Hpa
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No benefits? I would not agree. Maybe expensive and complicated to set up but definitely worth it. Its not for everyone.
Less water usage, better control, great to use in a Drain-To-Waste system hence stable reservoir Ph and TDS... super fast growth, short internode length...the list goes on.
Just check G-love's grow journal on the other forum and tell me that that getting 1.6 kilos from about 120cm x 120cm space is not EPIC.
But to each their own.
Less water usage, better control, great to use in a Drain-To-Waste system hence stable reservoir Ph and TDS... super fast growth, short internode length...the list goes on.
Just check G-love's grow journal on the other forum and tell me that that getting 1.6 kilos from about 120cm x 120cm space is not EPIC.
But to each their own.
hey i must have missed it where was g love discredited. and how?
tikitoker
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I have to agree with petflora above, HPA is great, but each grower will get differing results and it is all based on the environment. The system is way too touchy and needs too much adjusting for a novice. I have all the automation you could have for a growroom (except light movers) and I just like petflora, have re-thought my pure breed HPA, and turned it hybrid. Now I run 27gallon HDX Tubs with LPA 3/4" sch 40 pvc sprayer lines running through each tub ( spraying straight down to the floor) with HPA jets in the top corners. The jets dont directly hit the roots, it just creates a rolling aerosol within the tub. Then to finish it, I have incorporated a recirculating shallow water culure system by elevating the tubs and installing 3/4" ebb n flow drain kit.
I love it and I now have 3 different grow styles all in 1 system. And I can use all 3 at once or just 1, it's all up to me and give me the most versatility. Plus I like that I can put seeds in the system and not have to top water or top feed the seedlings until the roots get down to the water line.
I love it and I now have 3 different grow styles all in 1 system. And I can use all 3 at once or just 1, it's all up to me and give me the most versatility. Plus I like that I can put seeds in the system and not have to top water or top feed the seedlings until the roots get down to the water line.
tikitoker
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you clearly don't know much, if anything, about HPA.
hammer21
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What I am saying is a 15 micron mist is used to capture oxygen molecules to achieve max
Oxygen saturation in your mist ( nutrient solution ) or you can use a 60 or larger mist with a air stone or a air injector to also achieve max oxygen saturation with the same results water will only hold so much oxygen once you reached that thresh hold it does not matter if you spray with a garden hose or a fine mister. Think about what you say before you say it.
hammer21
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Pet put that joint down. I'm not smelling what your stepping in. Please explain in technical terms.i can understand your theory using a solution that does not move it will separate over a extended period of time but not a moving mixture using a mister or pump bonding the molecules together.
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PetFlora
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I'm talking about the particle size of the mist that comes out of an hpa nozzle.
This is an hpa thread right?
Anyway, Oxygen is a gas. Nutrients are solids converted to liquids- not a gas. They are heavier and will fall out of suspension when droplets are > 30 microns
Oxygen plays an important role (I love my modified bubble system with mega O2), I am seeing evidence that Oxygen appears to be super-charging my nutes.
Come by my thread to see why
What's important to optimizing results is the bio-availability of the nutes to the roots.
HPA does not have a patent on that, or cotton candy root balls
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hammer21
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Oxygen plays an important role (I love my modified bubble system with mega O2), I am seeing evidence that Oxygen appears to be super-charging my nutes.
This statement is correct it's all about oxygen saturation. When you achieve the max oxygen saturation it does not matter on micron size of mist or spray you will achieve the same result.
This statement is correct it's all about oxygen saturation. When you achieve the max oxygen saturation it does not matter on micron size of mist or spray you will achieve the same result.
pazuzu420
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I have been looking to upgrade to HPA myself but have a hard time leaving behind my LPA system that is proven. I also use the same HDX tubs (sturdy, black tub, easy cleaning) and have run my spray heads up and down and now use a mix of both with a decent inline pump which gives an adequate spray. Super fast growth in veg...almost astonishing. Have to post some recent pics since the move.
panhead
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Back to the op's question Hp growing is just far too complicated , way too expensive , way too touchy , too many components in the system , too dependant on 100% perfect system operation , most off all the plants are at risk of quick death if there is a system failure , most experienced hydroponic growers end up with their own customized style that eleminates problems , I myself run a modified system that incoporates flood & drain , DWC & HPA , this allows me to have a total pump failure or mister clogs with zero ill effects on the plants for 5 or 6 days , straight HPA is an over built & over complicated system for the benifits offered .