Suggestions for New MMPR patients or old ones

Jackal69

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I think this topic is long overdue

Assuming your doctor has agreed to sign u up for the MMPR.

Download as many LP forms and print them out for your Doctor to sign or is willing to sign- yes you can have more than one LP, explain that it's not a perfect system and some LP's are terrible at providing medications and are out of stock without notice, some even irradiate the MMJ without telling you, buyer beware(foolish right?) at lest have 2-4 LP's.... nice fudge factor.

You don't need to split your grams pre day up between LP's - like say 5 grams a day, all LP's can be signed up for 5 grams, Don't go over your allotment .... we still don't know what the consequences will be if you do.. so don't be the one they make an example of

if you email or call an LP and they don't return your calls or emails in a timely manner, drop the assholes because that kinda service no patient needs, never tell them your quitting them because you might need them at a later point if for some reason your main LP can't provide your meds... burnt down.... crop issues...

Don't stand for crappy medication (assuming you have more than one) get them to return your money not just give you a credit you may never use again, of course this may not be possible. Then don't order from a place that has burned you.... yeah it's a tough one... because they do have ya by the short and curlies but if you have a different LP to order from great ... leave that crappy one in the wind then ... if you only have the one ... run back to the doctor again and change LP's (then get a couple signed up) bullshit of course it is, but why give money to an LP that's screwing with you by not providing quality medications, making it hard to order and making life in general hard for you because you have better things to do than deal with more bullshit (especially a company that relies on you to stay in business, they should be bending over backwards to make sure your being helped)

Don't forget when you have a terrible experience come back to the forums and say what happened to you and who it was. If you have a great experience do the same... because we need to know who is providing the great meds and who isn't.

Let these LP's know they have no control over us patients, lets take control of this broken system let the quality rise and shit fall in the toilet where it belongs!

I'm a patient like you but this is what I see so far that may help others navigate this broken system.

oh yeah don't fall for the fancy bullshit on websites, because it's only ,marketing... sometimes never reflects the actual experience some LP's give
 

Jackal69

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look for threads that show pictures of quality medication on these forums ... if you don't know what quality looks like. compare to what the LP is giving you as you might be able to get better.

ask yourself do you need your MMJ that your consuming whether smoking or ingesting really need to be irradiated?
Some LP's wont tell you when you order but when it arrives it may say it's been nuked, that's not right is it?

if your waiting for LP approval or switching to a new LP, you may want to look at a compassion club to tide you over for medication needs in-between time, who knows you may stay with the CC
 

leaffan

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I think this topic is long overdue

Assuming your doctor has agreed to sign u up for the MMPR.

Download as many LP forms and print them out for your Doctor to sign or is willing to sign- yes you can have more than one LP, explain that it's not a perfect system and some LP's are terrible at providing medications and are out of stock without notice, some even irradiate the MMJ without telling you, buyer beware(foolish right?) at lest have 2-4 LP's.... nice fudge factor.

You don't need to split your grams pre day up between LP's - like say 5 grams a day, all LP's can be signed up for 5 grams, Don't go over your allotment .... we still don't know what the consequences will be if you do.. so don't be the one they make an example of

if you email or call an LP and they don't return your calls or emails in a timely manner, drop the assholes because that kinda service no patient needs, never tell them your quitting them because you might need them at a later point if for some reason your main LP can't provide your meds... burnt down.... crop issues...

Don't stand for crappy medication (assuming you have more than one) get them to return your money not just give you a credit you may never use again, of course this may not be possible. Then don't order from a place that has burned you.... yeah it's a tough one... because they do have ya by the short and curlies but if you have a different LP to order from great ... leave that crappy one in the wind then ... if you only have the one ... run back to the doctor again and change LP's (then get a couple signed up) bullshit of course it is, but why give money to an LP that's screwing with you by not providing quality medications, making it hard to order and making life in general hard for you because you have better things to do than deal with more bullshit (especially a company that relies on you to stay in business, they should be bending over backwards to make sure your being helped)

Don't forget when you have a terrible experience come back to the forums and say what happened to you and who it was. If you have a great experience do the same... because we need to know who is providing the great meds and who isn't.

Let these LP's know they have no control over us patients, lets take control of this broken system let the quality rise and shit fall in the toilet where it belongs!

I'm a patient like you but this is what I see so far that may help others navigate this broken system.

oh yeah don't fall for the fancy bullshit on websites, because it's only ,marketing... sometimes never reflects the actual experience some LP's give
If your doctor says 5g/day, you are going to have a hard time with most doctors trying to convince them of giving you 4 different 5g/d documents.
No need to go into a lengthy explanation on it is allowed...I know it is.
I know most doctors won't do that. Some will split your document up though, ie 3g/d plus 2g/d.
They will not be satisfied with Health Canada saying it's ok to do this, and trust me doctor I am an honorable guy and I wont buy more than I should.
 
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Jackal69

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If your doctor says 5g/day, you are going to have a hard time with most doctors trying to convince them of giving you 4 different 5g/d documents.
No need to go into a lengthy explanation on it is allowed...I know it is.
I know most doctors won't do that. Some will split your document up though, ie 3g/d plus 2g/d.
They will not be satisfied the Health Canada saying it's ok to do this, and trust me doctor I am an honorable guy and I wont buy more than I should.
maybe so.... so he signs one form.... then you come in and say ...hey doctor these guys suck I need to change to another... why he asks.... because it's nothing but headaches and garbage.... ok signs another.... then next couple weeks you make another appt. same thing...... then ya go see doc.... could have saved us both the trouble.... he gets another patient .... now the doc is probably more willing to sign more than one.....

besides, you don't have to tell him your in charge of ensuring you don't go over..... just say this is the way it's done, so if one goes under you can get your meds from another. come leaffan it's all common sense. your not doing anything illegal.
 

leaffan

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Jackal...I've talked to quite a lot of doctors this past two months. I'm only giving the feedback I've got from the doctors.
The doctors are under a huge amount of pressure from the CMA and their own Colleges not to participate.
The doctors primary concern is not losing their licence.
I think it's a good idea you started this thread.
 

Agracan

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Pre-fill the forms before you show them to the doctor. Don't give him 10 forms that he has to go through and get wrist cramps filling out. Just leave his signature and amounts empty, so it's super easy for him to do the document.

As a side note. I would also suggest, and this is a suggestion I have for HC, that we have 1 standard form. Which you could download from the HC website. I don't get why each company has to have the same info required in 10 different formats, it's so inefficient.
 

Jackal69

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to add to that agracan, so the doctor doesn't wonder why it's done in your handwriting you can sometimes fill out the forms in font before ya print, looks more professional for the doctor.

leaffan at the beginning I mentioned "all this is assuming you already talked with you doctor and they are willing to sign", lets not make it more complicated than it is.
 

Jackal69

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well you tell the doctor they have checks in place so your not get 4 times 5 grams aday duh, because it's not a normal script, your not cashing it in at a pharmacy
 

leaffan

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Also...you don't have to use the LP provided medical documents, a generic one will suffice. Like the one shown at HC site.
The LPs obviously want the doctors to use their branded documents, but is a doctor really expected to carry 50+ different documents to appease the LPs?
 

oddish

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We should assemble the documents and host them somewhere convenient online so they're all in one place and potential patients can download all the files and the instruction sheet on how best to proceed.
 

Jackal69

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well you keep on say ... well this that.... so I say do this then that ... big deal but because common sense wins out ... don't go away mad
 

Jackal69

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Also...you don't have to use the LP provided medical documents, a generic one will suffice. Like the one shown at HC site.
The LPs obviously want the doctors to use their branded documents, but is a doctor really expected to carry 50+ different documents to appease the LPs?
umm I know this is hard to believe but the patient could bring in these forms...... once again common sense leaf
 

oddish

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I may try going to just my traditional doctor.. the one I've had since I was born, see what she says about giving me a prescription. I imagine if I had all the forms I could convince her.

That said, she's the one that's been prescribing me puffers and lung specialists for 10 years, so maybe not..
 

Jackal69

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look up vaporization probably better for you besides making an edible to ingest which if you have lung issues ... would be the way to go... but again with these cool rules on MMJ you can't make or carry edibles unless you live in B.C.
I think that's correct in saying
 

oddish

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Correct.. I'm pretty sure anything except dried product is considered illegal.
Vapor is much better for me and for my wife letting me partake - she has something against smoke.
 

Jackal69

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So ... funny thing.... this issue that seems to come up is... if you have 5 gram /day script.... you get 2 LP's with both 5 gram / day scripts...... what is actually the system in place that prevents the patient going over????
I have asked this question in the past in threads .... all you wanna be LP's and not one can answer? you guys seem to know everything about LP's as far as your concerned, but this alludes ya?
 

leaffan

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umm I know this is hard to believe but the patient could bring in these forms...... once again common sense leaf
Like I said, I give up. You win.
Everyone can ignore my input on the feedback from countless meetings with doctors that I've attended.
 
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