The UK Growers Thread!

The Yorkshireman

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I hope thats not a motorbike frame you are taking a fucking angle grinder to? Get it shot blasted as the welds arent fantastic on a lot of bikes n ya dont wanna take more off with a grinder lol
Yeah, it's only to take the surface rust off, slight grind and then wire brush attachment.
It's not bad enough that I need to go daft with it, just a cleanup.

As a bonus though my advising mechanic is the guy who looked after Dougie Lampkins kit when he was a lad.
Official Honda mech for 35years he was, works out of his shed/garage at home now he's knocking on.
He keeps egging me on to bore the 125cc lump up to 175cc and rejet it, lol.
He's still a hooligan pushing 60 years old!
 

The Yorkshireman

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Yeah def get it shotblasted, cost less than £70, then whack some supermoto wheels n tyres on it an a tuned YZ/YZ-F125 lump in it with an overbore kit
It's getting a full supermoto conversion.

The DTR lump is better than a YZ though, the YZ/YZ-F is a race engine with a close ratio.
Belting torque but no staying power and needs a top-end rebuild everytime you sneeze.

Mine is a jap spec import, fully derestricted with working ypvs (limited production) and a Dep silencer.
I've got a Big One chrome expansion chamber to go on the front.

When it's finished ( :roll: ) it'll do 0-60 in about 5sec and pull to 100mph.
It does 0-60 in about 7 secs now and pulls to about 85mph.

That's if it stays a 125cc and I don't go all 175 crazy, lol.
 

Saerimmner

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Yeah, it's only to take the surface rust off, slight grind and then wire brush attachment.
It's not bad enough that I need to go daft with it, just a cleanup.

As a bonus though my advising mechanic is the guy who looked after Dougie Lampkins kit when he was a lad.
Official Honda mech for 35years he was, works out of his shed/garage at home now he's knocking on.
He keeps egging me on to bore the 125cc lump up to 175cc and rejet it, lol.
He's still a hooligan pushing 60 years old!
Then give him the bike n a wad of money n let him get the fuck on with it then lmao

I have never kept a single bike ive owned standard lol, fuck 18 years ago i had TZR125 an we put a HPE racing lump in it from a track bike, went from 11 bhp to over 40 and would terrorise R1`s/Fireblades etc thru the country lanes

honestly if it was my bike id give it to him n ask him to put a tuned 4 stroke lump from the YZF125 in it....something along the lines of.....

175-201cc overbore kit
Engine fully blueprinted & valves re-ground to a 3 angle seat
Ported/polished and gas flowed head
high lift & duration camshaft
Aftermarket exhaust (Yoshimura/Akropovic preferably)
Blueprinted and polished carburettor with larger jets
K&N air filter in modified airbox( not the cone filters that replace the airbox)
Different size front n rear cogs to fit in with engine mods

Oh and I nearly forgot....All hail dougie lampkin lol
 

The Yorkshireman

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Then give him the bike n a wad of money n let him get the fuck on with it then lmao

I have never kept a single bike ive owned standard lol, fuck 18 years ago i had TZR125 an we put a HPE racing lump in it from a track bike, went from 11 bhp to over 40 and would terrorise R1`s/Fireblades etc thru the country lanes

honestly if it was my bike id give it to him n ask him to put a tuned 4 stroke lump from the YZF125 in it....something along the lines of.....

175-201cc overbore kit
Engine fully blueprinted & valves re-ground to a 3 angle seat
Ported/polished and gas flowed head
high lift & duration camshaft
Aftermarket exhaust (Yoshimura/Akropovic preferably)
Blueprinted and polished carburettor with larger jets
K&N air filter in modified airbox( not the cone filters that replace the airbox)
Different size front n rear cogs to fit in with engine mods
The YZF is a 250cc 4 stroke crosser.
The YZF-R is a 125cc 4 stroke sports bike.

If I could afford to do that 250cc 4 stroke conversion and the work I'd just pass my test, buy something like a DR400 and still save money.

If your suggesting dropping the 125cc 4 stroke lump in instead of the 125cc 2 stroke it has then you need a slap rimmer...:lol:
 

Saerimmner

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The YZF is a 250cc 4 stroke crosser.
The YZF-R is a 125cc 4 stroke sports bike.

If I could afford to do that 250cc 4 stroke conversion and the work I'd just pass my test, buy something like a DR400 and still save money.

If your suggesting dropping the 125cc 4 stroke lump in instead of the 125cc 2 stroke it has then you need a slap rimmer...:lol:
either the YZF-R from the road bike or on the USA you can get a 125 4 stroke crosser engine for the YZF, very rare but they do exist

Or keep the 2 banger n get a N20 kit for it, works btter on 2 stroke engines than anything else
 

Saerimmner

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The man's a genius bike mechanic but at £25 an hour for labour I'm doing as much of it myself as I can.
honestly mate save up the money n let him do it, mate of mine had a similar attitude with his Escort Mexico, tried doing a lot of the work himself to save money n car was good but not great, eventually got pissed off with it n saved up then went to HPE n had his engine done by Jeff Harris n now its absolutely bulletproof, kicking out another 43bhp over when he did it and will light the wheels up in any gear lol
 

The Yorkshireman

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honestly mate save up the money n let him do it, mate of mine had a similar attitude with his Escort Mexico, tried doing a lot of the work himself to save money n car was good but not great, eventually got pissed off with it n saved up then went to HPE n had his engine done by Jeff Harris n now its absolutely bulletproof, kicking out another 43bhp over when he did it and will light the wheels up in any gear lol
We are talking about a single cylinder 2 stroke engine mate, how much fucking power do you think it can produce!?
It's already the best 125cc engine ever made maxed out, a rebore would be the only thing that would make a difference to what it can do now.
 

welshwizzard

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How many teenage girls do you know that go through $300 of make up in a year?

Scratch that, how many grown women do you know who use $300 worth of make up in a couple of years?

To put it into perspective Mac and Bobby Brown are about the best make ups you can buy and kids are not buying it, they buy the cheap couple of quid stuff.
Foundation is £25 ish and lipsticks are about £5-£8.
Foundation lasts about 3 months is used 5 days a week and lipsticks last a good 4 months.

Now turn the $300 unit sale price (before makeup inks) into actual shop bought makeup purchases.
A couple of years till the unit has even paid for itself as the only thing it gives is convenience.
[simpsons] Classic moment makeupgun.jpg
 

welshwizzard

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Fuck me that was a close call........HGV full of guns got ripped off a few towns over and firearms unit just turnt up in our block of flats demanding to search every flat in the block as they have had intelligence someone is holding some of the guns in here, with a combination of demanding a warrant before they enter n flashing my military ID have managed to fuck em off but not happy as they are still wandering around in the block...........not fucking good for my nerves goddammit
There was a popo chopper over near my other house last night, well, 3 am this morning when I took dog before work. Sly bastards. Think they were after a driver though the way it was moving.

Still not nice!

Be well arsed with them demanding shit, they can fuck off!
 

Saerimmner

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We are talking about a single cylinder 2 stroke engine mate, how much fucking power do you think it can produce!?
It's already the best 125cc engine ever made maxed out, a rebore would be the only thing that would make a difference to what it can do now.
Well they come with around 11 HP, you can easily get the 2 banger up over 25 n the 4 banger up to around 35, just depends on how much money you want to spend to achieve it lol, if ur gonna keep it as a 2 banger why not look at a race tuned YZ lump from a crosser
 

The Yorkshireman

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Well they come with around 11 HP, you can easily get the 2 banger up over 25 n the 4 banger up to around 35, just depends on how much money you want to spend to achieve it lol, if ur gonna keep it as a 2 banger why not look at a race tuned YZ lump from a crosser
Because like I've said the DTR lump is a better/faster lump than the YZ one.
The DTR lump is the best 125cc lump ever made, there's nothing else that can touch it.
A Jap spec DTR sits at 33hp if derestricted and that's without really any mods.

The YZ lump is designed for racing so it has no topspeed power, the YZ also has a much smaller/lighter frame than the DTR.

The thing to do really is put a DTR lump into a lighter (road legal) YZ frame and then tune it accordingly.
I have thought about the upside down forks from a YZ 250 on the DTR though, upside down forks look cool.
 
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Saerimmner

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Because like I've said the DTR lump is a better/faster lump than the YZ one.
The DTR lump is the best 125cc lump ever made, there's nothing else that can touch it.
A Jap import DTR sits at 33hp if derestricted and that's without really any mods.

The YZ lump is designed for racing so it has no topspeed power, the YZ also has a much smaller/lighter frame than the DTR.

The thing to do really is put a DTR lump into a lighter (road legal) YZ frame and then tune it accordingly.
I have thought about the upside down forks from a YZ 250 on the DTR though, upside down forks look cool.

Because like I've said the DTR lump is a better/faster lump than the YZ one.
The DTR lump is the best 125cc lump ever made, there's nothing else that can touch it.
A Jap spec DTR sits at 33hp if derestricted and that's without really any mods.

The YZ lump is designed for racing so it has no topspeed power, the YZ also has a much smaller/lighter frame than the DTR.

The thing to do really is put a DTR lump into a lighter (road legal) YZ frame and then tune it accordingly.
I have thought about the upside down forks from a YZ 250 on the DTR though, upside down forks look cool.
You may even find upside down forks for it from either XT/DR/YZ 125 or something similar, at the end of the day providing the mounting hole in the frame is same size you could probably fit upside downs from any manufacturer providing you get the yokes as well
 

The Yorkshireman

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You may even find upside down forks for it from either XT/DR/YZ 125 or something similar, at the end of the day providing the mounting hole in the frame is same size you could probably fit upside downs from any manufacturer providing you get the yokes as well
It's making the wheels fit as well that's tricky (otherwise speedo and mileage is out), the back wheel has to fit in the DTR swingarm.
 

R3l@X

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LMAO, i love doing this kinda shit, get the fuckers all tongue tied n frustrated n nearly give em a breakdown lol
Wish we had that many laws protecting us over here! If a garda thinks the laws being broken then can walk right in,no warrant needed.
 
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