Key's Indoor/Outdoor Fruit and Vegetables

keysareme

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Hey. 50 days into flowering of my medical grow, and I also have some fruit and vegetables sprouted.

They have their own 4x2x5 tent, two circulation fans, and 2 x 125w 6500k cfls one under a hydrofarm and the other a basic bat wing reflector.

Germinated in mini rockwools, I planted 50+ seeds, and over 30 have sprouted/been transplanted into either red cups or up to 1 gallon container(s).

The remaining are still on a heat mat set to 82, which keeps the actual temp on the mat around 78-80.

Two of my celery plants sprouted and pushed themselves up above the the rockwool cubes, so I planted the sprouts directly into soil and they have since popped up above the soil.

One of my broccoli, romenesco, dried up, and I will need to germinate another seed.

Another broccoli, early purple, seems to be recovering from dehydration as it stands up towards the light.

The peas, and melons are vibrant, and their roots were spreading on the bottom of the rockwool cubes. Massive root structure formed, healthy seeds.

Also have, tomatoes, kale, beans, lettuces, onions, asparagus, swiss chard, cucumbers, peppers, sage, parsley, rosemary, wheatgrass, broccoli sprouts, and carrots growing.

I will be building shelves for the tent, and the plants will be moved up shelf, by, shelf as they grow, and then transplanted to a larger medium for when its time to put them outside.

The light has been 24/7 for about three days, and I will re-calibrate the timer to run 18/6 (on at 8pm off at 2pm) once a majority of the remaining seeds have sprouted.

1 carrot per seed. Lots more to plant.
 

LIBERTYCHICKEN

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I have never grown anything under lights, but I would expect some of your plants to bolt or start doing funny stuff by playing with the lighting hours

also the aspargaus is not a good canidate for under lights due to the fact harvest is years away ( at least 3) and they have very deep roots
 

keysareme

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Cool you mention that, as they have been on 18/6 from 8pm-12pm evening to mid day, the timer was not set properly today (after recalibrating the tent last evening), the plants will have 36 hours of light, and resume darkness at 12pm Friday.

I just wanted to get some starts going, they will all be transplanted.

Any more input on what a healthy light cycle would be?

I have two trays of seeds in rockwools on heating mats, some are the plants the did not germinate the first round, and also another each of all the seeds that did sprout.
 

Cereal box

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Sweet set up! I'd love to have an indoor garden for the winter. What kind of peppers you have going? If you like a lot of hot and sweet pepper check out pepper joes. They have a ton of cool, hard to find peppers. Good luck, I'll be keeping my eye on this!
 

keysareme

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Hey. Thanks bro. I've got, yellow sunburst, orange king, California wonder, Anaheim, cubanelle, pepperchinis and jalapeños.
 

Cereal box

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Nice! I love peppers, especially Anaheim and jalapeños. I plan on doing some Carolina reapers peppers which, I guess are supposed to be the hottest pepper in the world. I did some ghost peppers last year and they were insanely hot.
 

keysareme

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Take a look at this site ...http://www.herbiesheadshop.com/

Consider selling you vegetables at a stall, in your front yard, and with the proceeds spoil yourself at herbies ...lol

I'm up for growing the plants to around a foot each, and I would love to give away sets to friends for their gardens. Sprouting seeds is awesome, it helps me to feel a depth of connection that I had drifted off from.
 

LIBERTYCHICKEN

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Nice! I love peppers, especially Anaheim and jalapeños. I plan on doing some Carolina reapers peppers which, I guess are supposed to be the hottest pepper in the world. I did some ghost peppers last year and they were insanely hot.

I grew ghosts before.............

Painfull harvest and processing , I would recomend a full tyvec suit, gloves and even a dust mask

I burn thinking about it
 

Cereal box

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I grew ghosts before.............

Painfull harvest and processing , I would recomend a full tyvec suit, gloves and even a dust mask

I burn thinking about it
I wish you could of told me that a year ago! Haha, I was so stupid with those peppers. Ended up with some in my nose/eyes at one point, luckily I can still see though! Thanks for the heads up, I'll use that advice this year.
 

fridayfishfry

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looks good man it's always good to start indoors really early they grow giant later especially tomatoes. I start indoors feb28 and transplant april20
 

keysareme

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Stopping in with a quick update. I have been gardening consistently, every day.

Up early to tend to plants and prepare water/food, let it heat in the sun to 70 as I do my stuff, and then water. At least 10 gallons a day during the hot weeks.

I have 7 tomatoes fruiting and 8 more ready for transplant into one of the 5'x3' raised beds I am Buidling.

The beds will be four redwood boards stacked, each board is 8 inches, making the height 2ft 8 inches.

Side by side with a place to walk through, two 5'x3' beds, one for the tomatoes and one for all of the peppers and continuous harvest kale, broccoli, whatever else I want to put in there and also melons and watermelons, one of the beds will be in front of a full wall lattice for vines.

I have harvested peas (tool the peas dried them and planted, they sprouted, so first pea harvest is now growing more pea vines. Also harvested two huge kale plants (made into kale chips), then two carrots (one Little Fingers and one Amarillo, lots of green lettuces, a few Swiss chards, and two early peppers, all diced up into a first harvest salad.

Pulled up some cilantro, and that's all for now.

Out in the garden still are, 2 Celeries in a 3.5'x3.5' raised bed, along side a lot of onions red and white, and four Broccolis on their way.

In containers,
- 4 peppers in two gallon felt pots coco connoisseur soil blend
- 2 peppers in five gallons felt pots same coco.
- 3 peppers in red cups still, near flowering just as above.
- Lots of peppers plants sprouted from one organic red bell pepper picked up at the local joes trader. (10 or so are in red cups/start containers, and the rest are found split in with two Tomato plants.. I had planted all the seeds from the bell pepper into some soil and eventually recycled the soil for use with tomato plants. All those pepper seeds sprouted and are growing side by side with the tomato plants in the red cups.

I also just put 14 pepper plants outside today, under some shade that I made. Not starts, full plants ready to flower.

Two cucumbers are fruiting, three bean bushes are expanding, a passion fruit vine is still going, spinaches, lettuces and kales are formed, nice bunches and have really sold root mass even though most of the greens are in 4in starter pots still.

The three melons took to the higher temperature and are growing well.

Three asparagus tucked atop the trellis.

One awesomely bolted lettuce trying to flower.

I switched from RO to Tap water. The change is cause of Cost, and without my own RO filter, I would be picking up water at least once a day unless I were to get more food grade bpa free 5 Gallons.

- so it was either acquire a RO filter or go tap for now (rain water was great and promoted some stellar growth and development, I was able to consistently capture enough to keep my plants fed during the time when we had a few weeks of on and off rain.

What I really want to, and will do is establish a drip line. Once these planters are built and put in place, I can shape the fixtures and fittings for a drip line, and get a resovoir/water barrel going to keep the roots of each plant fed, and be more efficient with my feedings.

All this in a space that is about 12'x8'. Which also hosts a three tier stacked worm composter, 32 gal upright container, tables for plant support (in place of where the new planter beds will be).
 

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keysareme

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First picture has;
lemon cucumber (plant rooted overwhelming strong, thick robust, fibrous roots) in 3 gallon felt pot, marketer cucumber in a red cup (sitting on top of the soil for lemon cucumber), Broccolis early purple, romensco, Diccico, Waltham, tomatoes, kales, bean bushes, pea vine, passion fruit vine, Swiss chard, spinach and asparagus.

Second photo has the big tomato plants, the first garden bed in the back right (onions, carrots, the big Broccolis, and Celeries. The bed will be mixed and amended after Broccolis flower out. Then planted heavily with carrots, onions and Celeries.) The middle of the photo has all the peppers and some awesome lettuces, grew out in real nice stalks/bunches. Lettuce loves coco. Crispy and fresh greens.

The big tomatoes are going to be planted into a super soil'd 5'x2.5' raised garden bed at 3 ft in height. However much amended soil that it, I intend on planting 5 huge tomato plants (at least) in one of the beds I'm making, and then choose what to use the second bed which will be 4'x2.5'.

Yea, I wanted to make sure the pepper plants didn't burn and lose their leaves, they have been inside for over a month, and I wanted them to feel the shift in temperature first, and I hope they take well to the increase in light intensity (changing from cfl light to Sun). I hope they like the new environment outside, and are acclamating to the changes it has brought to them.
 

keysareme

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Update,

The pepper plants which were inside, have now been outside for at least a week, and seem to have acclimated to the increase in light intensity and temperature.

I have not had any "whitening" or bleaching/dying off from extreme shift in conditions, of any of the feeder leaves on any of the pepper plants. They seem to have taken to the sun with joy.

I still have them in a more shaded corner, so they so get less direct light than other areas of the garden, so I think this has helped ease them in to the outside.

I'm watering daily, and keeping up ample water, making sure it has time for the chlorine to at least evaporate, we have chloramine in the water here, so the only true way is to get a garden hose filter or a filter for inside the house, is a full time gig man.

I'm usually up all night just making sure stuff is ready for the coming day.

Between my medical garden and my fruit and vegetable garden, I am gardening most of my days now.

At least 10 gallons a day, and when it's nice and hot, like it is right now, that can easily be doubled.

I'm so happy to be moving onto to using entirely my own organic super soil, no more bottled nutrients. Cause mixing anywhere from 5-15 gallons a day, just to get by and keep all the plants happily hydrated, it's getting costly and time consuming.

I'm happy to have done it thus far, but I could not and would not see me living like this the rest of my life. There is no way I could fill up 8 2.5 gallon buckets with tap water every day, just to barely have enough "ready" to water into the plants.

So I am excited to be moving into entirely organic super soil, and to be building a drip system. Much more efficient and I'llactually have time to go get a fun and enjoyable job again.
 

keysareme

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Hey, hey, here is a an update on whats growing on!

I harvested our first two large Kale Plants, Red Russian and Premier.


The ribs were ground up and fed to the worms. :roll:
The leafs were baked into Kale Chips.:weed:

and


Then I made an awesome garden salad with freshly harvested carrots and peppers. 8)




Eating fresh organic fruit and vegetables that had just been growing, got me up and high feeling into cleaning up the garden and moving the plants around again. :clap:

So I watched the light hours, and saw that where I had placed the large 4ft Tomato Trees, was being cast on by warm sunlight from 11am till about 4pm, and then they were in in the shade. I've since been moving them around 3pm, and now they are in full sun light from 11am till about 7pm. :bigjoint:

All the peppers that went outside together two weeks ago are in full growth, soaking up the healthy rays of nourishing warmth, and are still in red solo cups, they medium is a coco based blend, and I would feel best to pick up, or make some more to keep their medium consistent for up-potting. :leaf:

I moved all the cucumber and two melons onto a table together, and weaved them in and out of a lattice. The first Lemon Cucumber plant has two real nice Cuc's formed and swelling, there is a gap from those two and the next fruit forming which is a foot up the lattice.

Five other melon plants seem to have made it into the outside grow environment and and producing good foliage, even though they show signs of heat stress with the up/inwards curling of their leaves. I can move them onto the table with the other melons and cucumbers. That table gets light from 11am-3pm. Where they are at right now they are receiving light from 11am-5/6pm.

I worked through one of the remaining two buckets of soil I picked up from a friends bathtub planter. I went to their place and dug the soil out in the dark of night, it was moist, super inhabited by worms and I got a total of six 5-gallon buckets. These remaining two have been sitting, cooking for over a month. Half way into the bucket, the soil was still the same moist condition as when I had picked it up. I met up with about 30 worms. Three of them were half a foot man! :hump: I could tell they were big, but man, three of them were huge. A good amount were small and freshly born, and the remainder were right in the middle. So this shows me that the soils is very fertile, and the amount of castings present represents that. The worms went happily into the top tray of my worm composter. :blsmoke:

I up-potted two tomato plants that had just completely encompassed the entire inner spacing of the red cup, and all the way around was roots. So, I used some of the coco blend I have left to up-pot one into a 1 gallon plastic pot, and for the other tomato plant I used some of the new soil that I cleaned out and worked through today. I mixed some of the more sandy stuff that was the top half of the bucket, with about 70% of the heavily worm casting moist soil from the bottom half of the bucket where the worms were nestled up nice and cozy.

I made a video.

I actually made three videos.

The first one is only a few minutes.
The second, I got really into and went through my whole garden, it is 18 minutes.
The third video is of the first huge worm.

Let me know if you want to see any of the videos.
 
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