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[Rob Roy]

you certainly are.

civil rights didn't come about because white people were being too nice, ya know. it came about because white racists were causing harm to blacks in order to elevate their own status as a race.

your argument is that whites should be allowed to cause harm to blacks, which are "special rights" since causing harm has never been a right, ever.

Still don't know the difference between an actionable harm and indifference do you?

Actionable harms were done by racists, that was wrong of them to do that. That's not what I've been debating simpleton.

I'm defending the right of an indifferent person, even a racist, to control his own property, but not the property of others.
You've run from that discussion and created another argument for me to defend which is not the argument I have made.

When people do that, they are showing their inability to refute something. Green crayon is not a refutation.....sorry.

 

[UncleBuck]

Still don't know the difference between an actionable harm and indifference do you?

"indifference" is when a business owner treats a black customer just like any other customer.

that's not what was happening before civil rights. white racists like you were initiating aggression against blacks. their racist hostilities were not an example of "indifference", they were an example of aggressive racist hostility.

and, as we all know, not a single historian will agree with you. no one will. the actions of white racist business owners that you defend caused harm to blacks. plain and simple.

 

[Rob Roy]

they are funded by people who voluntarily choose to live in a certain area and pay property taxes there. otherwise they are free to relocate somewhere else without property taxes.

Lysander Spooner called. He said he'd like to abolish gerbil slavery. Please let the little fella go....please.

 

[Rob Roy]

"indifference" is when a business owner treats a black customer just like any other customer.

that's not what was happening before civil rights. white racists like you were initiating aggression against blacks. their racist hostilities were not an example of "indifference", they were an example of aggressive racist hostility.

and, as we all know, not a single historian will agree with you. no one will. the actions of white racist business owners that you defend caused harm to blacks. plain and simple.

Indifference could mean that. It could also mean not wishing to participate in something or associate with someone or something.
You forgot that part....Prussian Schools again?

How is a person seeking to NOT associate with another that INSISTS on associating with him being the hostile one again Mr. Likes to Rape Gerbils?

 

[londonfog]

I guess I will take it that Rob Roy does not want to comment if he home schooled his kids

 

[UncleBuck]

Indifference could mean that. It could also mean not wishing to participate in something or associate with someone or something.

if it's so important for you to not associate with black people, then you are not indifferent. you are the opposite of indifferent.

here's a hint, racistroy: if you don't want to associate with black people, stay at home. if you must open a business, just make it private. that way you will never be faced with that horrible moment when a black person walks into your business, unaware that you are a white separatist who does not want to be around black people.




in·dif·fer·ence
inˈdif(ə)rəns/
noun

1. lack of interest, concern, or sympathy.
   "she shrugged, feigning indifference"
   synonyms:lack of concern, unconcern, disinterest, lack of interest, lack of enthusiasm, apathy, nonchalance, insouciance; More
   
   • unimportance.

 

[Rob Roy]

I guess I will take it that Rob Roy does not want to comment if he home schooled his kids

If a poitical prisoner eats the food he is given by his captors, he is not agreeing to the ideology of the captor is he?

 

[londonfog]

If a poitical prisoner eats the food he is given by his captors, he is not agreeing to the ideology of the captor is he?

Prisoner has no option other then starvation. You on the other hand have/had options

 

[Rob Roy]

if it's so important for you to not associate with black people, then you are not indifferent. you are the opposite of indifferent.

here's a hint, racistroy: if you don't want to associate with black people, stay at home. if you must open a business, just make it private. that way you will never be faced with that horrible moment when a black person walks into your business, unaware that you are a white separatist who does not want to be around black people.




in·dif·fer·ence
inˈdif(ə)rəns/
noun

1. lack of interest, concern, or sympathy.
   "she shrugged, feigning indifference"
   synonyms:lack of concern, unconcern, disinterest, lack of interest, lack of enthusiasm, apathy, nonchalance, insouciance; More
   • unimportance.

Still no green crayon? Are you now indifferent to green crayons? It's okay if you are, because nobody should make you associate with green crayons if you'd rather not.

 

[Rob Roy]

Prisoner has no option other then starvation. You on the other hand have/had options

True. You could watch while your house is stolen. Oh wait.

 

[UncleBuck]

If a poitical prisoner eats the food he is given by his captors, he is not agreeing to the ideology of the captor is he?

so you complain about the prussian schools and being a slave to property taxes endlessly, yet they schooled your kids instead of you?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

what a fucking hypocrite. and a racist old asshole to boot.

 

[UncleReemis]

I think crayons feel indifferent about being segregated, unlike humans.
Wtf is with your analogies?

 

[UncleBuck]

Still no green crayon? Are you now indifferent to green crayons? It's okay if you are, because nobody should make you associate with green crayons if you'd rather not.

premise 1: racists' denial of service based on skin color caused harm.
premise 2: no one has a right to cause harm, even on their own property.

conclusion: racists' denial of service is not a protected right.

 

[Rob Roy]

so you complain about the prussian schools and being a slave to property taxes endlessly, yet they schooled your kids instead of you?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

what a fucking hypocrite. and a racist old asshole to boot.

Logical fallacy on your part.

Thank you for the green crayon though. I appreciate that you didn't throw it at me or try to force me to use it though.....I really do.

 

[UncleBuck]

Logical fallacy on your part.

Thank you for the green crayon though. I appreciate that you didn't throw it at me or try to force me to use it though.....I really do.

PRUSSIAN SCHOOLS: GOOD ENOUGH FOR RACISTROY'S KIDS

 

[Rob Roy]

I think crayons feel indifferent about being segregated, unlike humans.
Wtf is with your analogies?

Long story. Uncle Gerbil and I have a long history of "debating" . It consists of him refuting arguments with nonsense, so I thought I would shit on his floors for him since he likes those tactics.


As far as being segregated do you feel that people have no right to choose who they will associate with and how they will use their own body and their own property? That human interactions should be decided not by the people involved but by others?

 

[londonfog]

True. You could watch while your house is stolen. Oh wait.

Has nothing to do with my question of public schooling of your child whilst bitching about property tax

 

[Rob Roy]

PRUSSIAN SCHOOLS: GOOD ENOUGH FOR RACISTROY'S KIDS

Careful the yellow crayons will feel neglected.

 

[UncleReemis]

Long story. Uncle Gerbil and I have a long history of "debating" . It consists of him refuting arguments with nonsense, so I thought I would shit on his floors for him since he likes those tactics.


As far as being segregated do you feel that people have no right to choose who they will associate with and how they will use their own body and their own property? That human interactions should be decided not by the people involved but by others?

Do I need to pull some human rights philosphers into this thread too? Guys that are known for sound views on human/natural rights?

In combination with that (which is what Buck was saying earlier about how causing harm is not a protected right), and this:

The Federal Civil Rights Act guarantees all people the right to "full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, without discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin."

...

 

[Rob Roy]

Has nothing to do with my question of public schooling of your child whilst bitching about property tax

A service is not provided when there is an "or else" present. You have confused a service with an edict.