Perpetual Grow - DWC/Waterfarm 432wT5 Veg, 600w HPS Flower

[duudical]

Got a perpetual grow started. Currently have a 8x4x6.5 tent I use as a flowering room with a 600w HPS. I recently installed a 4'-8-bulb T5HO (432w). I also keep all my seedlings, clones and smaller plants under a 2'-4-bulb T5HO.

Strains currently going in flower:
(5) Humboldt Seeds Blue Dream
(1) G13 Pineapple Express

Strains currently in veg:
Reserva Privada Sour Diesel x 3
Humboldt Seeds Bubba Kush
THSeeds Sage'n'Sour
Clones of Bubba Kush, SourD, THSeeds Sage n' Sour
Seeds sprouting: Trainwreck, Amherst Sour D, Desert Diesel, Dr. Greenthumb's EMdog, G13 Purple Haze, G13 Gigabud, Delicious Seeds Sugar Black Rose

Nutes:
Veg - Currently H&G Aqua Flakes A+B (moving to Heavy 16 once out of the H&G), Growtastic EPG, Dutch Master Gold Zone, Orca, Soul Synthetics Grow-N (when needed), Silica
Bud - Heavy 16 Bud A+B, Growtastic EPG, Dutch Master Gold Zone, Orca, Duch Master Potash+

Method: Have some plants in coco, but most are in 5-Gal DWC buckets, one of which I have fitted with the water farm kit as a test. If I see better results I will mod all my buckets to be WF setups.

My goal is to get small plants going and move them into the larger veg area to get med-large and then have 4 med-large plants at all times in the tent, just rotating them out when they are ready. Definitely going to be awhile before I can get to where I want, but things are looking up and I am excited about.

Here are some current pics.

The Pineapple Express is going to chill her last week under the LED just for the hell of it. She is at 8 weeks into flower and smells just like Fruit Stripe gum. We have sampled her and she is really nice smoke too...can't wait to see how she rounds out this last week. Continuing to let her dry out really well and then flushing her with water pH'd to 5.8. This plant has been beautiful and strong since sprouting. Would definitely recommend.



Here is the bloom tent with the BD's and the PE:



Here is the veg area with a couple of SourD's and a Bubba Kush.



I'll get some pics of the babies up once all the little seeds pop. But here is their area:



Peace.

 

[buzworthy]

I'm still here for the ride

 

[duudical]

I'm still here for the ride

Nice! So stoked to have you along still

 

[821ent]

Nice forum, I see some of the same strains im about to start up... looking forward to seeing your updates on them good luck with it all.

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[eastcoastmo]

Fark man you got some nice buds there bro you got your grows down pat mate!

 

[jennitallwart]

Great perpetual grow setup!
Kudos on LSTing in the smartpots-great concept
You will enjoy the rapid growth of DWC with the WF .

Are your Bubba Kush clones the pre-98 strain?
Really looking forward to watching that Gigabud and Black Sugar Rose!
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[821ent]

Yup yup

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[821ent]

I love that pre 98 bubba my favorite

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[duudical]

This Blue Dream is from HSO. I think theirs is a Blueberry x Haze. It definitely smells super fruity and sweet. I know there are much more renowned and closer to the original Blueberry's out there like DJ Short, etc. But this one grew really well and definitely leans more towards the sativa side without being too-hazy and needing 13+ weeks or something. Although I might let one just go until I see a bunch of amber trichs and see what that's like. So far the BD I have grown so far has been pretty cerebral and racy.

 

[duudical]

Great perpetual grow setup!
Kudos on LSTing in the smartpots-great concept
You will enjoy the rapid growth of DWC with the WF .

Are your Bubba Kush clones the pre-98 strain?
Really looking forward to watching that Gigabud and Black Sugar Rose!
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Thanks man. This is Bubba Kush from HSO. It was a freebie from some Attitude promotion. Never grew anything Bubba Kush before so I have nothing to compare it to. But she grew really well from seed on and has produced some good clones. Going to probably give the original plant another 3-4 weeks and then flower her. I will see how she looks.

I am super excited about the SBR. I have seen some great pics and videos of grows of that strain and it looks awesome.

 

[duudical]

Nice forum, I see some of the same strains im about to start up... looking forward to seeing your updates on them good luck with it all.

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Thanks! Glad you are around.

 

[duudical]

All of the seeds cracked beautifully and are now in rock wool cubes hanging out under the dome. The Trainwreck is already all the way out and starting to unfurl her little leaves. Happy.

 

[waterdawg]

So r u going to clone the plants you have? I would like to do the same type of setup but have no room for mothers and was going to clone from clone but still need to divide shed.

 

[duudical]

So r u going to clone the plants you have? I would like to do the same type of setup but have no room for mothers and was going to clone from clone but still need to divide shed.

You absolutely can do exactly what you are planning. If you don't have room to keep mothers, just take a couple of clones before you put a plant into flower (might want to do it about 10 days ahead of time so you are sure they root. You can keep both, or just the one you like the best. I used to keep a bunch of mothers, but am moving more in the direction you are. Right now I am trying to get a good backlog of plants going so I can begin staggering them out and getting an every-three-weeks-or-so harvest schedule, so I've been taking some clones. But of late I have mostly been growing a plant from seed, taking a few clones, and then flowering the main plant. If it's good, I'll grow out the clones. If not. I trash them, or better yet, give them away to some like-minded . I also have learned to keep them in solo cups as long as possible. If you don't mind watering every other day or more when they get a little more mature, you can keep them small until you are ready for her to go nuts. I poke holes under the rim of the cup and LST them early so they take the shape I want.

 

[duudical]

The PE is getting prettier and prettier. I am going to harvest her this Friday I believe

 

[duudical]

Here is a shot of the babies right now. The seeds are all producing little plants one by one. So far the G13 Purple Haze, HSO Desert Diesel and HSO Trainwreck have stood up. Still waiting on the Amherst SD, Gigabud, Emdog and Sugar Black Rose. The two Bubba Kush clones have multiple thick, pure white roots showing out the bottom right at 10 days from cutting. Nice! the SD clone next to it was taken about 4 days later so I expect roots soon. One of the BK's had roots a couple of days ago when I checked. The other clones I have taken from the SD mother have been very successful.



The Green Crack and Cheese seedlings look great. the Green Crack actually germinated a day later than the Cheese, but is already an entire node ahead of her



So....had a freak equipment malfunction that caused my light to fall. Fuck. So a couple of things. #1, this HTG Slimstar T5 is built tough as fuck because it didn't even break a bulb and works perfectly. And #2, it split my poor SD girl right down the middle. Took off a Bubba Kush branch as well, but she is fine and it was not that big of a loss. I did my best paramedic action on the poor lady. Days later she has tons of new growth and is looking okay. I pruned out the smaller twiggy stuff and hit her with some foliar spray that included some Thrive Alive B1 and some Roots Organics Extreme Serene to help her along. She is responding nicely and so far no branches show any sings of being cut off from water/nutrient flow up the plant. Tough little bitch:



And here is the SD clone in the water farm bucket. She is really starting to grow. Haven't seen roots poke out the bottom, but I use 10" net pots so it typically takes a little bit. Based on her growth and thickness, I think she has a great root mass in there.

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[youknowthekid!]

still here for the bud porn! sry to hear about the freak accident but everything is still looking great!

 

[duudical]

Thanks kid. Yeah. I am going to give her TLC. So far she is looking great. I flushed her the last two waterings in order to deal with some minor nute burn she was experiencing due to my heavy handedness. <hashtag dumbass>. It's like the Family Guy episode where Lois gets fat and Peter starts force feeding her saying "I want you fatter...it will please me". Ha ha. Damn. But I do love my ladies chubby

 

[eastcoastmo]

Sorry to hear of the damage man but looks like you havent lost much at all. You got your girls dialled in man, great to see

 

[duudical]

So here are a couple of questions that I have that I haven't been able to find an answer so far:

#1, Why are my plants not healing from being pinched and bent (super-cropped). I used to have no problems with this and am trying to figure out what is going on. I would have branches recover with thick, knotty knuckles at the bend sites. Now, they turn a dark color and stay moist and flexible. The end of the branch beyond the bend is fine and even flowers out without any issue other than having to be supported. So it doesn't seem to be over damage during bending. And I am careful and couldn't blow it 100% of the time. Is it a temp thing? It has been cold here for about 5+mos and the plants have definitely experienced 50s at night for weeks in Dec/Jano. That is what I am hoping it it is. But I also wouldn't be surprised if it is some kind of deficiency or overdose. Any thoughts on that?

#2, I have never had a plant stretch like the seed descriptions say and like I see in the photos of other growers gardens. If I put a 12" clone into flower, I wind up with a 15" plant maybe, not the 2 or 2.5x I see other people see. They get these tall, branchy plants that stretch even further in flower. I have never had a plant do that and am wondering WTF, . I have never had this 4' long branch with a giant cola on the end causing it to bend over. I see these folks veg'ing for shorter periods than me and getting these results. I changed my flower room to 600w HPS in hopes that was the issue. Not a huge difference from the floro's I was using stretch-wise (size and density?...hell yeah, like a million times better, but not so much the stretch). Is it because they veg under MH? I do this as a hobby and I just am not going there. I am now growing under 432w of 6500k T5 now so I am hoping for more vigorous growth. Just wondering if you have any input. I put a Blue Dream into flower a week ago that measured 30" from the ground (she's in a 5gal DWC bucket and has a huge root mass). I am going to see what the combo of the better grow and flower lights will do. She's the first to experience both.