captainmorgan
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Does anyone go to the Royal Oak meetings from here,I'm going tonight?
My Compassion
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captainmorgan
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http://www.mycompassion.org/
I think this is only the third meeting at the new Royal Oak location and my first time going there. I've gone to the Southgate one before.
buckaroo bonzai
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These are the folks that run 'mediswipe'.....in case your asleep or wanna support them......
i dont-
Michigan Compassion (DRCCC) is a 501(c)(3) Nonprofit organization. Contributions to Michigan Compassion (DRCCC) may be tax deductible.
Please consult your tax professional. CFC Code: 90376
- See more at: http://www.mycompassion.org/#sthash.FcXNwChh.dpuf
-their form of 'compassion' lies in how many they can get to join their corporate format--complete with retina and bio metric scan
buckaroo bonzai
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NurseNancy420
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And"Mediswipe" really? Sounds like a quick-wipe for a vaginal discharge. Gues u can read that a couple ways 
captainmorgan
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Just got back,I have a friend that goes regularly and this is the second time she has asked me to go.Don't know about any back room agenda they might have but they seem nice and they are a 501(3)(c) what ever that means.Both times I've gone they had a lawyer that talks about the latest rulings and laws and how to stay out of trouble,then takes questions. They talk about various medical issues and cannabis,tonight they talked about glaucoma.There was a new lady in her sixties tonight that came and has some medical issues and no cannabis experience,everyone seemed very helpful in explaining to her the options she had and even gave her a folder full of literature to give to her regular doctor.If there is a hidden agenda I would like to hear about it from someone that knows first hand and not some third hand rumor.
buckaroo bonzai
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I wouldnt say its a 'hidden agenda'.....its pretty much in the open if you research
but heres a couple links to a thread that speaks all about what they are about
http://michiganmedicalmarijuana.org/topic/43748-medical-marijuana-the-google-effect/
http://michiganmedicalmarijuana.org/topic/42819-mediswipe-is-not-about-patient-safety/page-5
you have to do a little reading and homework but if you 'cant' connect the dots then I doubt i can explain it to you....
ask capt morgan
this topic has been gone over many times in many forums
....google the proprietors names of both places--then research them unless you dont really give a fuk
....mediswipe and mi compassion
....lots of info out there
.....the husband is mediswipe and the wife runs mi compassion
its a free country tho[??] and you can believe and follow whoever or whatever you want.....
and support it too!
The compassion clubs are the box they want us in......mediswipe is one of the ends to the means.....just sayin-
buckaroo bonzai
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Posted 24 March 2013 - 03:02 PM
MEDISWIPE: The Newest Public Nuisance For Michigan's Medical Marijuana Industry?
A fried of mine called me yesterday to ask me if I had seen the article in the business section of the local paper about a company that moved it's corporate headquarters from West Palm Beach, Florida to Birmingham, Michigan recently in hopes of capitalizing on the growing medical marijuana industry here. The company, which goes by the name of "MediSwipe" these days is a publicly traded company that is taking a giant leap into the uncharted Michigan medical marijuana scene. It appears at first glance that MediSwipe has a good plan to achieve their lofty goals in Michigan, but further review leads one to conclude that this company doesn't have a clue what they are doing. With reports of a giant building that was leased, along with corporate office spaces in another location, and incredibly high projections for taking market share in the industry in a short amount of time, MediSwipe is making a huge gamble for their investors without much transparency into how they will achieve such heights with their current business model. MediSwipe claims that they will have nothing to do with supplying marijuana, but their actions lead one to believe that they are gearing up to be a giant dispensary. They claim to have promoted caregivers to their board who will facilitate their transfer of marijuana by providing a "virtual office space" as they call it.
Their CEO, Barry Michael Friedman clearly doesn't understand the medical marijuana industry as it applies to patients and caregivers in the state of Michigan. It's very evident to members of the marijuana community that Friedman has no clue what he is even talking about during his conference call on a stock website called, TheWallStreetAnalyst recently. He talks about marijuana patients going to traditional pharmacies to get their medicine, prescriptions for marijuana, and this is a good one... "medible data storage" office. Is this guy serious? First of all, there are no "prescriptions" for marijuana, and marijuana patients don't go down to their local Wallgreens pharmacy to pick up marijuana. This guy must be smoking some good stuff. That fact that he's even talking this way could mean the entire venture will be doomed from the start. Friedman talks openly about his offices providing a medible solution to patients who are seeking marijuana as medicine after the company itself used the recent Michigan Supreme Court ruling on SOM vs. McQueen as a press release to illustrate to their investors how their business plan would differ from the Michigan dispensaries currently being closed down in the state and how MediSwipe's model could be successfully implemented in the state in accordance with strict laws and guidelines for state marijuana compliance.
MediSwipe has failed to share with investors who the doctors are that they will be employing or partnering with. Several doctors have recently been charged in connection with operating fraudulently in the state and several other doctors are being heavily watched for their lack of ethics in providing quality of care and continuation of care within the board of medicine's guidelines for the state. One doctor near Troy, Michigan voluntarily surrendered their license as a result of the pressure from state officials to provide documentation on a patient they saw within the scope of the MMMA. Other doctors are giving away paraphernalia and "free marijuana" vouchers as a gimmick to lure potential marijuana patients into their offices even after it was found in court that physicians should not be operating this way. Most doctors in the state are fearful to provide certifications while possessing a controlled substance license and a federal DEA license to prescribe narcotics since Marijuana is a still classified as a schedule 1 drug under the Controlled Substances Act.
So how does MediSwipe guarantee that they can sustain professional relationships with medical marijuana physicians in such a tumultuous environment where the average span of a physician's participation in the industry is frequently less than a year? Better yet, how does MediSwipe figure they will turn a profit where physicians are offering patient licenses for as little as $49? Meanwhile, around the rest of the country, there are talks of states outright legalizing marijuana for recreational use led by Colorado and Washington ending prohibition on marijuana this past election. The legalization in those states destroyed the licensing requirements for marijuana users and resulted in an end to the marijuana licensing/certification businesses. How long does Michigan really have before it's voters decide to legalize marijuana for recreational use? Michigan currently holds the record in two categories for marijuana voting by setting a record for the amount of voters in favor of the Michigan Medical Marihuana Act with a whopping 63.4% approval rate in 2008 and then just recently in Ypsilanti with a 74% voter approved initiative to decriminalize marijuana in the city. And if that isn't enough, MediSwipe plans to open another office in Ann Arbor where marijuana has been decriminalized for over 40 years and was the first city in the United States to implement such an effort way ahead of its time. So are they really trying to get patients licensed or are they encroaching on the turf of dispensaries currently in the area with plans to facilitate the dispensing of marijuana to patients? This all seems like a wolf in sheep clothes to me.
I talked with one dispensary owner who was recently forced to shut down via a cease and desist letter from a prosecuting attorney to find out what their thoughts were over the weekend and to my surprise they thought the exact same thing. So is MediSwipe actually going to be just another dispensary with a fancy hold and wait strategy? And if so, how does this affect their publicly-traded status with federal prohibitions in place? One thing is for sure, CEO, Barry Michael Friedman is seriously misreading the market in Michigan. The icing on the cake during his conference call was his high level of commitment to implementing a "biometric security" requirement for marijuana patients to adhere to which would require either retinal scanning (eyeball scanning) or fingerprinting to be certified by one of their doctors and use their dispensary-like services. As a medical marijuana patient myself, there is one thing i can tell you about cannabis users... They have been made to feel for too long like criminals and the last thing we want in our state is some slick dealing Wall Street guy who thinks he is just going to jump on the scene here and start fingerprinting everybody for a marijuana card. A close business associate of mine posed another question: What if MediSwipe is in bed with state elected law-makers to amend the MMMA to comply with their proposed standards of requiring retinal scanning and fingerprinting to track patients' use of marijuana, caregivers' transfers, and a ton of other very private pieces of data. If this were the case, what would happen to Michigan's medical marijuana industry? Surely most of the "old-school hippies" like myself would drop out of the program. We all read 1984, and yes we don't like you taking samples of our body in order to tell us we can use something that has been around for 5000+ years and grows from the Earth. So maybe MediSwipe should take note to this rant and pack their bags and turn that ship back around to Florida. They clearly were unsuccessful in their business dealings in California and Colorado, so what's making them foam at the mouth for Michigan's marijuana program?
Further unveiling of MediSwipe's company history reveals some very telling information...
The company's most recent quarterly reports (found here: http://biz.yahoo.com...4/mwip10-q.html) show a grim outlook for the survivability of the company. The company states: "The independent auditors reports on our financial statements for the years ended December 31, 2011 and 2010 includes a "going concern" explanatory paragraph that describes substantial doubt about our ability to continue as a going concern. Management's plans in regard to the factors prompting the explanatory paragraph are discussed below and also in Note 11 to the condensed financial statements filed herein." So basically, if this were the lab report for an ailing patient, then MediSwipe is on life-support with a medically induced coma. The company claims it made only $812.00 ending September 30, 2012. The insider trading report on MediSwipe according to Reuters (found here: http://www.reuters.c...C=C4-Officers-5) shows how executives move money around in the company through stock transfers to key partners and even what appears to be close friends and family. Evidence here (http://www.investorp...HAEL/All Types/) shows the CEO collecting $92,700 from a sale of his stock just last month! If the CEO believed in his company's future mission then why would he sell off over 1Million shares?
MediSwipe, formerly Cannabis Medical Solutions has seen what state lawmakers and policy makers can do to their business model in other states where medical marijuana is legal. They learned very quickly after focusing a lot of their resources on merchant processing (taking credit cards) for California and Colorado dispensaries. When their payment gateways refused to take credit cards for marijuana for fear of violating interstate drug trafficking laws then MediSwipe found themselves in quite a pickle. Maybe they have learned from this. If MediSwipe does have ties to current legislators in Michigan then it would make sense that their projections for the future of the marijuana industry here would be aligned with their newly proposed business model. Ironically, they have drawn a lot of attention to HB 4271, the proposal by Rep. Mike Callton that was being discussed just days after the state Supreme Court essentially ruled that patient to patient dispensaries are illegal under Michigan's medical marijuana laws, a devastating decision that is forcing almost all of the estimated 75-100 dispensaries currently operating to close.
Apparently there is even more to dig up about MediSwipe's involvement with other organizations in Michigan. There seems to be recent involvement with a compassion club in Taylor, MI which is still operational despite the recent Supreme Court ruling. Michigan Compassion, as it is called is a company posing as a federally registered 501©3 corp, presumably to disguise the operations of the owner's husband who is a licensed caregiver in the state of Michigan. The owner's husband, Amish Parikh was recently promoted to the board of MediSwipe on March 8th: http://www.nasdaq.co...-20130308-00374
We won't be investing in MediSwipe, but we will be investigating their business a lot more over the next few weeks to see what this wolf is up to...
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Posted 24 March 2013 - 03:02 PM
MEDISWIPE: The Newest Public Nuisance For Michigan's Medical Marijuana Industry?
A fried of mine called me yesterday to ask me if I had seen the article in the business section of the local paper about a company that moved it's corporate headquarters from West Palm Beach, Florida to Birmingham, Michigan recently in hopes of capitalizing on the growing medical marijuana industry here. The company, which goes by the name of "MediSwipe" these days is a publicly traded company that is taking a giant leap into the uncharted Michigan medical marijuana scene. It appears at first glance that MediSwipe has a good plan to achieve their lofty goals in Michigan, but further review leads one to conclude that this company doesn't have a clue what they are doing. With reports of a giant building that was leased, along with corporate office spaces in another location, and incredibly high projections for taking market share in the industry in a short amount of time, MediSwipe is making a huge gamble for their investors without much transparency into how they will achieve such heights with their current business model. MediSwipe claims that they will have nothing to do with supplying marijuana, but their actions lead one to believe that they are gearing up to be a giant dispensary. They claim to have promoted caregivers to their board who will facilitate their transfer of marijuana by providing a "virtual office space" as they call it.
Their CEO, Barry Michael Friedman clearly doesn't understand the medical marijuana industry as it applies to patients and caregivers in the state of Michigan. It's very evident to members of the marijuana community that Friedman has no clue what he is even talking about during his conference call on a stock website called, TheWallStreetAnalyst recently. He talks about marijuana patients going to traditional pharmacies to get their medicine, prescriptions for marijuana, and this is a good one... "medible data storage" office. Is this guy serious? First of all, there are no "prescriptions" for marijuana, and marijuana patients don't go down to their local Wallgreens pharmacy to pick up marijuana. This guy must be smoking some good stuff. That fact that he's even talking this way could mean the entire venture will be doomed from the start. Friedman talks openly about his offices providing a medible solution to patients who are seeking marijuana as medicine after the company itself used the recent Michigan Supreme Court ruling on SOM vs. McQueen as a press release to illustrate to their investors how their business plan would differ from the Michigan dispensaries currently being closed down in the state and how MediSwipe's model could be successfully implemented in the state in accordance with strict laws and guidelines for state marijuana compliance.
MediSwipe has failed to share with investors who the doctors are that they will be employing or partnering with. Several doctors have recently been charged in connection with operating fraudulently in the state and several other doctors are being heavily watched for their lack of ethics in providing quality of care and continuation of care within the board of medicine's guidelines for the state. One doctor near Troy, Michigan voluntarily surrendered their license as a result of the pressure from state officials to provide documentation on a patient they saw within the scope of the MMMA. Other doctors are giving away paraphernalia and "free marijuana" vouchers as a gimmick to lure potential marijuana patients into their offices even after it was found in court that physicians should not be operating this way. Most doctors in the state are fearful to provide certifications while possessing a controlled substance license and a federal DEA license to prescribe narcotics since Marijuana is a still classified as a schedule 1 drug under the Controlled Substances Act.
So how does MediSwipe guarantee that they can sustain professional relationships with medical marijuana physicians in such a tumultuous environment where the average span of a physician's participation in the industry is frequently less than a year? Better yet, how does MediSwipe figure they will turn a profit where physicians are offering patient licenses for as little as $49? Meanwhile, around the rest of the country, there are talks of states outright legalizing marijuana for recreational use led by Colorado and Washington ending prohibition on marijuana this past election. The legalization in those states destroyed the licensing requirements for marijuana users and resulted in an end to the marijuana licensing/certification businesses. How long does Michigan really have before it's voters decide to legalize marijuana for recreational use? Michigan currently holds the record in two categories for marijuana voting by setting a record for the amount of voters in favor of the Michigan Medical Marihuana Act with a whopping 63.4% approval rate in 2008 and then just recently in Ypsilanti with a 74% voter approved initiative to decriminalize marijuana in the city. And if that isn't enough, MediSwipe plans to open another office in Ann Arbor where marijuana has been decriminalized for over 40 years and was the first city in the United States to implement such an effort way ahead of its time. So are they really trying to get patients licensed or are they encroaching on the turf of dispensaries currently in the area with plans to facilitate the dispensing of marijuana to patients? This all seems like a wolf in sheep clothes to me.
I talked with one dispensary owner who was recently forced to shut down via a cease and desist letter from a prosecuting attorney to find out what their thoughts were over the weekend and to my surprise they thought the exact same thing. So is MediSwipe actually going to be just another dispensary with a fancy hold and wait strategy? And if so, how does this affect their publicly-traded status with federal prohibitions in place? One thing is for sure, CEO, Barry Michael Friedman is seriously misreading the market in Michigan. The icing on the cake during his conference call was his high level of commitment to implementing a "biometric security" requirement for marijuana patients to adhere to which would require either retinal scanning (eyeball scanning) or fingerprinting to be certified by one of their doctors and use their dispensary-like services. As a medical marijuana patient myself, there is one thing i can tell you about cannabis users... They have been made to feel for too long like criminals and the last thing we want in our state is some slick dealing Wall Street guy who thinks he is just going to jump on the scene here and start fingerprinting everybody for a marijuana card. A close business associate of mine posed another question: What if MediSwipe is in bed with state elected law-makers to amend the MMMA to comply with their proposed standards of requiring retinal scanning and fingerprinting to track patients' use of marijuana, caregivers' transfers, and a ton of other very private pieces of data. If this were the case, what would happen to Michigan's medical marijuana industry? Surely most of the "old-school hippies" like myself would drop out of the program. We all read 1984, and yes we don't like you taking samples of our body in order to tell us we can use something that has been around for 5000+ years and grows from the Earth. So maybe MediSwipe should take note to this rant and pack their bags and turn that ship back around to Florida. They clearly were unsuccessful in their business dealings in California and Colorado, so what's making them foam at the mouth for Michigan's marijuana program?
Further unveiling of MediSwipe's company history reveals some very telling information...
The company's most recent quarterly reports (found here: http://biz.yahoo.com...4/mwip10-q.html) show a grim outlook for the survivability of the company. The company states: "The independent auditors reports on our financial statements for the years ended December 31, 2011 and 2010 includes a "going concern" explanatory paragraph that describes substantial doubt about our ability to continue as a going concern. Management's plans in regard to the factors prompting the explanatory paragraph are discussed below and also in Note 11 to the condensed financial statements filed herein." So basically, if this were the lab report for an ailing patient, then MediSwipe is on life-support with a medically induced coma. The company claims it made only $812.00 ending September 30, 2012. The insider trading report on MediSwipe according to Reuters (found here: http://www.reuters.c...C=C4-Officers-5) shows how executives move money around in the company through stock transfers to key partners and even what appears to be close friends and family. Evidence here (http://www.investorp...HAEL/All Types/) shows the CEO collecting $92,700 from a sale of his stock just last month! If the CEO believed in his company's future mission then why would he sell off over 1Million shares?
MediSwipe, formerly Cannabis Medical Solutions has seen what state lawmakers and policy makers can do to their business model in other states where medical marijuana is legal. They learned very quickly after focusing a lot of their resources on merchant processing (taking credit cards) for California and Colorado dispensaries. When their payment gateways refused to take credit cards for marijuana for fear of violating interstate drug trafficking laws then MediSwipe found themselves in quite a pickle. Maybe they have learned from this. If MediSwipe does have ties to current legislators in Michigan then it would make sense that their projections for the future of the marijuana industry here would be aligned with their newly proposed business model. Ironically, they have drawn a lot of attention to HB 4271, the proposal by Rep. Mike Callton that was being discussed just days after the state Supreme Court essentially ruled that patient to patient dispensaries are illegal under Michigan's medical marijuana laws, a devastating decision that is forcing almost all of the estimated 75-100 dispensaries currently operating to close.
Apparently there is even more to dig up about MediSwipe's involvement with other organizations in Michigan. There seems to be recent involvement with a compassion club in Taylor, MI which is still operational despite the recent Supreme Court ruling. Michigan Compassion, as it is called is a company posing as a federally registered 501©3 corp, presumably to disguise the operations of the owner's husband who is a licensed caregiver in the state of Michigan. The owner's husband, Amish Parikh was recently promoted to the board of MediSwipe on March 8th: http://www.nasdaq.co...-20130308-00374
We won't be investing in MediSwipe, but we will be investigating their business a lot more over the next few weeks to see what this wolf is up to...
buckaroo bonzai
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Enough............???
have a joint and relax.....
have a joint and relax.....
captainmorgan
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Thanks for the info bb,I'll do some reading I guess. Didn't mean to come off defensive but this forum really seems to have been taken over by the trolls lately.I've only been to two local meetings and they seem very helpful and concerned for patients and caregivers and I've never heard anything in the way of agenda other than education or even their view on how the laws should be written.Maybe they don't push that at local meetings and save it for conferences and such.
NurseNancy420
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Have they mentioned any connection to mediswipe? If not why?
Any good con needs shills. Needs a clean front.ask JB from TSD.. If you can find him
DemonTrich
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if you want a local compassion club, please check out the MOCC (Macomb Oakland Compassion Club) (thc4u.com). none of the big pharma bullshit. they are a non profit, and have monthly meetings.
captainmorgan
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Thanks for all the info bb,I guess there is no bottom for how low some people will sink.Enough............???
have a joint and relax.....
I've only gone a couple times to keep my friend company,she was quite shocked when I told her today about this and showed her he was on board of mediswipe. Shes been going for a year or more and had never heard of mediswipe.The only thing I found on the mycompassion web site was a mention of being involved in trying to get it rescheduled,but it doesn't say to what level and any goal for that.If the corporate rats want control they need it to be schedule II right?
Thanks I'll check them out,they meet not far from the other one.
captainmorgan
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Something fishy happening at My Compassion,the treasurer has left the state supposedly and no more meetings at Taylor or Royal Oak,one tonight in Ann Arbor. My friend continued to attend but wants to find another group now,MOCC has no meetings listed and no phone #. Are there any good groups in the Detroit area?
captainmorgan
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Email bounced back from MOCC,no way to contact them I guess,seems shady.
NurseNancy420
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For a social setting you can't beat Translove energies on Sunday nights. Great music folks n fellowship... And some pretty sharp people
captainmorgan
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Sounds a little kinky. I went to their web site and most of the site doesn't work,guess I'll have to call them. This is more for my friend that was with me at the roostertail and the glue cup. She has a couple female patients that liked going with her to the My Compassion meetings in Royal Oak to keep up with things,they live in the RO area. I'm a little concerned with the area it's in,how safe would it be for a woman to go,would you recommend a male escort?
captainmorgan
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Tried calling TLE and no answer,their voicemail is also full so couldn't leave a message.