Airplanes don't just fall out of the sky

schuylaar

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okay, so the US is saying it picked up engine "ping" for 4 hours after last recorded malaysian radar sighting which includes the turnaround..crazy and sad those people aren't coming home and even worse for their families..what a roller coaster this has become.
 

Doer

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I think Sunni Jihad stole the airplane and took it somewhere. I think Obama knows more than he will say, again.
 

Wavels

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Wowee kazowie...breaking news tonight indicates that humans had to control the plane to make it deviate from flight plan dramatically...seems that the plane rapidly climbed to 45,000 feet and then rapidly descended into weird pattern...stay tuned, this is quite a mystery.
 

NLXSK1

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Ok, so I am stoned tonight.

What if it was a terrorist attack where the terrorists did not want to die. Maybe they wanted to do it again...

Capture a plane, take it to 45K, depressurize the plane, dead passengers, drop the plane down to a reasonable height and then set the autopilot and parachute out of the plane.

They have probably made 10 movies similar to this...

It would be one reason for the terrorists not to announce it. If another plane disappears like the first one that might really cause some terror. The unknown is almost always worse than the known...

Going back to getting stoned now...
 

Wavels

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Ok, so I am stoned tonight.

What if it was a terrorist attack where the terrorists did not want to die. Maybe they wanted to do it again...

Capture a plane, take it to 45K, depressurize the plane, dead passengers, drop the plane down to a reasonable height and then set the autopilot and parachute out of the plane.

They have probably made 10 movies similar to this...

It would be one reason for the terrorists not to announce it. If another plane disappears like the first one that might really cause some terror. The unknown is almost always worse than the known...

Going back to getting stoned now...
I keep thinking of the D. B. Cooper mystery, and I am throughly enjoying some of my '09 vintage AK-47 brain numbing, tasty buds as I ponder the unfathomable...hahaha

Truth almost always kicks fictions ass...
 

GreatwhiteNorth

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i think making assumptions with no evidence whatsoever is stupid and often prejudiced, but not necessarily "raciest".

stay out of politics! :cuss:
I made no assumptions nor did I mention any members names (but Obama was mentioned).
And I try and stay out of here - but got dragged into the intrigue by my own situational curiosity.
Damn me !
 

UncleBuck

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I made no assumptions nor did I mention any members names (but Obama was mentioned).
And I try and stay out of here - but got dragged into the intrigue by my own situational curiosity.
Damn me !
it was the guy you quoted making assumptions, it was i who took the irresistible bait.
 

Glaucoma

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I think it came apart mid air, one way or another. It can and does happen due to structural failure. Many times they make it.. Southwest and Aloha Airlines come to mind. Other times they don't, like Japan Airlines.

It's usually a good 6 months before the preliminary report on the wreckage is released, and a good year before anything final. Unless they uncover some plot, it'll be at least that long before we know anything for sure.

I know many pilots and none of them would ever willingly give up their aircraft, especially in this day and age. I heard a Boeing pilot (I forget which 7x7) say the first thing he'd do if he knew there was a hijack attempt was to roll the plane. An Airbus would never allow that move, though, because they are fly-by-wire. At the very least, you would for sure bump your transponder from 7500 to 7600(?) to alert ATC.

Some other points concerning previous posts..

The masks will drop if the cabin altitude goes over something like 12K feet. It doesn't matter how fast it gets there, explosive or slow leak.

Certificating new parts is indeed quite expensive and greatly stalls the use of new technology. The two most common piston engine manufacturers (Lycoming and Continental) still produce engines that were originally certificated in like, the 40's. I think the current average cost of R+D is 4 million dollars and 2 years of red tape for any new part or system, and there is no guarantee the FAA will grant you a PMA (parts manufacturing authorization).
 

schuylaar

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I made no assumptions nor did I mention any members names (but Obama was mentioned).
And I try and stay out of here - but got dragged into the intrigue by my own situational curiosity.
Damn me !
actually, i think we need mystic clown back for opinion:lol:

good times, good times:clap:
 

schuylaar

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I think it came apart mid air, one way or another. It can and does happen due to structural failure. Many times they make it.. Southwest and Aloha Airlines come to mind. Other times they don't, like Japan Airlines.

It's usually a good 6 months before the preliminary report on the wreckage is released, and a good year before anything final. Unless they uncover some plot, it'll be at least that long before we know anything for sure.

I know many pilots and none of them would ever willingly give up their aircraft, especially in this day and age. I heard a Boeing pilot (I forget which 7x7) say the first thing he'd do if he knew there was a hijack attempt was to roll the plane. An Airbus would never allow that move, though, because they are fly-by-wire. At the very least, you would for sure bump your transponder from 7500 to 7600(?) to alert ATC.

Some other points concerning previous posts..

The masks will drop if the cabin altitude goes over something like 12K feet. It doesn't matter how fast it gets there, explosive or slow leak.

Certificating new parts is indeed quite expensive and greatly stalls the use of new technology. The two most common piston engine manufacturers (Lycoming and Continental) still produce engines that were originally certificated in like, the 40's. I think the current average cost of R+D is 4 million dollars and 2 years of red tape for any new part or system, and there is no guarantee the FAA will grant you a PMA (parts manufacturing authorization).
i believe that to be true..what is fly-by-wire?

damn! this is perplexing..i do love a good mystery..let's take a look at the newest info:

1. definitely turned around, made moves; changed altitude (human)
2. took one of two routes..toward africa or down toward antarctic/australia
3. if toward africa they would have been captured on radar again

magic florida 8-ball says and schuylaars brain filter..co-pilot

1. not well known
2. young
3. could be cell of terrorist group from china
4. what's more terrifying to a group of chinese than boarding a plane..never to be seen again?
5. crippling..they were able to take out 200 people in one swoop.
 
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