"global warming petition project" peer reviewed and everything???

NLXSK1

Well-Known Member
i hope you will accept nate silver as proof, since he always predicts these things using science and math.

much like with the global warming debate, you make stupid claims against science and math and get proven wrong over and over.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/09/oct-9-romney-erases-obamas-convention-bounce-in-forecast/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0

here is what nate silver had to say about the election on the ninth of october of 2012.

Mr. Obama’s projected margin of victory in the national popular vote — 2.0 percentage points — represents the closest the race has been since June 27.

nate silver also got it wrong, just like you.

he got it wrong by 2 points, you had it wrong by 18 full points.

now since i suck with percentages and zeroes, you tell me: were you 900% wrong, or were you 9000% wrong? or were you 9 million times wrong?

in any case, this is the type of reality bitch slap that is occurring in the anthropogenic climate change debate, and you are the one off by 18 points while we may be off by just a couple.

be proud of your demonstrable wrongness.
Be proud that you derailed yet another thread by attacking a posters facts on a completely unrelated issue. Now all you have to do is call him a racist, sexist, homophobe and pass out after drinking another beer and your day is done!
 

Doer

Well-Known Member
Why don't you feel comfortable sharing your credentials after espousing how important they are? That seems a little unusual to me.. \

Do you think that nothing in science can be proven without seeing it firsthand first?

Do you think rhetorical bullshit questions is science. HA Haaaa

Besides the fact that there is no other viable theory to compete with the theory of evolution, what do you believe proves its validity? Validity? Ha Haaaa.

You don't realize that we simply don't NEED a current contradiction to the current understanding of the theory of evolution to conclude the theory of evolution is a scientific fact?

If you had one...

If you found a rabbit below a dinosaur in the strata TOMORROW it would totally disprove the theory of evolution. What a Joke!

What would you accept as proof of ACC?


..What would you accept as undeniable evidence of the planet warming faster now than at any other time in the planets recent history? 17 years and no warming....UN Climate Report, fool.
Why don't you feel comfortable sharing your credentials after espousing how important they are? That seems a little unusual to me..

Like I said, you are total idiot. I would match resume and pay check with you, but I have to be able take from you a valuable assets, for the bet.

But you don't have any valuable assets, do you? So, you want it to feel comfortable and me not seem unusual, when I just want to put a boot mark on your face?
How unusual is that, girl beater? Maybe we can meet out back of Buck's hair place? Would that make you feel more usual?

Do you think that nothing in science can be proven without seeing it firsthand first?

Hey low, slow thinker. Has anyone seen a Higgs Boson? You are so confused as to what science even is. It is a ruthless, career killing game, if you are not careful.
Your baby prose, shows it all.

You don't realize that we simply don't NEED a current contradiction to the current understanding of the theory of evolution to conclude the theory of evolution is a scientific fact?

Any scientist will tell there is no such thing as scientific fact. Again you are way out of depth for the discussion. You want to believe in Fact as a religion. If I had a real contradiction to Evolution, I would be rich off the first book. But, if you had it you would blow it, not educated enough to capitalize.

We know there is Current Assessment (more accurate a term, than Understanding) with no CC, like Evolution or there is CA with CC, like Gravity or Big Bang. Science is about disproving your stupid myths and beliefs, by trial of Method.
Or there are feeble and also powerful, attempts at rip-off.

So, the CA of Climate is Closed Loop. The CC is this conjecture that is has a Tipping Point. So, we rule out in CA, these tipping points. But, you cannot rule them in, except by spew.

No MODELS SHOW A TIPPING POINT. Don't you feel stupid? You should. The Tipping is made up and cannot be shown at all to be a CC of this CA. So we laugh at you. HA Haaaaa.

So, you attempting to assail the CA of Climate with a made up, and unreal CC. This CC has no evidence. And I ask you to show me a Tipping Point model or math of the Thermodynamics. You can't. So it just makes you an argumentative punk.

You are such a character. A Rabbit below a dinosaur? :) Is that what you think evolution means? Dumb ass.

What would you accept as proof of ACC?

I already said, Show me anything in my list that shows any real warming at all. You can't. So more punk ass joining of a cult. Thoughtlessness.

So, if was was shown warming data I accept, then you could try for AGW, boot face. ..What would you accept as undeniable evidence that man is the ONLY POSSIBLE explanation for the phenomenon?

You have not shown phenomenon, that is the point. This UN report said we have 17 years now of no warming. How long have you been sure? How old are you? See it is quite possible there has been no warming in your LIFE. HA Haaaaa.

Go to a mirror and visualize a size 10 stomping boot. Good fit? My credentials would be above your understanding.
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
Do you think rhetorical bullshit questions is science. HA Haaaa
Then why did you say "This Theory of Evolution cannot be proven without a Time Machine." implicating the necessity of human senses when humans didn't exist to prove the theory of evolution?

I find that pretty interesting because if that's all it takes for you to accept evolution, I guess you haven't seen this experiment; http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/04/060422121625.htm Sexual selection right before your eyes! You seem to think that if we haven't seen evolution take place personally, there's no other way to know for sure. One, we have seen it take place personally, and two, there are multiple disciplines of science that support the theory of evolution, like geology, I'll get to that later when you make more of a fool of yourself in this post...

Validity? Ha Haaaa.
Yeah, the theory of evolution is a valid scientific theory, do you remember that consensus thing we were talking about earlier? That thing you said didn't mean anything..
If you found a rabbit below a dinosaur in the strata TOMORROW it would totally disprove the theory of evolution.

What a Joke!
Here's where geology supports the theory of evolution;

The oldest dinosaurs we know of are around 230 million years old, the oldest rabbits that we know of are around 40 million years old, that means that every single dinosaur that ever lived was older than the oldest rabbit that ever lived and every single one of them - without exception - would appear below rabbits in the different strata layers of the crust. So if you found a rabbit below a dinosaur, you would instantly disprove the theory of evolution

17 years and no warming....UN Climate Report, fool.
Every scientific study shows the complete opposite. You're choosing who to believe based on a political agenda, not the science. The science says you're wrong.
Like I said, you are total idiot. I would match resume and pay check with you, but I have to be able take from you a valuable assets, for the bet.

But you don't have any valuable assets, do you? So, you want it to feel comfortable and me not seem unusual, when I just want to put a boot mark on your face?
How unusual is that, girl beater? Maybe we can meet out back of Buck's hair place? Would that make you feel more usual?
You're the one that brought them up, now you don't want to talk about them? :o



Hey low, slow thinker. Has anyone seen a Higgs Boson? You are so confused as to what science even is. It is a ruthless, career killing game, if you are not careful.
Your baby prose, shows it all.
You're the one implying the theory of evolution isn't true because you've never seen anything evolve firsthand and you only accept it because there's nothing better, not because you understand the science behind it.. :shock:

It will only kill your career if you refuse to accept the reality of what the science is telling you. When you become a bad scientist. Creationist scientists, the scientists who deny the science behind climate change. Real scientists know these people are fools who don't understand how to process the results, they have no business being in science in the first place. You can keep your Ben Steins and Ken Hamms all you want, what have any of them ever given to the world?

Any scientist will tell there is no such thing as scientific fact. Again you are way out of depth for the discussion.

You don't understand how evolution works, it's as clear as day
You are such a character. A Rabbit below a dinosaur? :) Is that what you think evolution means? Dumb ass.
Yes, that's exactly what evolution means. Simpler organisms came first, more complex ones came later, and geology proves it. There has never, not a single time in human history been a younger species found below an older one
You have not shown phenomenon, that is the point. This UN report said we have 17 years now of no warming. How long have you been sure? How old are you? See it is quite possible there has been no warming in your LIFE. HA Haaaaa.
https://www.skepticalscience.com/global-warming-stopped-in-1998.htm
Go to a mirror and visualize a size 10 stomping boot. Good fit? My credentials would be above your understanding.
I doubt you'd step up in real life, I'm 6'2, 220 with a size 12 boot, so stop pretending to be an internet tough guy, you're just an idiot who doesn't understand science
1. UNDENIABLE evidence
2. UNDENIABLE evidence
3. Nah, I said 1 billion. I'll stick to that.
See, that's the thing.. You've been shown the evidence that's convinced the vast majority of experts who study the climate, and you're still not convinced.. So obviously, "UNDENIABLE EVIDENCE" is not specific enough. As long as all you say is "UNDENIABLE EVIDENCE", you could be shown anything and then just continue to move the goal posts and say "nope, I don't accept that, so it's not undeniable."... see how that works? I know how that works, I've been highlighting it since the beginning. None of you can answer that simple question so you never have to set anything in stone, because once you do, then somebody finds it and shows it to you, you'd have to admit you're wrong. This way you never have to admit anything. Not how science works.

So again, unless you can tell me what it would take to convince you, you have no valid scientific argument to begin with. Be specific now
 

jahbrudda

Well-Known Member

You have not shown phenomenon, that is the point. This UN report said we have 17 years now of no warming. How long have you been sure? How old are you? See it is quite possible there has been no warming in your LIFE. HA Haaaaa.



Every scientific study shows the complete opposite. You're choosing who to believe based on a political agenda, not the science. The science says you're wrong.

Doer is 100% correct, even the IPCC admits there has been no global warming in the last 17 years.

[h=1]IPCC Head Rajendra Pachauri Acknowledges 17 Year Stall In Global Warming[/h]
Shortly after the release, Nasa’s James Hansen acknowledged that global temperatures have not risen for more than a decade.
Now Rajendra Pachauri, head of the United Nations IPCC has Acknowledged the pause in warming.
“THE UN’s climate change chief, Rajendra Pachauri, has acknowledged a 17-year pause in global temperature rises, confirmed recently by Britain’s Met Office, but said it would need to last “30 to 40 years at least” to break the long-term global warming trend.”
So in essence their stance is that global warming has stopped, but needs to continue the non warming trend for twice as along (and twice as long as the previous warming trend 1980 – 1996) to break the trend. http://canadianawareness.org/2013/02/ipcc-head-rajendra-pachauri-acknowledges-17-year-stall-in-global-warming/

Scientists Baffled as Report Proves Global Warming Has Stopped - See more at: http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/04/15/scientists-baffled-as-report-proves-global-warming-has-stopped/#sthash.q6B4ZGd9.dpuf


THE UN's climate change chief, Rajendra Pachauri, has acknowledged a 17-year pause in global temperature rises, confirmed recently by Britain's Met Office
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nothing-off-limits-in-climate-debate/story-e6frg6n6-1226583112134

[h=1]IPCC Head Pachauri Acknowledges Global Warming Standstillhttp://www.thegwpf.org/ipcc-head-pachauri-acknowledges-global-warming-standstill/[/h]
The global warming ‘pause’ has now lasted for almost 17 years and shows no sign of ending.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2436710/Met-office-proof-global-warming-pause-climate-summit-confirms-global-temperature-stopped-rising.html


 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
Citing obviously biased sources is not science

The first link you posted is a conspiracy theorist website that covers such explosive scientific topics like chemtrails, fluoride, how vaccines cause autism and RFID chips...

Not science


You can't produce anything from any real scientists because all the real scientists accept ACC

Furthermore, even if the claim that the Earth hasn't warmed in 17 years was valid, temperature is not the only measure of ACC, shocking right?! How does your model account for the increased frequency of extreme weather over the past decade compared to the previous ones?
 

NLXSK1

Well-Known Member
Citing obviously biased sources is not science

The first link you posted is a conspiracy theorist website that covers such explosive scientific topics like chemtrails, fluoride, how vaccines cause autism and RFID chips...

Not science


You can't produce anything from any real scientists because all the real scientists accept ACC

Furthermore, even if the claim that the Earth hasn't warmed in 17 years was valid, temperature is not the only measure of ACC, shocking right?! How does your model account for the increased frequency of extreme weather over the past decade compared to the previous ones?
If you consider the head of the IPCC a biased source, and I do although biased in the opposite direction, then what proof will you accept that the globe isnt warming??

The pro-global warming people have said it isnt warming, the anti-global warming people have said it isnt warming but DAMNIT!!! You are bound and determined to prove the planet is still warming... LOL!!!
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
If you consider the head of the IPCC a biased source, and I do although biased in the opposite direction, then what proof will you accept that the globe isnt warming??

The pro-global warming people have said it isnt warming, the anti-global warming people have said it isnt warming but DAMNIT!!! You are bound and determined to prove the planet is still warming... LOL!!!
The sources JB cited are what is biased

Post a direct quote of Rajendra Pachauri saying ACC is not real or has stopped or that the climate has not warmed in 17 years
 

heckler73

Well-Known Member
The sources JB cited are what is biased

Post a direct quote of Rajendra Pachauri saying ACC is not real or has stopped or that the climate has not warmed in 17 years
Pada, how about looking at it from a slightly different angle.
Why has the warming trend relatively paused (vs predictions)?
It's not because we are pumping LESS GHGs into the atmosphere (they continue to rise, last I checked), so why is this happening?
 

NLXSK1

Well-Known Member
The sources JB cited are what is biased

Post a direct quote of Rajendra Pachauri saying ACC is not real or has stopped or that the climate has not warmed in 17 years
It was right in the middle of that post...


  • “THE UN’s climate change chief, Rajendra Pachauri, has acknowledged a 17-year pause in global temperature rises, confirmed recently by Britain’s Met Office, but said it would need to last “30 to 40 years at least” to break the long-term global warming trend.”​




 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
It was right in the middle of that post...


  • “THE UN’s climate change chief, Rajendra Pachauri, has acknowledged a 17-year pause in global temperature rises, confirmed recently by Britain’s Met Office, but said it would need to last “30 to 40 years at least” to break the long-term global warming trend.”​


That's not a direct quote from the guy, that's a partial quote that is likely taken out of context by the biased source JB posted. Can you find that full direct quote of his?
 

NLXSK1

Well-Known Member
That's not a direct quote from the guy, that's a partial quote that is likely taken out of context by the biased source JB posted. Can you find that full direct quote of his?
Are you saying that he did not say it? It appears pretty legit as he is calling for 40 more years of study (about his lifetime)... LOL!
 

NLXSK1

Well-Known Member
That's not a direct quote from the guy, that's a partial quote that is likely taken out of context by the biased source JB posted. Can you find that full direct quote of his?
There is some Irony in you, an unemployed teenager that sits around the house bitching about minimum wage all day would have the balls to ask for other peoples credentials.

Then when we show you bits and pieces of the truth the liberal left doesnt want to tell you, you are too damn lazy to google it. I aint your mama....
 

Doer

Well-Known Member
Doer is 100% correct, even the IPCC admits there has been no global warming in the last 17 years.

IPCC Head Rajendra Pachauri Acknowledges 17 Year Stall In Global Warming


Shortly after the release, Nasa’s James Hansen acknowledged that global temperatures have not risen for more than a decade.
Now Rajendra Pachauri, head of the United Nations IPCC has Acknowledged the pause in warming.
“THE UN’s climate change chief, Rajendra Pachauri, has acknowledged a 17-year pause in global temperature rises, confirmed recently by Britain’s Met Office, but said it would need to last “30 to 40 years at least” to break the long-term global warming trend.”
So in essence their stance is that global warming has stopped, but needs to continue the non warming trend for twice as along (and twice as long as the previous warming trend 1980 – 1996) to break the trend. http://canadianawareness.org/2013/02/ipcc-head-rajendra-pachauri-acknowledges-17-year-stall-in-global-warming/

Scientists Baffled as Report Proves Global Warming Has Stopped - See more at: http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/04/15/scientists-baffled-as-report-proves-global-warming-has-stopped/#sthash.q6B4ZGd9.dpuf


THE UN's climate change chief, Rajendra Pachauri, has acknowledged a 17-year pause in global temperature rises, confirmed recently by Britain's Met Office
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nothing-off-limits-in-climate-debate/story-e6frg6n6-1226583112134

IPCC Head Pachauri Acknowledges Global Warming Standstillhttp://www.thegwpf.org/ipcc-head-pachauri-acknowledges-global-warming-standstill/


The global warming ‘pause’ has now lasted for almost 17 years and shows no sign of ending.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2436710/Met-office-proof-global-warming-pause-climate-summit-confirms-global-temperature-stopped-rising.html


The Pad guy is plainly arrested, development wise. And Boring, and more boring.....Tag out. At 'em!
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
Are you saying that he did not say it? It appears pretty legit as he is calling for 40 more years of study (about his lifetime)... LOL!
You're reading a cherry picked quote from a biased new source, not his actual quote. You don't know what he said.

There is some Irony in you, an unemployed teenager that sits around the house bitching about minimum wage all day would have the balls to ask for other peoples credentials.

Then when we show you bits and pieces of the truth the liberal left doesnt want to tell you, you are too damn lazy to google it. I aint your mama....
I'm not unemployed, I'm not a teenager and I'm not the one that claims some scientific background but oddly doesn't understand the science behind climate change or evolution. Claiming the position of authority without backing anything up and getting basic questions wrong is no way to argue a point you're trying to make..

You cherry pick the bits and pieces you want to accept, everything else is government corruption. Anything that goes against your conspiracy theory is simply dismissed because of the government. That's exactly how 911 truthers and all other kinds of conspiracy theorists handle the information that contradicts their beliefs. Like I've been saying this entire time, there are ways to determine if ACC is false, I've told you how which means my position could be falsified if the evidence showed that. Your side is completely rigid in your beliefs, completely unwilling to change or even offer anything that could change your mind because nothing can.

That's what's ironic
 

jahbrudda

Well-Known Member
Citing obviously biased sources is not science

The first link you posted is a conspiracy theorist website that covers such explosive scientific topics like chemtrails, fluoride, how vaccines cause autism and RFID chips...

Not science


You can't produce anything from any real scientists because all the real scientists accept ACC

Furthermore, even if the claim that the Earth hasn't warmed in 17 years was valid, temperature is not the only measure of ACC, shocking right?! How does your model account for the increased frequency of extreme weather over the past decade compared to the previous ones?
Mr. Pada, I've cited many reputable sources with quotes by scientists, all you ever have to say is, you don't agree with them.
Where are your citations, or are you just prolonging the fact you got this one wrong?
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
Mr. Pada, I've cited many reputable sources with quotes by scientists, all you ever have to say is, you don't agree with them.
Where are your citations, or are you just prolonging the fact you got this one wrong?
Until you can tell me what it would take to convince you, you have no business arguing anything further. It's an admission of defeat on your part.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
The co-founder of Greenpeace works for Nuclear Energy and Deforestation???

Man, how many cups deep in the coolaid are you?
you couldn't be any dumber if you tried, but you do keep trying.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Moore_(environmentalist)

In 2006, Moore became co-chair (with Christine Todd Whitman) of a new industry-funded initiative, the Clean and Safe Energy Coalition, which promotes increased use of nuclear energy.[SUP][25][/SUP][SUP][26][/SUP] In 2010, Moore was recruited to represent the Indonesian logging firm Asia Pulp & Paper (APP), a multi-national accused by activist groups of widespread and illegal rainforest clearance practices
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Be proud that you derailed yet another thread by attacking a posters facts on a completely unrelated issue. Now all you have to do is call him a racist, sexist, homophobe and pass out after drinking another beer and your day is done!
unlike you, muyloco is not a racist, bigot, homophobe, misogynist, or anything hateful.

he may be a bit slow on the uptake and a hopeless rabid partisan like you, but stupidity is not maliciousness.
 
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