Help my plants look like they have N toxicity

st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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Do a google image search for broad mite damage. I hope that's not the case, but I'd look in to it

Edit: brought any new clones in to your garden recently?
 
Khronickush

Khronickush

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i brought a few clones into my garden a few weeks ago but i sprayed just in case if there was any bugs and i see no bugs on my plants
 
Khronickush

Khronickush

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Some are in sunshine mix and some are In pro mix Hp mycorrhizae I really hope I don't have bugs ): I just sprayed with azamax just to make sure then spinosad in a few days my ladies still have a couple more days before flowering time
 
keysareme

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Just some thoughts; I see what might be heat stress? (inwards curling of outer leafs), 78/79 degrees should be ok though, so?

Does the water you are using have chlorine in it?
 
Taviddude

Taviddude

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You can't see broadmites, but that's what the damage looks like.
What's your runoff PH?
What kind of soil.
Any feeding at all?
What strength feed?
What PH are you feeding at?

Might help you get more accurate answers

Peace
Tav.
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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Heat stress, heat stress, heat stress.......The ambient may be good,,,,,but put your hand at canopy level under the light and see what you feel. Feel hot? Problem! Even brief periods of high heat can really be a problem! Move the light up and add a fan blowing across the plants.
Move the ballast OUT from under the plants!!!!! 4 foot away at least!
Your pH is exactly what it should be!
pH of soil run off is just that, pH of the run off. NOT the pH of the soil!
If you take care of your soil right it will self pH!!!!

I don't see broad mite damage at all....Only oddly enhanced pics...
 
Khronickush

Khronickush

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i haven't feed my girls in a few waterings just water, ill take some better pictures sorry i thought these ones would be okay and my light is over a foot above the canopy i put my hand about where the canopy is and its not to hott at all, i have chlorine in my water but i let the water sit over night with a air stone Ph is 6.5 have not yet had the chance to test my run off but will do, if i so happen to have broad mites how could i treat them
 
Khronickush

Khronickush

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Dr. Who said:
Heat stress, heat stress, heat stress.......The ambient may be good,,,,,but put your hand at canopy level under the light and see what you feel. Feel hot? Problem! Even brief periods of high heat can really be a problem! Move the light up and add a fan blowing across the plants.
Move the ballast OUT from under the plants!!!!! 4 foot away at least!
Your pH is exactly what it should be!
pH of soil run off is just that, pH of the run off. NOT the pH of the soil!
If you take care of your soil right it will self pH!!!!

I don't see broad mite damage at all....Only oddly enhanced pics...
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here are some more pics i did not enhance them or anything , its blue and orange because of my Mh and HPs
 

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st0wandgrow

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Khronickush said:
i haven't feed my girls in a few waterings just water, ill take some better pictures sorry i thought these ones would be okay and my light is over a foot above the canopy i put my hand about where the canopy is and its not to hott at all, i have chlorine in my water but i let the water sit over night with a air stone Ph is 6.5 have not yet had the chance to test my run off but will do, if i so happen to have broad mites how could i treat them
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Do you have a scope? If not, go buy one. You can pick up a 60x-100x hand held scope for $30. Take several leaf samples and inspect them carefully. If you do have broad mites, you can approach it several ways. Rasing the heat in your grow room can help kill them off. Predator mites are an option as well. If these don't work you can go chemical on their asses, but this should be a last resort. These chemicals are toxic, and require you to wear a respirator while spraying and essentially evacuate your house for a while afterward. You can try an organic approach like Azamax, but I have heard that this is not as effective on broad mites as it would be on spider mites.

The next thing I would check (if you don't have broad mites) is ph. Not just the ph of your water/nutrient solution, but the ph of your soil. You can check runoff, but even that isn't necessarily going to give you an accurate result. There are soil test kits, or soil probes that you can pick up to test soil ph. *Most* issues are ph related, imo. They manifest as nutrient deficiencies or lockout, but the problem most often stems from ph ..... especially if you're using a peat based medium, which is very acidic.

Good luck
 
greasemonkeymann

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Khronickush said:
i brought a few clones into my garden a few weeks ago but i sprayed just in case if there was any bugs and i see no bugs on my plants
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I see you "sprayed" I've seen damage like that from a too potent of a spray, what did you use? and are you POSITIVE that it was the correct dosage?
I agree it looks like a burn-type damage, from either heat or, I kinda have a hunch it may be the spray you used....
 
Khronickush

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greasemonkeymann said:
I see you "sprayed" I've seen damage like that from a too potent of a spray, what did you use? and are you POSITIVE that it was the correct dosage?
I agree it looks like a burn-type damage, from either heat or, I kinda have a hunch it may be the spray you used....
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i only did a medium spray on them with azamax i think i seen little white things moveing on the under leaves of the curled ones... so i sprayed then 6 hours latter i sprayed with 6.5 ph water to rinse the azamaz off to not burn them. i read the dosage correctly and it was only a medium spray. i moved the sick looking ones to the front so i can figure out what the hells wrong with them. i have a few other ladies in the same soil and watering schedule so i do not know what is the problem...
 
greasemonkeymann

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Khronickush said:
i only did a medium spray on them with azamax i think i seen little white things moveing on the under leaves of the curled ones... so i sprayed then 6 hours latter i sprayed with 6.5 ph water to rinse the azamaz off to not burn them. i read the dosage correctly and it was only a medium spray. i moved the sick looking ones to the front so i can figure out what the hells wrong with them. i have a few other ladies in the same soil and watering schedule so i do not know what is the problem...
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you are positive that you didn't use too much azamax? it's pretty strong.... I'm only sayin that because to me it really looks like it's from a spray, I've seen the exact type of damage multiple times. Not sayin i'm sure, because it's impossible to be sure, but i'd bet on it.
Side note, don't you need to let the azamax stay on the plant to keep it as a...forget the scientific term...it's anti-feeding attribute? Anti-ovispostry or something, the anti-egg laying property. That's the word I was looking for
 
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keysareme

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To test the pH of your soil, take a decent sample (2 oz or so of soil) and mix that with 2oz of pH 7 water.

Your soils pH will adjust the pH'd 7 water and you will see what the actual pH of your soil is by the difference.

For sure looks like a burn.
 
Dr. Who

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Khronickush said:
here are some more pics i did not enhance them or anything , its blue and orange because of my Mh and HPs
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Take pics under normal lighting after the MH and HPS are out....the cpl of min. needed to take the pics will NOT effect your plant....This is for EVERYONE'S knowledge.
 
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