Hey New Growers, Let's try this again?
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mr sunshine
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Those nuggs could be denser!!!very nice for t5s tho great job!
hogbud
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Those nugs were dense as hell and the T5's are over 2 feet away from the canopy, not a lot of growers could do that,,,,,,, c'mon be honest
mr sunshine
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Are u saying those are the fattest nuggs you ever grew....they look very nice thats not a little t5 grow those lights are monsters ....but those nuggs are not huge i agree alot of growers cant pull that off.... but do you agree that alot can!! Look at all the grows on here alot of people here know their stuff!!! I like what you produced with the t5s but to say your doing something ground breaking is insane imo!!!like lets go back to the brown bushing thing thats nothing new all your doing is stressing the plant lol u say it helps cloraphyll leave the plant ..i disagree all your doing is murdering it and waiting it out once you boil those roots the plants done it doesn't matter how wet your soil is that shits not going to drink water any more ...in an effort to keep the water the plants retaining it will get sticky!! Thats all
hogbud
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I have seen a lot of growers grow big nugs, I have not seen anybody do it with T5's but admit that does not mean they are not out there. I never said it was groundbreaking !!!
as for the boil thing, I boil em even if I'm not brown bushin em because I know the science of what happens when the plant is starved of O2 and the boil thing makes that happen instantly, it is oh so much more than stress and has nothing to do with wet soil
oh and don't forget I only used one veg nute all the way thru
don't wanna sound like dick here but maybe if the experts stopped inserting 2 cents here and there I might be able to teach the new growers a thing or three?
mr sunshine
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If you want to starve the plant of co2 why don't you just submerge the roots in water for a few days! Burning the roots just kills them....i was simply stating you are killing roots and once you hit them with boiling water they are unable to function. I believe your method kills and damages which would be more of a stress thing ..i know what your trying to do i just think you are killing the plant which starves it of oxygen but only because its dead not because you are restricting oxygen....
hogbud
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it's O2 not CO2 and I have a feeling you have no idea what I'm doing let alone trying to do
and yes boiling the roots kills the roots and starves it of O2 (Oxygen)
they totally stay alive, why I leave em under the lights for 3 days after I do it and something wonderful happens which is pure science, if you know what I'm trying to do please share ???
mr sunshine
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I meant oxygen not carbon dioxide my bad . i get what you think we are almost on the same page i just think the effect boiling water gives is more of a last effort for the plant to stay alive ! Can you post a link that says its anything else then stress and death... fyi starving the plant of oxygen is a form of stress!
mr sunshine
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If you want to trick it into thinking its dead so it can release cloraphyll while its alive submerge it in water! Have u tried that?
hogbud
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well since every one already knows I am RM3 we can link one of my old threads for the science,,,,
https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-truth-about-flushing.409622/
When plants are starved of O2 they convert sugars to alcohol in an attempt to survive, ironically this is the same thing that happens when we "cure" our plants, it's called fermentation. In moma nature this occurs when there is a flood, or it rains continuously for days and all plants do it. and yes you can simply drown em to get the same effect but it takes longer and increases your chances for mold. The boiled water makes it happen instantly and the buds taste as if they have had a 7 to 10 day cure when dry, IOW it speeds up the curing process
hogbud
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you are combining two different notions
mr sunshine
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How?
hogbud
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You are saying that I am boiling to remove chlorophyll and I'm not, I boil to induce fermentation, it is time that removes chlorophyll
ayr0n
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This is getting a little derailed but do you mind going into your curing / drying process a little? Do you do anything unique when drying your plants since they take longer to dry (forcing the stomata closed)?
mr sunshine
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We are both saying the same shit your just emphasizing the cure... and I'm emphasizing the early release of the chlorophyll.. which again go hand in hand !!! Good discussion!
hogbud
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well that derail was ok cause I got to share a bit more useful info,,,, I think
I invented the fermentation chamber so I do things a lot differently than most ( I have been experimentin with this plant for years) but what is important for all you new growers to know and understand that if you dry to fast you can get a grassy hay smelling herb that sucks balls, so drying slow is a very good thing
My fermentation chamber controls temp & humidity, as for unique, I don't hang dry, I do so in piles, I'll post pics here in a bit
hogbud
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never said they were special, I did say that most would not have the lights as far away as I do
hogbud
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the removal of chlorophyll takes time, as I said 2 months to get an all brown bush
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