Mohican's 2014 Season

[DonPetro]

Yea very cool stuff. Also looking at organic alcohols. I guess that would include grain alcohol which would likely be the easiest to obtain. Would be cool to have actual organic extract.

 

[Mohican]

I smoked a few vials of honey oil back in the day and I hear that it was made with isopropyl alcohol. That stuff was amazing but you would cough for 20 minutes after a hit.

 

[DonPetro]

Yea man isopropyl is what we always used back in the day until BHO took over. There must be residuals in the iso too though.

 

[SpicySativa]

Yea man isopropyl is what we always used back in the day until BHO took over. There must be residuals in the iso too though.

Here's thing about over-the-counter rubbing alcohol... It's composed of denatured alcohol, water, and "inert ingredients" added for the sole purpose of making the stuff unpalatable so idiots don't drink it. Why introduce foul-tasting "inert" ingredients if you don't need to? Who knows whether that "inert" stuff evaporates off or not....

 

[hyroot]

I agree with what you're saying here, but I just want to add something. First off, I'm personally not fond of wax. I find it very harsh, and the taste doesn't agree with me. It's just not a pleasant experience for me.

On the "contamination" front, keep in mind that the residual butane in wax is the very same butane that most folks burn and inhale each time they "Flic their Bic" and fire up a bowl of organic flowers. We all inhale LOTS of burned butane, and wax makers likely (hopefully) use a higher grade fuel than Bic. A hit of contaminated wax fired with hemp wick may in fact contain less burned butane than a hit of organic flowers lit with a lighter.

Not an argument in favor of wax, just food for thought. I try to vaporize or use hemp wick instead of lighters, but of course I still use them sometimes...

I'll take my organic ice water hash over wax any day...

bho also has benzene, propane propellants and several other chemicals I can't pronounce or spell off the top off my head. I prefer to use a glass wand or grievo or what ever they call it now with a torch. But yeah I use a lighter to sometimes. Bics put out less fuel than those cheaper transparent lighters that seem to only last a day or 2.

 

[SpicySativa]

Yuck... Benzene is SERIOUSLY nasty, carcinogenic, volatile stuff. I have heard of some using benzene as their solvent. They are signing themselves up for a Darwin Award. I suspect we're going to see an uptick in cancer rates among the tards who work with this stuff without proper PPE (in that case, full body suit, full-face respirator, or even SCBA).

 

[hyroot]

Yuck... Benzene is SERIOUSLY nasty, carcinogenic, volatile stuff. I have heard of some using benzene as their solvent. They are signing themselves up for a Darwin Award. I suspect we're going to see an uptick in cancer rates among the tards who work with this stuff without proper PPE (in that case, full body suit, full-face respirator, or even SCBA).

I honestly think that's why so many people get hospitalized from smoking bho. Not the thc . its horrible. I'd rather smoke shitty water hash. which I am.. I left it in the water for too long. Its gotten a little better with curing. almost a month of cure. the harshness went away . bubbles a little on first hit.

benzene is what people use with coca or they use gasoline if they cant get their hands on ether. disgusting stuff

 

[DonPetro]

We would not use the rubbing alcohol which is generally 70% ethanol or isopropyl but rather the 99% iso. But i hear ya man. I would rather have organic bud anyway. Always been iffy about the extracts.

 

[hyroot]

We would not use the rubbing alcohol which is generally 70% ethanol or isopropyl but rather the 99% iso. But i hear ya man. I would rather have organic bud anyway. Always been iffy about the extracts.

using iso , you have the same probability or even more so as bho of blowing yourself up.

 

[DonPetro]

I know its horrid stuff. If we couldnt do it outside we would open all the windows and doors and have fans blowing. We did it on a glass plate over simmering water on low heat. Always did small batches as well.

 

[hyroot]

I know its horrid stuff. If we couldnt do it outside we would open all the windows and doors and have fans blowing. We did it on a glass plate over simmering water on low heat. Always did small batches as well.

at least a fan can't spark a fire with iso like it can with butane

 

[SpicySativa]

ISO seems to burn much cooler than butane, too. As a "party trick" in high school I used to dip my finger in the bottle and light it on fire. You can actually let it burn for a few seconds before you even feel the heat.

It was fun, but dumb... Not suggested.

 

[hyroot]

ISO seems to burn much cooler than butane, too. As a "party trick" in high school I used to dip my finger in the bottle and light it on fire. You can actually let it burn for a few seconds before you even feel the heat.

It was fun, but dumb... Not suggested.

hahahaha i did that too.. my broyher got blisters from that. The stupid things we did as kids...

 

[Thundercat]

Iso is MUCH safer then butane!!! It is not a explosive gas at room temp.... Yes it is a flammable liquid, but its very different. Yes the vapors need to be vented, but its still much different the butane. It is also very clean if done correctly. When using ISO you only want to use 91% or better, and you want to do very cold fast washes. With true 91 or 99% ISO the only ingrediants are alcohol and water thats it nothing to leave traces unless you don't fully evaporate it. If done correctly it should be clean golden and taste like the material it came from.

Heres some QWISO I made a couple months ago.

 

[Mohican]

That is beautiful TC - How does it become oil?

 

[DonPetro]

Iso is MUCH safer then butane!!! It is not a explosive gas at room temp.... Yes it is a flammable liquid, but its very different. Yes the vapors need to be vented, but its still much different the butane. It is also very clean if done correctly. When using ISO you only want to use 91% or better, and you want to do very cold fast washes. With true 91 or 99% ISO the only ingrediants are alcohol and water thats it nothing to leave traces unless you don't fully evaporate it. If done correctly it should be clean golden and taste like the material it came from.

Heres some QWISO I made a couple months ago.

Dude! Thats the exact stuff we'd make and do it just like you said. Quick and cold. Awesome pic. Thank you.

 

[DonPetro]

That is beautiful TC - How does it become oil?

Its basically honey oil in hash form. No mess and no waste. We would press it into cubes.

 

[hyroot]

upadate mo


the jilly on the left is the mulanjie cross. the way they are growing compared to the others. I think these may be jilly phenos. much less stretching..

 

[DANKSWAG]

Iso is MUCH safer then butane!!! It is not a explosive gas at room temp.... Yes it is a flammable liquid, but its very different. Yes the vapors need to be vented, but its still much different the butane. It is also very clean if done correctly. When using ISO you only want to use 91% or better, and you want to do very cold fast washes. With true 91 or 99% ISO the only ingrediants are alcohol and water thats it nothing to leave traces unless you don't fully evaporate it. If done correctly it should be clean golden and taste like the material it came from.

Heres some QWISO I made a couple months ago.

Yo ThunderCat,

I could replace is isopropyl with 180 proof ever clear right? Then it would be called QWEVRCLR? Or QWEC?
So I understand it is best to freeze both the alcohol and buds. Then the wash is about 22 seconds?
Is it better to leave flowers intact or break apart?
I would image though some say remove stems etc those have trichomes so not sure why remove them?

Anywise yes I am hoping to be able use a Quick Wash with a clean solvent which seems to me high proof clear alcohol
and yet I want to ice water wash as well to not have to mess with solvents and cost.

DankSwag

 

[DANKSWAG]

I can't wait to try the Frenchy-gifted strawberry cough cannoli! I need to clear my schedule

S0 FREAKING JEALOUS I AM GREENER THEN MY PLANTS!

Must be nice, got to try the solar hit though. It got up to 60 in the GNW today!

DankSwag