Airplanes don't just fall out of the sky

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schuylaar

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well if passports were stolen and then therefore altered to allow passage..why would one do this?..how often does this happen? do other countries use the same technology with a chip inside the passport? and why malaysia to china?..it's so weird.

to terrorize is to create a paralyzing fear..this does not exactly fit the bill..not connected to the us in any way save for the 3 americans on that flight.

no SOS; nothing..any idea how old the plane was?..i'm gonna say something just blew..caught off guard..was swift consuming and down she went..flock of birds in an engine?..fuel line freeze?
 
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schuylaar said:
well if passports were stolen and then therefore altered to allow passage..why would one do this?..how often does this happen? do other countries use the same technology with a chip inside the passport? and why malaysia to china?..it's so weird.

to terrorize is to create a paralyzing fear..this does not exactly fit the bill..not connected to the us in any way save for the 3 americans on that flight.

no SOS; nothing..any idea how old the plane was?..i'm gonna say something just blew..caught off guard..was swift consuming and down she went..flock of birds in an engine?..fuel line freeze?
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Fairly new. A 777. The passport thing.....is weird. But, that doesn't say they used the stolen passports themselves. So, false passports based on lost ones, I imagine.
 
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Just heard there were 20 people from a TX semiconductor Company on that plane going to a Conference.

My Company will not allow more than 4 employees on the same plane, at one time.
 
Doer

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Doer said:
Fairly new. A 777. The passport thing.....is weird. But, that doesn't say they used the stolen passports themselves. So, false passports based on lost ones, I imagine.
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woops....now they are saying both passports were Stolen in Malaysia, from the vacationers.
 
Winter Woman

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Reuters) - Officials investigating the disappearance of a Malaysian airliner with 239 people on board are narrowing the focus of their inquiries on the possibility that it disintegrated mid-flight, a senior source said on Sunday.
Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 vanished after climbing to a cruising altitude of 35,000 feet between Kuala Lumpur and Beijing in the early hours of Saturday. Search teams have not been able to make any confirmed discovery of wreckage in seas beneath the plane's flight path almost 48 hours after it took off.
"The fact that we are unable to find any debris so far appears to indicate that the aircraft is likely to have disintegrated at around 35,000 feet," said the source, who is involved in the preliminary investigations in Malaysia.
If the plane had plunged intact from such a height, breaking up only on impact with the water, search teams would have expected to find a fairly concentrated pattern of debris, said the source, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly on the investigation.
 
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schuylaar said:
well if passports were stolen and then therefore altered to allow passage..why would one do this?..how often does this happen? do other countries use the same technology with a chip inside the passport? and why malaysia to china?..it's so weird.

to terrorize is to create a paralyzing fear..this does not exactly fit the bill..not connected to the us in any way save for the 3 americans on that flight.

no SOS; nothing..any idea how old the plane was?..i'm gonna say something just blew..caught off guard..was swift consuming and down she went..flock of birds in an engine?..fuel line freeze?
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Given that most of the passengers were Chinese, China could have been the target, if terrorism was involved. I thought immediately of the mass stabbing that just occurred there, which is being called a terrorist attack.
 
Doer

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they have said that they believe it disintegrated in the air.
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Yes, from the shallow sea, we will know, all they will say....in about a year.

So, recover all the peices. Check
Assemble in hanger Check
Perform extensive analysis Check

So, it has not even begun, really.

But, planes don't do that as a failure mode, are designed not to do that, etc. So, me pilot, and I cannot come up with a single, non-sinister case for disintegration at 35K feet.

I don't believe that has ever happened. Has it? Even that 747 that blew the center fuel tank didn't disintegrate.

So, I want to see the toilet walls and panels and pieces. I want to see the seats around the wing spars. Is there evidence of any explosion in the passenger or baggage spaces? Are those floors areas blown up or down? Are exterior skin pieces folded in or out? Was the hull penetrated by a missile? Or was there a bomb, in the toilet or suitcase, etc?

Or did it just disintegrate because of a design flaw? That's what the Boeing mucks are soiling themselves about.

Lockerbee, if you remember did disintegrate, but, over the fields, and it was a tiny piece of circuit board that was the needed clue.
 
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schuylaar

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Doer said:
Yes, from the shallow sea, we will know, all they will say....in about a year.

So, recover all the peices. Check
Assemble in hanger Check
Perform extensive analysis Check

So, it has not even begun, really.

But, planes don't do that as a failure mode, are designed not to do that, etc. So, me pilot, and I cannot come up with a single, non-sinister case for disintegration at 35K feet.

I don't believe that has ever happened. Has it? Even that 747 that blew the center fuel tank didn't disintegrate.

So, I want to see the toilet walls and panels and pieces. I want to see the seats around the wing spars. Is there evidence of any explosion in the passenger or baggage spaces? Are those floors areas blown up or down? Are exterior skin pieces folded in or out? Was the hull penetrated by a missile? Or was there a bomb, in the toilet or suitcase, etc?

Or did it just disintegrate because of a design flaw? That's what the Boeing mucks are soiling themselves about.

Lockerbee, if you remember did disintegrate, but, over the fields, and it was a tiny piece of circuit board that was the needed clue.
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jfk jr????????

EDIT: shit just happens sometimes
 
desert dude

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Doer said:
Yes, from the shallow sea, we will know, all they will say....in about a year.

So, recover all the peices. Check
Assemble in hanger Check
Perform extensive analysis Check

So, it has not even begun, really.

But, planes don't do that as a failure mode, are designed not to do that, etc. So, me pilot, and I cannot come up with a single, non-sinister case for disintegration at 35K feet.

I don't believe that has ever happened. Has it? Even that 747 that blew the center fuel tank didn't disintegrate.

So, I want to see the toilet walls and panels and pieces. I want to see the seats around the wing spars. Is there evidence of any explosion in the passenger or baggage spaces? Are those floors areas blown up or down? Are exterior skin pieces folded in or out? Was the hull penetrated by a missile? Or was there a bomb, in the toilet or suitcase, etc?

Or did it just disintegrate because of a design flaw? That's what the Boeing mucks are soiling themselves about.

Lockerbee, if you remember did disintegrate, but, over the fields, and it was a tiny piece of circuit board that was the needed clue.
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There is no design flaw. The 777 has been flying for a long time. The only other accident in a 777 was the crash in San Fran recently where an inexperienced pilot came down short of the runway.

Airplanes don't "disintegrate" at 35,000 feet for no reason.
 
Doer

Doer

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schuylaar said:
jfk jr????????
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Well, we don't really know a single thing about that, do we?: Burial at sea? But, I know a lot about being a low time pilot in a hot aircraft, with some booze in, and really chatty passengers in the back, with a patchy cloud deck where the stars can look like island lights and vice versa.

Don't do it.
 
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Doer

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desert dude said:
There is no design flaw. The 777 has been flying for a long time. The only other accident in a 777 was the crash in San Fran recently where an inexperienced pilot came down short of the runway.

Airplanes don't "disintegrate" at 35,000 feet for no reason.
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No discovered design flaw.
 
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schuylaar

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Doer said:
Well, we don't really know a single thing about that, do we?: Burial at sea? But, I know a lot about being a low time pilot in a hot aircraft, with some booze in, and really chatty passengers in the back, with a patchy cloud deck where the stars can look like island lights and vice versa.

Don't do it.
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exactly anything can happen; for the most part flying is very safe..but things do happen.
 
Pinworm

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[video=youtube;l9bHiP19iFQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9bHiP19iFQ[/video]

Airplanes don't just fall out of the sky...they blow up, too.

Boom! Kersplah! GuhBROOMSH!!!
 
Doer

Doer

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schuylaar said:
what about the black box..wonder why it's not sending out a signal?
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Submerged there is a submerged signal. And some of them are designed to float a beacon for the Satellites. But, they never seem to, do they? Alas.
 
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