Hey New Growers, Let's try this again?

[hogbud]

Cool. What do you look for when selecting males? Do you do anything different when growing males vs females?

I look for vigor, structure, hardiness in males I look for these things in females as well but with them I am also concerned with the high. I make salads with the 2 strains I intend to cross by mixing the 2 and smoking them, I vary the salads 2 parts of one to one part of the other, one part to 3 parts etc. looking for the potential various highs a cross might deliver. It is always a joy to actually smoke the cross for the first time to see how the high is compared to the various salads and if it misses a place I wanted it to go I do back crosses to try and get there.

I also do a lot of experiments on males as it hurts nothing if the experiment goes bad.

as for different, I don't push em, I don't worry about big colas I just let em do their thing and make seeds. I never worry about the cost of seeds as I have thousands of em, so if a seed don't pop I just throw down another

 

[TryN]

Thousands of seeds! That is cool. lol. I have 4 lol. I eventually want to start breeding.

Do you do/have you done any plant training? If so, what results have you obtained?

 

[hogbud]

Do you do/have you done any plant training? If so, what results have you obtained?[/QUOTE]
I have pretty much tried most things and settled into two techniques I like, one is a defoil thing that causes all the branches to grow up and my fav is monster cropping, which is simply taking clones during the 1st 20 days of flower. once rooted it has to re-veg which causes it to mutate into little bushy beast

 

[TryN]

Ahhh ... Someday ... I will have more than four! Lol ... Holy Diver ... i love it because I am a huge Dio fan!

Do you use those techniques on all your plants or when you feel like it?

 

[hogbud]

Ahhh ... Someday ... I will have more than four! Lol ... Holy Diver ... i love it because I am a huge Dio fan!

Do you use those techniques on all your plants or when you feel like it?

When Dio passed it was hard on me, when I first met him he hugged me because I had followed him since Elf. I named 10 strains after him and a few of them have been grown all over the world.

I use the defoil on seeds and monster crop for clones pretty much all the time as they work for my intended goals

 

[TryN]

Elf ... Good music. I first saw Dio on the Black Sabbath Heaven and Hell tour. Never got to meet him, so cool that you did! Fantastic musician, missed much!

Have you found any environmental factors that causes plants to hermi or to "switch" to another sex? I have been told that environmental conditions can effect sex. I have not read anything on this yet, or looked for anything, wondering if you have experimented with that at all?

 

[hogbud]

Elf ... Good music. I first saw Dio on the Black Sabbath Heaven and Hell tour. Never got to meet him, so cool that you did! Fantastic musician, missed much!

Have you found any environmental factors that causes plants to hermi or to "switch" to another sex? I have been told that environmental conditions can effect sex. I have not read anything on this yet, or looked for anything, wondering if you have experimented with that at all?

What I have "discovered" is that most of that is myth, like the light leak thing. I have a wide open garden and there are lots of light leaks. Now I also have a happy plant garden where there is very little stress. that said I have only had 2 hermies in all my years and only time I've had bugs was 2 times from gifted clones

 

[hogbud]

Yet another thing that most new growers don't know, is that the environment where a plant grows is DNA encoded into the seeds. This is why plants don't grow the same as the breeder when you buy seeds. Once you breed your own you'll see as the seeds will be encoded in "your" garden and will grow so much better. This is also the reason that if your gonna add UVB you should do so in both veg and flower.

 

[TryN]

What I have "discovered" is that most of that is myth, like the light leak thing. I have a wide open garden and there are lots of light leaks. Now I also have a happy plant garden where there is very little stress. that said I have only had 2 hermies in all my years and only time I've had bugs was 2 times from gifted clones

Awesome! I debunked that light leak issue just by the concept of the full moon. So Can I bring up CBDs and terpenes without catching a keyboard beating?

 

[ayr0n]

Yet another thing that most new growers don't know, is that the environment where a plant grows is DNA encoded into the seeds. This is why plants don't grow the same as the breeder when you buy seeds. Once you breed your own you'll see as the seeds will be encoded in "your" garden and will grow so much better. This is also the reason that if your gonna add UVB you should do so in both veg and flower.

Some interesting stuff that I've never considered... I always thought pictures of a strain on seedbank sites / sales pages always looked a lot nicer than what people actually produced when they ordered the seeds, and thought it was similar to like a mcdonalds sandwich looking perfect on the image and coming out like a sloppy POS, but maybe what you just said is a factor in that a bit too...plus I'd assume a lot of these 'mainstream' (for lack of a better word) breeders have much better conditions to grow in than most of us at home...

 

[hogbud]

Awesome! I debunked that light leak issue just by the concept of the full moon. So Can I bring up CBDs and terpenes without catching a keyboard beating?

won't get a beating from me LOL

 

[althor]

Yet another good read on the subject,,,,,

http://www.clear-uk.org/the-importance-of-matured-cannabis/

This one makes good sense to me for 2 reasons, one I have seen a lot of cut early buds comin out of the dispensaries and 2 we have had one guy kill his wife and himself and another guy jump off a building in the last several weeks (here in Colorado) which they are blaming on pot that was "too racy" comparing it to meth

Hold on man, the dude that killed his wife was on ALL KINDS OF SHIT and he smoked a little pot a long with it....

The idiot that jumped off a building had taken 6x the recommended dose of edibles. And I will never believe he killed himself because of edibles, but because he wanted to kill himself and he took edibles before he did it.

 

[hogbud]

Hold on man, the dude that killed his wife was on ALL KINDS OF SHIT and he smoked a little pot a long with it....

The idiot that jumped off a building had taken 6x the recommended dose of edibles. And I will never believe he killed himself because of edibles, but because he wanted to kill himself and he took edibles before he did it.

Didn't say I believed it, I said "they" are saying

but the early harvest thing is very real IMO

 

[althor]

Awesome! I debunked that light leak issue just by the concept of the full moon. So Can I bring up CBDs and terpenes without catching a keyboard beating?

I would say debunked is a gross overstatement.
I have had a batch hermie, went into my box and found light leaks, fixed the light leaks, no more hermies. So yeah, I will stick to the (tested) opinion that light leaks can lead to herm.

 

[hogbud]

I would say debunked is a gross overstatement.
I have had a batch hermie, went into my box and found light leaks, fixed the light leaks, no more hermies. So yeah, I will stick to the (tested) opinion that light leaks can lead to herm.

You pick him and the moon instead of me who has major light leaks for years and no hermies to speak of , my veg room is right behind my flower area and both are wide open, the light from veg illuminates my flower area in the dark time. You can stick to what you want but it's BS at best

 

[TryN]

Hey Hogbud ... Let's think about this for a minute ... How would you design an experiment to validate this? I am curious ... And thinking about this now ... But back to terpenes and cbds ... Which would you say you have the most experience working with (i cannot really think of another way to word it) ... Or have you personally been involved with the studying of those two (terpenes and cbds)?

 

[althor]

If you have veg light shining on your flowering buds, how does it ever start the photoperiod?
Sorry man, I have a hard time believing it, why even bother changing to a 12/12 schedule if you can leave lights on your plants 18 hours...
Either way... I had a batch of hermies, looked for a reason, found a big light leak at the bottom of my door, fixed it, no more hermies.... You can call it coincidence if you want.

 

[hogbud]

Hey Hogbud ... Let's think about this for a minute ... How would you design an experiment to validate this? I am curious ... And thinking about this now ... But back to terpenes and cbds ... Which would you say you have the most experience working with (i cannot really think of another way to word it) ... Or have you personally been involved with the studying of those two (terpenes and cbds)?

Don't need to as I have left the basement lights on over night,,,,, no hermies. I have done the 24 hour blue light experiment ,,,, no hermies. as stated my veg room lights up the whole corner of my flower area,,,, no hermies

will get to the CBD thing in a minute

 

[ayr0n]

I would say debunked is a gross overstatement.
I have had a batch hermie, went into my box and found light leaks, fixed the light leaks, no more hermies. So yeah, I will stick to the (tested) opinion that light leaks can lead to herm.

You pick him and the moon instead of me who has major light leaks for years and no hermies to speak of , my veg room is right behind my flower area and both are wide open, the light from veg illuminates my flower area in the dark time. You can stick to what you want but it's BS at best

Wouldn't you say there's a little more to it than just light leaks or not? I mean the conditions indoors are 100% emulated / fake, and plants certainly do get light even after the photoperiod in a natural setting - just less...Could be additional factors like what Type of light is leaking in, how much, where it's leaking in relation to where the plants are, and 100's of other environmental conditions in combination with a leak might determine whether or not it's stressful or not...?

 

[hogbud]

If you have veg light shining on your flowering buds, how does it ever start the photoperiod?
Sorry man, I have a hard time believing it, why even bother changing to a 12/12 schedule if you can leave lights on your plants 18 hours...
Either way... I had a batch of hermies, looked for a reason, found a big light leak at the bottom of my door, fixed it, no more hermies.... You can call it coincidence if you want.

Def coincidence IMO Though I can see the light, there is not enough for the plants to respond to