BHO with Vacuum oil/wax tutorial
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Sirdabsalot462
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@ goalie...
You blasted into the dish, and vac'd the same dish right?
If the oil was difficult to remove from the glass after the vac purge, it probably wasn't quite ready to collect...
Also, when doing this tech (using a dish to blast into and placing the whole dish into the chamber) you want to let the dish come back to about room temp and settle..
Then I usually can use my dabber, and pry one side of the patty up and it always peels off in one piece..
Sticky oil is usually under or over purged..
The mysterious wonders of lady cannabis' essential oils.
Oh..the days and days of pulling my hair out trying to obtain purrrdy extracts...lol
It will come in due time, I promise..
I'm sure most all of us, had some very very frustrating extractions.
It just takes practice..
Buy a small tube and do a butt-load of 5-7 gram runs...perfect your tech on a small scale first..
You blasted into the dish, and vac'd the same dish right?
If the oil was difficult to remove from the glass after the vac purge, it probably wasn't quite ready to collect...
Also, when doing this tech (using a dish to blast into and placing the whole dish into the chamber) you want to let the dish come back to about room temp and settle..
Then I usually can use my dabber, and pry one side of the patty up and it always peels off in one piece..
Sticky oil is usually under or over purged..
The mysterious wonders of lady cannabis' essential oils.
Oh..the days and days of pulling my hair out trying to obtain purrrdy extracts...lol
It will come in due time, I promise..
I'm sure most all of us, had some very very frustrating extractions.
It just takes practice..
Buy a small tube and do a butt-load of 5-7 gram runs...perfect your tech on a small scale first..
Ya man, i hear you on that, and i actually dropped 200 bux on a convection toaster that said it could go as low as 120F but when i got it home even the 120F setting wouldnt go lower than 160... piece of shit! So i returned it.
Am on the hunt now for a toaster that can go low and control temps and keep stable (guessing convection)
Correct, i blasted into a really small pyrex dish and put that dish right into the vac chamber.
I thought that maybe it wasnt ready to collect but i had this impression that it was never going to come off the pyrex cleanly without scraping it. Maybe i was just being hasty.
Dang you getting the patty up in one piece makes me want to try again lol!
If i wasn't going bald i'd be pulling my hair out now too bro, instead i just get frustrated and bitch!
I'm not quitting, just need to slow down because this is gettnig really expensive buynig zips for 200 just to try to turn into oil then failing and wasting my material.
the tube i have from vapetool dot com is the smallest one they sell which is 3/4″x6″ and i can pack 14g of material in there. From what i understand only 7 in there would be a waste and not extract properly cuz of the big air space - so where can i get something for a small 5-7g run? that would be sweet.
Sirdabsalot462
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First option (cheapest also)Correct, i blasted into a really small pyrex dish and put that dish right into the vac chamber.
I thought that maybe it wasnt ready to collect but i had this impression that it was never going to come off the pyrex cleanly without scraping it. Maybe i was just being hasty.
Dang you getting the patty up in one piece makes me want to try again lol!
If i wasn't going bald i'd be pulling my hair out now too bro, instead i just get frustrated and bitch!
I'm not quitting, just need to slow down because this is gettnig really expensive buynig zips for 200 just to try to turn into oil then failing and wasting my material.
the tube i have from vapetool dot com is the smallest one they sell which is 3/4″x6″ and i can pack 14g of material in there. From what i understand only 7 in there would be a waste and not extract properly cuz of the big air space - so where can i get something for a small 5-7g run? that would be sweet.
Go to Bed Bath & Beyond and in the cooking section, they carry Stainless Steel Turkey Basters * SSTB*
Depending on how hard you pack...
I've done as little as 6 grams up to about 12-14..
*packed REALLY hard and right*
a perfect pack is about 8-9 grams.
Costs less than 10$
Or, my first extraction tube was a a glass tube with ¾” ID was about 25$ at the local HS.
^ I loved that tube,, I let some fucker borrow it and haven't seen it in a year.
Brown coffee filters and/or SS scrubbers can be used to fill empty space also.
Hope this helps bud.
Guzias1
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so I couldn't locate the contributors thread. Kind of nervous . Getting all 4 wisdoms pulled @ age 24 .
thought this day would never come.
the scariest part is all the drugs they've prescribed me... I've had experience with oxy and ibprobin. But on very limited occasions.. Them things are hard on me.
soooo.. Just happened . I feel quite interesting , haven't hit the oxy yet . Hoping a medicinal med hells numb the pain rather than oxi and ib...
soooo many drugs. Them pharmacies must be rockin in the dough ..
wishe luck guys!
thought this day would never come.
the scariest part is all the drugs they've prescribed me... I've had experience with oxy and ibprobin. But on very limited occasions.. Them things are hard on me.
soooo.. Just happened . I feel quite interesting , haven't hit the oxy yet . Hoping a medicinal med hells numb the pain rather than oxi and ib...
soooo many drugs. Them pharmacies must be rockin in the dough ..
wishe luck guys!
Well first im going to check bed bath and beyond, thanks for this tip, hopefully our canadian ones have the same stainless steel turkey basters.
For the brown coffee filters to fill space, do they go at the end where you stick the butane tip and do you just squish em up in there? then put the material?
Sirdabsalot462
Well-Known Member
Pretty much brotha ...just wad them up and pack at the same density level you would for a regular run...works perfect.
First, make sure you buy the correct baster..
The one you want, looks exactly like a regular turkey baster, except it's stainless steel.
Do not buy the one that has a pump, looks like a GIANT syringe. This is not a baster.
The only reason I throw that warning out, it's because, I almost bought the wrong one, because if you have ever been there..
The place is huge with MANY items packed into small sections...
Also, buy your torch there .... It's the same exact torch as the Vector Nitro, but it's a creme brulee torch, only cost under 30$.
While the Nitro runs about 70$.
They have Silplats there also,(cooking version of the Oil Slick) but it's not rated for blasting at all, but works as a sub for Parchment.
They got bad ass hotplates too.. They carry the Nu-wave induction cook-top.
*controls temps VERY accurately at 100°,110.. 10° increments.
That place is for dabbers..
They just don't realize it..
Sirdabsalot462
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Fuck bro, sorry to hear this.
Pain fucking sucks (particularly dental pain)..fuck that's some of the most miserable pains I've experienced, dental issues.
Do your best brotha...
Don't be afraid you will get” hooked” bro..
Just take it to relive your pain, and NOTHING else.
That's the problem with these drugs, doctors don't explain the nature of the drug and it's potential for SERIOUS addiction problems.
They simply write the script, and say..
” take every 4-6 hours” prn
” as needed for pain”
If the dangers of the drug were explained, more people would make a wiser decision on how they approach pain meds.
When the pain is overwhelming, take one and dab to sleep...this will break ” the chain” per se..
Don't suffer, while you got relief in a bottle, just use it wisely.
Hope you feel better bro!
HAhahahahahahahahahahaha. Dude that was awesome. I will check this induction cook top thing you are talkign about, and maybe if its not too pricey... also check out convection toasters hmmPretty much brotha ...just wad them up and pack at the same density level you would for a regular run...works perfect.
First, make sure you buy the correct baster..
The one you want, looks exactly like a regular turkey baster, except it's stainless steel.
Do not buy the one that has a pump, looks like a GIANT syringe. This is not a baster.
The only reason I throw that warning out, it's because, I almost bought the wrong one, because if you have ever been there..
The place is huge with MANY items packed into small sections...
Also, buy your torch there .... It's the same exact torch as the Vector Nitro, but it's a creme brulee torch, only cost under 30$.
While the Nitro runs about 70$.
They have Silplats there also,(cooking version of the Oil Slick) but it's not rated for blasting at all, but works as a sub for Parchment.
They got bad ass hotplates too.. They carry the Nu-wave induction cook-top.
*controls temps VERY accurately at 100°,110.. 10° increments.
That place is for dabbers..
They just don't realize it..
AlaskaHashMan
Active Member
Hey guys, holy crap one root canal and I was in so much pain. I ended up getting a second 16count script of vicodin, had the work done on Monday and I still woke up in pain last night.
It's great how helpful everyone is being. It's the way that things are supposed to be with medicine and information as a whole.
I can tell you from experience that you don't want to lose that little injector adapter that comes with the SSTB from BB&B. I did lose mine and have to buy another kit (cheap) to get the adapter so I can use my tube. I only got one run out of mine before I lost the tube adapter.
I'm going to get another today and that will give me an additional tube. I guess I can pack them both with same type of ganja, maybe just pack one tighter than the other and blast them both see if I get the same yield percentage.
Which brings me to my only real problem and that's my yield is so freaking low. I'm stuck between the reality that my best yield so far is no more than 10%, I'm willing to accept that the strains I'm working with aren't going to give 20+ % return even for straight stick icky icky nuggs, but I can't/won't believe that 10% is max. Either I'm nowhere near reaching peak efficiency or I've been in Ak way to long and the medical strains you guys are using are several times more potent than our cream of the crop. I've been smoking 15+ years and the strain I grow now is the cat meow IMHO. I'm loading a couple of pics to PB although they don't do it justice. It's getting to a place where I need to achieve better efficiency, how do I do this?
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Thanks for your opinions. I will keep you updated. Also I'm ball deep in my first ? scrog/sog I'll try to write up something on that relating to over water in Grodan cubes.
It's great how helpful everyone is being. It's the way that things are supposed to be with medicine and information as a whole.
I can tell you from experience that you don't want to lose that little injector adapter that comes with the SSTB from BB&B. I did lose mine and have to buy another kit (cheap) to get the adapter so I can use my tube. I only got one run out of mine before I lost the tube adapter.
I'm going to get another today and that will give me an additional tube. I guess I can pack them both with same type of ganja, maybe just pack one tighter than the other and blast them both see if I get the same yield percentage.
Which brings me to my only real problem and that's my yield is so freaking low. I'm stuck between the reality that my best yield so far is no more than 10%, I'm willing to accept that the strains I'm working with aren't going to give 20+ % return even for straight stick icky icky nuggs, but I can't/won't believe that 10% is max. Either I'm nowhere near reaching peak efficiency or I've been in Ak way to long and the medical strains you guys are using are several times more potent than our cream of the crop. I've been smoking 15+ years and the strain I grow now is the cat meow IMHO. I'm loading a couple of pics to PB although they don't do it justice. It's getting to a place where I need to achieve better efficiency, how do I do this?
Thanks for your opinions. I will keep you updated. Also I'm ball deep in my first ? scrog/sog I'll try to write up something on that relating to over water in Grodan cubes.
AlaskaHashMan
Active Member
Shit my photobucket links not working?
Well i went to BBB and found the stainless steel turkey baster... i bought it, but its basically the same size inside as my tube that fits 14g material, not real small for 7g like i was hoping! Couldnt find any induction cook tops tho
doubletake
Well-Known Member
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have u been using this bad boy Guz?and thennnn
Guzias1
Well-Known Member
I did pretty happily. But unfortunately . I do not have a freezer big enough to fit this rig.. So I've ended reverting to just single tubes..
I prefer to freeze my material above all now, before blasting..
helps with older material.
this thing would be once again awesome if I had the freezer space..
I prefer to freeze my material above all now, before blasting..
helps with older material.
this thing would be once again awesome if I had the freezer space..
Thanks a ton! Just got my first batch to comb. Although it took a while to get things figured out. My temps are almost 10° higher for each step. My guess is my altitude. I'm at 5200ft. I know altitude affects full vac, but also looks like it affects at what temp things happen. Only question I have is when do I know its done? It weighs 8g now and started waxing about 8-9 hours ago. To me it looks fully waxed now, but how do you tell?
Sirdabsalot462
Well-Known Member
You will develop a natural instinct to when your product is finished pmpmstrb.
It will take some time, but you will get there.
Until then.
Visually, Honey comb can be deceptive, but you don't want it looking ” wet”... Greasy wet is okay.
But it should have a powerful aroma, you should be able to touch the Honeycomb, without it sticking to your fingers.
As with most solvent based extractions, a sticky texture is an indicator of under-purged or over-purged oil.
The flame test:
Not very accurate, but meh..
It will work.
Get some on a dabber and put some flame close to the oil...
It should melt instantly, and should not sparkle like the Sparklers on the 4th of July.
Post some pics.
Congratulations on your first Comb sesh.
Welcome to the C&E section.
It will take some time, but you will get there.
Until then.
Visually, Honey comb can be deceptive, but you don't want it looking ” wet”... Greasy wet is okay.
But it should have a powerful aroma, you should be able to touch the Honeycomb, without it sticking to your fingers.
As with most solvent based extractions, a sticky texture is an indicator of under-purged or over-purged oil.
The flame test:
Not very accurate, but meh..
It will work.
Get some on a dabber and put some flame close to the oil...
It should melt instantly, and should not sparkle like the Sparklers on the 4th of July.
Post some pics.
Congratulations on your first Comb sesh.
Welcome to the C&E section.
AlaskaHashMan
Active Member
I'm sorry I haven't posted in awhile. I find myself being a selfish taker with RIU, I post for help, new interesting topics, or ways of doing things. However once " I get the hang of things" I disappear.
I'll throw a few pics up later of my latest go around, however life is pretty good up here. I'm only using concentrates, and so are my closest friends. Mostly I've been doing weekly runs of broken bud chunks, between 25 and 30 grams a pop. Sometimes using my glass extractor to get all in one shot, other times dividing and conquering in SSTB runs of 7-10g. SSTB is nice cause I can really dial in the load and not worry about internal pressure. But the last time I ran my glass extractor(last night) yield looked good. Hard to judge because it's all new material.
Running the SSTB with 7g of my super primo super dense "Caswell" I got 1.2g.
Still using a toaster oven, BestValu Vac's was out of stock the size I wanted and now I'm determined not to get it broke off in my arse on the shipping so a slight delay there.
I picked up 1lb 14oz last night of some pretty good trim. I think I should probably build that 2x4 grinder because this is a lot and I'm thinking it needs to be broken up a little.
Thanks for all your help everybody. I'm really pleased with all the help and I know that I wouldn't be making anything close to the quality I am with out all the advise. The sample from CO and WA some friends brought back wasn't that much better than mine.
I'll throw a few pics up later of my latest go around, however life is pretty good up here. I'm only using concentrates, and so are my closest friends. Mostly I've been doing weekly runs of broken bud chunks, between 25 and 30 grams a pop. Sometimes using my glass extractor to get all in one shot, other times dividing and conquering in SSTB runs of 7-10g. SSTB is nice cause I can really dial in the load and not worry about internal pressure. But the last time I ran my glass extractor(last night) yield looked good. Hard to judge because it's all new material.
Running the SSTB with 7g of my super primo super dense "Caswell" I got 1.2g.
Still using a toaster oven, BestValu Vac's was out of stock the size I wanted and now I'm determined not to get it broke off in my arse on the shipping so a slight delay there.
I picked up 1lb 14oz last night of some pretty good trim. I think I should probably build that 2x4 grinder because this is a lot and I'm thinking it needs to be broken up a little.
Thanks for all your help everybody. I'm really pleased with all the help and I know that I wouldn't be making anything close to the quality I am with out all the advise. The sample from CO and WA some friends brought back wasn't that much better than mine.