I did it .......... my waaaaay!!!

MrMeanGreen

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Decided to throw my style out there with a few pics. Ya don't really get the full effetct from the pics as I can't get a wider angle but ya can get the general idea. What you got to remember is that my bud is all the way round, not just the parts facing the light.

Room is 8ft x 8ft x 6ft high. Angles are deceiving, the plants are about 5.5 ft tall and about 3ft wide.

3 stacked 600w cool tubes. Extractor is fitted to the bottom of the stack and now pulls the heat through the floor and down into my kitchen where the warm air exits frow under my kitchen units. This is a clean extraction as inlet comes from outside room and does not need a scrubber.

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I also have a second extractor that scrubs the dirty air from the room and pumps down into my bedroom. If you haven't already worked it out, my room is in the loft. There is also an extra 600w bare bulb outside the ring (you can see it in the back ground) of plants but summer is coming, temps are rising and it just spews to much heat.

Each plants is individually caged which in my opinion is a no brainer, more work to set up but worth it. There are litterally 100 reasons to do this but that for discussion later.

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Each plant is on its own lazy susan /bearing. This was an excellent find, each bearing can hold over 200kg and are available on ebay for just £4.50 each. These give me total access to each and every plant equally and allow for easy rotation, feeding, inspection, maintainance and training. I have just bought a high torque, low rpm motor and intend hooking them up to rotate about once every 5 mins. Rotating manually at the moment but automated will follow. The motor was just £20.

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In hindsight I have made a few errors, training shoud start at the very bottom of the plant. I stripped the bottom 12" which put my lower light out of work pretty much, not alot of green to feed. The same goes for the top of the plant, the main top cola's almost have a light all to themselves, not very efficient I know. Will be topping or super cropping next run to allow the top ring of growth to push up to the top light and maximise efficiency.

My aim next run is to get a 5ft barrel of green on each plant. Could waffle on but too much text is boring, heres a few more pics of plants, 1 week left of 8 but will prob leave a bit longer.

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Slag me off, ask questions, rip me to pieces, I am a stubborn old fuka and welcome it all. :fire:
 

Mt Doo

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Well beautiful set up I hope to get mines to look like that one say

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Maine Buds

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Wow super cool! Love the idea off the automated rotation. I would just have them constantly rotating but super slow. Super frosty bud what strain ?
 

MrMeanGreen

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Looks really yummy! It's your own cross?i like ak and who dosent like lemon flavor!
I'd like to say it was my own, but naah, not my creation.

I was hoping to get some to get some juices flowing about the pro's and con's of static plants and a fixed area tubular grow v's rotating plants and increased surface area. It makes sense to me but maybe almost tripling your grow area might not be the way forward.
 

Mt Doo

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Sorry I was looking at the thread and walked away from my phone and my son got to it.

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cat of curiosity

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This is my first run with this specific set up. The 2 in the pics are coming down in about a week so will let you know but I am hoping for 7-8 oz per plant. If my memory serves me right, I vegged for about 3.5 weeks.
very nice. i'm watching this thread to see the end result.
 
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lickalotapus

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Very intesting,I love the idea of rotating plants ,,
I'm on my first vert grow now ,4 northern lights around a 250w mh ,soon to be around a 600 with a screen
 

ttystikk

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This is very intriguing, because of course we all know a plant doesn't need direct light all the time to produce well; the sun moves, progressively exposing various parts of the plant to light and shade throughout every day. The only exception is when cloud cover is thick enough to fully diffuse light from the sun.

I went a different direction; instead of rotating my plants, I've trained them to look like radar dishes, with the lamp/s at their focal point. This gives me ideal coverage and intensity but of course the back side suffers- and gets stripped to minimize this.

If your approach means less larf removal, I'm very interested. OTOH, if there's a big dead spot inside the plant and the whole thing fails to weigh, we're back to square one on light rotation. After all, this IS still light rotation; you're just rotating the plant instead of the light.
 

MrMeanGreen

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This is very intriguing, because of course we all know a plant doesn't need direct light all the time to produce well; the sun moves, progressively exposing various parts of the plant to light and shade throughout every day. The only exception is when cloud cover is thick enough to fully diffuse light from the sun.

I went a different direction; instead of rotating my plants, I've trained them to look like radar dishes, with the lamp/s at their focal point. This gives me ideal coverage and intensity but of course the back side suffers- and gets stripped to minimize this.

If your approach means less larf removal, I'm very interested. OTOH, if there's a big dead spot inside the plant and the whole thing fails to weigh, we're back to square one on light rotation. After all, this IS still light rotation; you're just rotating the plant instead of the light.
Well it's down now, gimmi a few days and I can lay some numbers down.

In aswer to your question on dead spots, I stripped everything out from the cage back to the main stem, I wanted to maximise air flow and minimise popcorn. No internal dead spots.

The latter half of flowering they started to show signs of bleaching, they were only about 8 inches from the bulb. This
makes me feel a constant but slow rotation would ease this problem. The quarter turn daily just wasn't enough.

Just need to get my finger out of my arse, get my thinking cap on and work out how I am going to link my pots up and motorise the rotation on 6 plants.

I have given up on the perpetual element for the next grow, mother nature and changing seasons / temps etc just fooks all the timing up and plants just aint where they are meant to be when I need them to be. Alot of wasted light this grow but we live and learn. New girls are now in and just had the final repot. Will post some periodic pics to show start to finish.
 

MrMeanGreen

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The results are in. 9 oz off each plant, will prob lose another half oz burping over next few days.. I am not comparing penis size here so don't go gettin fruity. I am sticking with this method for a while and see what happens wihtout the mistakes and a few tweaks.
 

MrMeanGreen

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I thought the automated rotation was going to be a proper ball ache, mainly around mounting the motor and transfering the torque / rotation to the plants. Turned out to be a breeze in the end. Decided rotating each pot individually was the way to go, far to complicated hooking all 6 pots upto 1 motor.

I a not going to lie, I am pretty stoked about how this all worked out, construction was litterally half a dozen screws and a few scraps of wood.

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A piece of 18mm ply (approx 10x6 inches). The bearing is screwed down on the left. The motor is 6v 3 RPM and geared for high torque. I dropped the voltage to 3v and it now does 1 revelution every 5.5 minutes. It is mounted on 2 x 2inch pieces of dowel with a soft tyre wheel attatched to the prop shaft. Having kids that love to pull their toy cars to bits has its advantages.

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Here's a close up to show how the wheel and motor is mounted.

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Next I dropped the pot drip tray onto the bearing, centred it and drove a screw through middle to keep everything in place. The wheel now pushes up tight to the tray.

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Finally on goes a pot, the heaviest I could find was about 15kg but the bearing can handle upto 280kg and the motor didn't bat an eye. I have just installed the first prototype in my flower room and it works a treat. The whole thing, not including the power source cost just over £10 and took no more than 15 mins to put together.

Considering my my last grow and ony turning 1/4 a day manually, I have high expectations for this addition.

Another bonuses with this setup that I forgot to mention is harvest and trimming

I keep my sweet leaf, love the oil. Stripping the fan leaves takes seconds, the extra support the plant has from the cage allows you to yank em off without damaging the plant and being able to rotate the plant also speeds trimming up loads.

each plant has its own cage so as you harvest and trim your branch, you simply hang the branch you just trimmed back on the cage where it came from. No need for webs of string all over the place to hang ya bud. And with the automated rotation still running it shoud give improved air circulation,a more consistant and equal dry.

Just gorra wait for the rest of the motors now, unfortunatley they come on the slow boat from china so takes a week or so:wall:
 
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