Daub Marley
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more specifically its called salting out. Skunk pharm has the details in the polishing section. You're going to need a good non-polar solvent.
Water soaking/ hash oil
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kushdaddy1980
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is 100% iso alcohol polar or non-polar? what is the difference?
WarMachine
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Alcohol in general, whether it is 91% ISO, 99% ISO, or even 190 proof Everclear, they are all polar. A non polar solvent would be like butane and propane and such.
kushdaddy1980
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ok ive seen a couple threads that show how to spray the butane through a metal turkey baseter. i needed some butane for a couple refillable lighters that were empty,i checked around walmart, kmart, and they dont sell butane. what kind of butane would be best for that process and where can i find it?
WarMachine
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You want to get a butane can that is at least 5x filtered. I use power 5 (its a blue and black can). You can get it at some liquor stores here, head shops, or online.
You can do the mirror test to test the butane that you get. You spray it on a mirror for about five seconds and see if there is any residue.
You can do the mirror test to test the butane that you get. You spray it on a mirror for about five seconds and see if there is any residue.
WarMachine
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You want to get a butane can that is at least 5x filtered. I use power 5 (its a blue and black can). You can get it at some liquor stores here, head shops, or online.
You can do the mirror test to test the butane that you get. You spray it on a mirror for about five seconds and see if there is any residue.
You can do the mirror test to test the butane that you get. You spray it on a mirror for about five seconds and see if there is any residue.
Texas(THC)
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https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=275567
you ever check this out WM?
recommended butane from icmag with mirror test results
you ever check this out WM?
recommended butane from icmag with mirror test results
WarMachine
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No I haven't but pretty good information there Texas, thanks!
kushdaddy1980
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ok cool ill try to locate some of that, how many cans do you think i would need for an oz of green?
and ive heard all the horror stories about houses being blown up doing this the wrong way, any suggestions for someone who has made iso hash and wants to attempt this? besides the basic, dont be a moron lol and dont smoke your joint while your doing this,
ive been reading threads about it and seeing the results its clear that bho makes a better product, but do you have to vacuum purge it? is there no alternative to that?( im guessing the answer is no lol) i would have to build a chamber because im on a budget but that all seems like a lot of work, maybe i should try to perfect my qwiso technique first what do you guys think?
WarMachine
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Me personally, for an oz of nugs I would probably use a can maybe a can and a half. I do the long soak method, not your standard tube/spray tech. I also grind my material that's why. If it is trim, it could be 2 cans. Honestly, as long as your smart your okay. I suggest don't smoke near the area at all. Have everything already on (lights, fans) so you don't have to turn anything on and chance a spark. I do it in a warehouse, outdoor, or in a storage shed. Keep in mind, the long soak method (what I do) is more dangerous than spray tube just because you literally have a mason jar filled with butane chillin.
You can winterize your product if you don't have a vac pump. If your on a budget, you could always get a hand vac and mason jar setup. I like both personally, BHO and qwISO.
You can winterize your product if you don't have a vac pump. If your on a budget, you could always get a hand vac and mason jar setup. I like both personally, BHO and qwISO.
In my opinion, an open dish with a puddle of liquid butane is more dangerous object than a mason jar or thermos filled with liquid butane.
Daub Marley
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Well it's both. Its a great solvent to clean with because of which. Polarity is when an atom of a molecule has a tug of war with another atom, but instead of pulling straight the opposite direction (non-polar) they pull in somewhat the same direction and the forces do not completely cancel each other out. This make the molecule become polar, sort of like a magnet. The negative end of a polar molecule wants to connect to a positive end of another polar molecule. This can force out any non-polar molecules like with oil(non-polar) and water(polar).
danknugg
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I think that putting your material in water for a week first will help the final product, except for taste. Potency will be slightly better. Look up "water curing". I didn't believe it at first but it works great for me. You will lose anywhere from 10-30% (closer to 10 with nugs) in the original weight of your product, but your original problem of having the extra "plant" materials will be solved. I was actually wondering and considering doing this same thing.
kushdaddy1980
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well see this all stems from what i did with some stuff that i grew that wasnt very good, i tried a water cure on it, soaked it for a week and got all the chlorophyll and crap out of it, then dried it. the taste was better but a bit bland, like some good reggie but still had major trichs on it. i figured that the taste would suffer but a cleaner final product is what im after. and im probably going to stick with qwISO for now, until i get the hang of it. i just want to get to full melt, so it doesnt keep caking up and burning out my vape coil.
i was working with some questionable green material as well, some of it was from a nute burned harvest, and might have even got some veg trim in there..my next attempt will be from solid, well grown and maintained plants, green meterial with trichs on it only..
Fadedawg
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To find out the "polarity" of a solvent, you can check the dielectric constant. Any thing with a dielectric constant above 15 is considered "polar", with water, the universal solvent, at 80. Check out the Epsilon column on the graph at the following site: http://depts.washington.edu/eooptic/linkfiles/dielectric_chart[1].pdf
It is the one with the Greek E at the head of the column, in which water shows a DC of 80.1.
n-Butane isn't shown, but is about 1.8.