotiates with terrorists

[BigNBushy]

We traded four or five Gitmo detainees for one American solder who has been held in Afghanistan.

Ok, that gives you some warm fuzzy feelings.

But hasn't US policy been for ever that we won't negotiate with terrorists? Why the sudden turn around?

 

[tightpockt]

Just so I have this straight.
You're criticizing Obama for securing the release of an American POW?

 

[ginwilly]

IDK BNB, I look at it like this is not a normal terrorist negotiation. We had a soldier captured during a war we should never have been in and released prisoners we should have never captured. I'm pro-Obama on this one.

 

[charface]

Not to worry.

 

[Harrekin]

We traded four or five Gitmo detainees for one American solder who has been held in Afghanistan.

Ok, that gives you some warm fuzzy feelings.

But hasn't US policy been for ever that we won't negotiate with terrorists? Why the sudden turn around?

Its pretty obvious, the soldier was a Jew...

Who runs the world?

Couldn't have one of the Chosen held by the enemy.

 

[BigNBushy]

Just so I have this straight.
You're criticizing Obama for securing the release of an American POW?

I didn't criticize once in my post.

I asked why the sudden difference in policy.

I don't like the precedent it sets. That's for sure.

Of course the converse of that is just another dead American soldier.

It is a tough moral question, with no good answer. But the answer had always been till this point that we're better off on the whole if we don't do this stuff.

 

[tip top toker]

Id be more concerned had they traded actual convicted criminals, not simply illegally held hostages.

 

[ginwilly]

that's my take too tip top, it's like we swapped hostages instead of prisoners.

BNB, I have the same concern over what precedent this could set. This could set off a rash of kidnapping of our citizens around the world. That's a concern for sure.No easy answer for this one, but taken as an isolated incident, I'm pleased with the outcome.

 

[BigNBushy]

that's my take too tip top, it's like we swapped hostages instead of prisoners.

BNB, I have the same concern over what precedent this could set. This could set off a rash of kidnapping of our citizens around the world. That's a concern for sure.No easy answer for this one, but taken as an isolated incident, I'm pleased with the outcome.

Yeah, as I said, it gives you the warm fuzzies.

IT was the right thing to do if you take future consequences out of the equation.

As far as the guys in Gitmo are concerned, they may have not been convicted of anything, but they're there for a reason.

 

[Glaucoma]

Glad we got one back, but I agree it was an unusually high cost. Even if these guys weren't important when we arrested them, they are rock stars now.

 

[BigNBushy]

Glad we got one back, but I agree it was an unusually high cost. Even if these guys weren't important when we arrested them, they are rock stars now.

I'm sure the guys in Gitmo had time to reflect on the error of their past ways, and are now ready to lead a peaceful life. Perhaps they'll start a falafel stand.

 

[ginwilly]

Yeah, as I said, it gives you the warm fuzzies.

IT was the right thing to do if you take future consequences out of the equation.

As far as the guys in Gitmo are concerned, they may have not been convicted of anything, but they're there for a reason.

Yep, it's a feel good thing. We do seem to get in trouble when we think with emotion instead of logic, so we can expect fall out.

Glad we got one back, but I agree it was an unusually high cost. Even if these guys weren't important when we arrested them, they are rock stars now.

Also true.

 

[Harrekin]

Glad we got one back, but I agree it was an unusually high cost. Even if these guys weren't important when we arrested them, they are rock stars now.

Totally agree, they survived the monolith of the Infidel Imperialistic system known as Gitmo, the highest security prison in the planet.

They'll get millions of virgins.

 

[Jimdamick]

Its pretty obvious, the soldier was a Jew...

Who runs the world?

Couldn't have one of the Chosen held by the enemy.

You know, most of the time you viewpoint is interesting, but that statement is fucking ridiculous. If the US wanted to kiss Israeli ass, which we do every day anyway, release Pollard. That would probably be more tolerable to the Republicans who are again clamoring for Obamas head. He was an American soldier, maybe a traitor, but a trial on American soil will determine that. 5 towelheads is worth 1 American in my opinion any day. Besides, we probably put GPS devices in their heads while we were waterboarding them, so next time they walk around outside a drone is going to say bye, bye anyway.

 

[doublejj]

The guy was a deserter......

 

[Harrekin]

You know, most of the time you viewpoint is interesting, but that statement is fucking ridiculous. If the US wanted to kiss Israeli ass, which we do every day, release Pollard. That would probably be more tolerable to the Republicans who are again clamoring for Obamas head. He was an American soldier, maybe a traitor, but a trial on American soil will determine that. 5 towelheads is worth 1 American in my opinion any day. Besides, we probably put GPS devices in their heads while we were waterboarding them, so next time they walk around outside a drone is going to say bye, bye anyway.

So youre saying the Jewish lobby in the US isn't disproportionately powerful given demographics?

 

[Jimdamick]

So youre saying the Jewish lobby in the US isn't disproportionately powerful given demographics?

No, I am not saying that. AIPAC is a scourge on the American people, and actually on the world, because without their blackmail and bribe money to American politicians, Israel would be where it should be, without a friend in the world. But this soldier is an American first, so bring him home. Then we can hang him ourselves.

 

[Harrekin]

No, I am not saying that. AIPAC is a scourge on the American people, and actually on the world, because without their blackmail and bribe money to American politicians, Israel would be where it should be, without a friend in the world. But this soldier is an American first, so bring him home. Then we can hang him ourselves.

Ive read a number of primary sources that infer that he voluntarily left camp and joined the Taliban...

 

[NoDrama]

Soldiers who willingly join the enemy are not POW's. The trade is so that we can "disappear" him.

 

[TubePot]

This guy is a POS, six men were killed while looking for this deserter.