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tyler.durden

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Exactly. You can only make your critical deductions based off what I say. You know Im being honest and havent lied about anything, or at least you should know this.
Honestly, George, I think you lie to yourself constantly: instead of keeping with the admission that you don't know the specifics of something, you make them up for various reasons. You convince yourself of the least likely answer by using logical fallacies, partly because you are too lazy to look at the links I posted and familiarize yourself with them. Once you convince yourself via a faulty thinking process you then believe your own errors, so what you say isn't technically lies. What you say is still erroneous, though, because it didn't happen in reality. There is no your truth and my truth, there is objective reality, and what we believe either corresponds with the happenings of objective reality or they do not...

You havent caught Me lying. The thing about you, Tyler, is that you try and debunk almost everything I say.
Most of what I read from you is wrong, so it's not hard to show you where I see the many errors. Sometimes you post really lucid, insightful things and I'm quick to point out when I witness that. It would be nice if those posts became the majority, though...

The chances of seeing an alien might be naught, but the fact is that Im CLAIMING to have seen an alien.
So to clarify, there's zero (naught) chance you saw an alien but you are claiming to have seen one, anyway. Got it. Thanks for making my point for me...

Believe Me or not. It makes no difference to Me if YOU believe I saw an alien or not; the fact is that either I saw an alien or I didnt, this is the only dichotomy possible.
Right...


Its the eye witnesses (or Me) testimony verses an opinion of someone (you) hearing the eye witnesses testimony. Should the readers believe the eye witnesses testimony or someone that heard the eye witnesses testimony?
In this case, I'd urge members to choose the latter. Taking into consideration your beliefs (that you're christ, see aliens, multiple hospitaliztions, etc..) and rants, I think a jury would have to take your testimony on anything with a shaker of salt. Eye witness testimony is infamously unreliable, although it usually holds weight with juries. Much of the time, when police ask ten eye witnesses exactly what they saw after a crime occurred, they will get ten very different testimonies. This is because there are many factors in memory in human consciousness. Anxiety, stress, weapon (or other) focus, etc.. Many people assume that our memories work much like a video recorder, and that our brains store info similarly, and can be recalled simalarly. This isn't the case, the brain needs to reconstruct the memory from different locations and piece it back together to attempt to get the gist or meaning of what they saw. This is basic cognitive science and it is fascinating. But sometimes, lacking more concrete evidence like dna or hard copy evidence, eye witness is the best we can do, given the source is credible and of sound mind...


I still believe Im right.
No doubt...
Believe Me or not, Im claiming to have seen an alien.
I choose not...

Your beliefs dont change the fact that I either saw an alien or I didnt.
Neither do yours...

Either way, it is a fact that Im claiming to have seen an alien, thats a fact.
Still got it...

There is no way to time travel into the past to ascertain whether I saw an alien or not, you can only read (and watch My youtube video) My eye witness testimony.
Been there, done that. I am less convinced after seeing the testimony...

Its possible that other people have seen real aliens, I doubt Im the only One.
I don't think you're the only one, either...

Its also possible that the government might be working with the aliens and see them every day. Its possible anyways. I highly doubt Im the only One that has ever seen an alien.
It is also possible that they are working with dragons and werewolves, but I doubt that, too. I'm such a doubter...
My testimony is a form of evidence
No, it isn't...

it might not be enough for the scientists and the skeptics, but its still a fact that Im claiming to have seen an alien in August of 2012, regardless how YOU would explain it.
I understand. But that isn't honest or true...
But in court, eye witness testimony is sometimes the best form of evidence that the judge can get.
Yes, it's unfortunate when it has to come to that...

Can you quote Me one time that I told an INTENTIONAL lie?
Sure - https://www.rollitup.org/spirituality-sexuality-philosophy/794678-i-saw-spiritual-alien-now.html - Post #38 when mudminer pointed out your dishonesty, and your subsequent admission. I love written forums...
You cant prove ONE time I have hallucinated (besides when I tripped on salvia).
You can't prove you haven't...
And for the record, I dont have false memories
LOL! How would you know?
if anything, I just forget it all together. Unless you can prove I have false memories?
It is very common. It would be difficult to find someone who didn't have any. It's just the way the mind works sometimes...
I invite you to come to Massachusetts, and look at the UFOs yourself and tell Me if I didnt describe them right, or I decieved anyone in any way.
Here's a more realistic solution, George: why not put on your big boy pants and ask mommy for a $100 loan. That way you could purchase a video camera and post YT links for us here...

The UFOs are demonstrable, I have been seeing them for over 5 months now,
Strange then that you haven't demonstrated it once in all that time...


You can either assume the UFOs are people, alien, or drones.
One can assume that, but that wouldn't get them any closer to the truth of the matter...

But if they are drones, either people or aliens made them.
Or Smurfs. Smurfs are supposed to be good at making things...

Come to Massachusetts and see the UFOs for yourself... until then, youre just making the assumption that Im seeing an optical illusion, or whatever.
The loan from mom and camera idea is better...

You honestly dont get it, have you not read My testimony? But thats right, you dont believe a word I have to say. To think YOU know what I AM seeing is dishonest and quite ignorant in fact.
I've stated several times that neither you, nor I, know what you are seeing. I am merely pointed out more likely explanations than yours. You really like those strawmen...

You have made youre assumptions based on what I, the witness, have said. I am basing My assumptions on what I PERSONALLY have seen.
Or think you have seen...
You cant see the alien I saw (and I doubt I will ever see an alien again too), but you CAN see the UFOs I see, they are demonstrable.
Get that camera, George. Then we'll see who's full of shit...
Dont tell Me Im being dishonest when I havent lied.
But you have, see link above...
 

Skuxx

Well-Known Member
^ He said that there would be no point in video recording them, because they would appear as stars.

Lol @ your new sig
 

Nevaeh420

Well-Known Member
Dude, are you his psychologist or something? :D
You totally sound like you've been assigned to follow Mr. Navaeh and tell him how stupid he is lol. no offense but that made me laugh :D
Beef and especially, Tyler, love to tell Me Im erroneous all the time, even when its subjective material we are talking about.

They basically tell Me how "stupid" I am on a daily basis.

Either way, I like Beef and Tyler; I talk to them enough to consider them My online friends. I think they are just saying what they believe, from an Atheists perspective. I speak from a perspective with a Christ complex, our views are innately going to clash.

~PEACE~
 

noham

Active Member
Beef and especially, Tyler, love to tell Me Im erroneous all the time, even when its subjective material we are talking about.

They basically tell Me how "stupid" I am on a daily basis.

Either way, I like Beef and Tyler; I talk to them enough to consider them My online friends. I think they are just saying what they believe, from an Atheists perspective. I speak from a perspective with a Christ complex, our views are innately going to clash.

~PEACE~
Life must be tough for you. So is for everyone who sees a glimpse of truth.
 

Nevaeh420

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It's more so about showing how a lack of critical thinking faculties leads to false beliefs.

Nevaeh can't accept the fact that what he thinks he saw was more likely something of terrestrial origins. So, for the other people that do have the critical thinking faculties required to come to the proper conclusions, but might not have ever heard the logical side of the argument, these explanations (and the pointing out of the logical inconsistencies/fallacies Nevaeh is making) are aimed at preventing other people from following down Nevaeh's path of willful ignorance and intellectual dishonesty.

Nevaeh is, to my perception, un-salvageable.
The thing is this: what if Im right? What if I did see an ACTUAL REAL ALIEN? and what if I really am Christ? and what if I do see UFOs? and what if My prophecies are going to be fulfilled? and what if I havent told one lie?

But, YOU dont believe in these things, so you are going to use your faculities to refute, rebuttal, and TRY and prove Me wrong because YOU dont believe these things.

P.S. If you want to talk about aliens with Me, go to My thread about aliens.

~PEACE~
 

midgetaus

Member
The thing is this: what if Im right? What if I did see an ACTUAL REAL ALIEN? and what if I really am Christ? and what if I do see UFOs? and what if My prophecies are going to be fulfilled? and what if I havent told one lie?

But, YOU dont believe in these things, so you are going to use your faculities to refute, rebuttal, and TRY and prove Me wrong because YOU dont believe these things.

P.S. If you want to talk about aliens with Me, go to My thread about aliens.

~PEACE~
Paging Moulder and Scully,


Agents Moulder and Scully please report to the front desk
 

Nevaeh420

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It is one of my new hobbies ;) BB is right, at this point I'm posting on the side of logic and reason for other members who witness the exchange. If teams of mental professionals haven't had success with George, I don't see me having much effect. But, he does continue to engage and question, so there is a tiny glimmer of hope that all is not lost with him. Either way, it's better than TV...
Thats one of the reasons why I blog, because its better then watching TV or just being bored.

Last time I went to the mental hospital, the doctor took Me off of two medications, even though I told him about the alien I saw, the UFOs I see, and My Christ complex. Pretty soon, the only pill I will be taking is a sleeping pill- melatonin; but I do get an antipsychotic injection too every 3 weeks... but that it.

~PEACE~
 

Nevaeh420

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The CO2 may have risen because there are less and less plants on earth? Who knew what the earth looked like in the past.
Maybe it was the Biblical Eden with a hell of a lot of green.
...and with humanking driven out of Eden, it become like this, not them moving out, but Eden being a state of earth.


Not being dumb is my most important daily routine.
I think in the Jurassic period the co2 levels were higher and everything was tropical. Whats wrong with everything being tropical?

Dont quote Me on this because Im not sure.

~PEACE~
 

Nevaeh420

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I didn't say that.



Saying life elsewhere in the universe is possible is one thing, saying it spies on you from your neighbours house is another.



Not very likely. There are trillions of planets in just our galaxy alone. I don't think you understand the number 100 trillion, and just how much that is.



We know what your opinion is, we're just telling you your most likely wrong, and why you're most likely wrong.



Let's see; you've been in and our of mental hospitals and prison, and you make mistakes in logic that children make.



The difference between you and I is that even if I did see what I thought was an alien in a translucent space suit spying on me from my neighbours house, I would attempt to explain what I saw by rational means, using the most likely explanation as my answer. You, on the other hand, just jump to conclusions and call it fact, when it's just intellectual dishonesty.



I'm sure If I had the same delusion as you, I'd probably think it wasn't e delusion either.



UFO's are by definition, unidentified, and do not, for an alien, make.
The difference between Me and you is that you believe the aliens have NOT visited the earth out of your ignorant biased opinion, because you havent seen proof for the contrary.

I, on the other hand, believe aliens HAVE and DO visit earth from My personal experience; if I did indeed see an alien and the UFOs I see are extraterrestrial.

Most likely, I wouldnt believe aliens visit the earth either if I wasnt an eye witness. I would also, probably, be skeptical of even UFOs if I never saw them in person. The only logical thing to do is be skeptical of uncertain things without sufficient proof or evidence.

I dont blame you guys for not believing Me; chances are, I wouldnt believe Me either if I didnt actually see for Myself. Words can only describe so much, sometimes seeing is believing.

P.S. If you want to talk about My alien encounter, go to My thread about aliens.

~PEACE~
 

tyler.durden

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The thing is this: what if Im right? What if I did see an ACTUAL REAL ALIEN? and what if I really am Christ? and what if I do see UFOs? and what if My prophecies are going to be fulfilled?
What if any or the crazy shit people claim to have experienced is true? Werewolves, dragons, gnomes and fairies, Bigfoot, vampires, and gremlins? You probably don't believe in a lot of those things (I hope), why don't you? Because there is no empirical evidence for any of it. Same with your shit...

and what if I havent told one lie?
Well, we know that's not true...

But, YOU dont believe in these things, so you are going to use your faculities to refute, rebuttal, and TRY and prove Me wrong because YOU dont believe these things.
It's not about belief, it's about evidence and logic. We're not coming at you as atheists, we're wearing the skeptic's hat. We are using critical thinking to discern fact from fiction, and the complete lack of evidence and logic for your claims is why a rational person would not believe your stories...


Beef and especially, Tyler, love to tell Me Im erroneous all the time, even when its subjective material we are talking about.
That is another lie, that's two now. If the subject is of a subjective nature, I don't come at you. I actually post things like, 'Cool beliefs' because you are stating something subjective, i.e. what you believe. It's only when you posit your BS as facts/reality that we step in, because then you are stepping into the realm of objective reality and bullshit don't fly there...

They basically tell Me how "stupid" I am on a daily basis.
Stupid is as stupid posts...

Either way, I like Beef and Tyler; I talk to them enough to consider them My online friends. I think they are just saying what they believe, from an Atheists perspective. I speak from a perspective with a Christ complex, our views are innately going to clash.
It isn't an atheist perspective, it's a skeptics perspective utilizing critical thinking. Not all atheists are skeptics or have developed their critical thinking skills...
 

tyler.durden

Well-Known Member
The difference between Me and you is that you believe the aliens have NOT visited the earth out of your ignorant biased opinion, because you havent seen proof for the contrary.
Neither have you. It is your opinion that is ignorant and biased, you are the one with the agenda, desperate need to feel special without accomplishment, elementary school education (on your best days), and incredibly faulty thinking process...

I, on the other hand, believe aliens HAVE and DO visit earth from My personal experience; if I did indeed see an alien and the UFOs I see are extraterrestrial.
That's your belief, we're speaking about reality...

Most likely, I wouldnt believe aliens visit the earth either if I wasnt an eye witness. I would also, probably, be skeptical of even UFOs if I never saw them in person. The only logical thing to do is be skeptical of uncertain things without sufficient proof or evidence.
First his opinion is ignorant and biased, and now the only logical thing is to be skeptical? I'm getting dizzy...

I dont blame you guys for not believing Me; chances are, I wouldnt believe Me either if I didnt actually see for Myself. Words can only describe so much, sometimes seeing is believing.
And sometimes some believe regardless of what they see...

P.S. If you want to talk about My alien encounter, go to My thread about aliens.
He doesn't. And please, if you mean alien spacecraft, SAY THAT. Stop calling them UFOs if you've identified them. Show us you can learn something as simply as this differentiation. It's the failure to learn that is hampering your thinking process...

P.S. Sorry for stepping on your response, BB ;)
 

Nevaeh420

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Honestly, George, I think you lie to yourself constantly: instead of keeping with the admission that you don't know the specifics of something, you make them up for various reasons. You convince yourself of the least likely answer by using logical fallacies, partly because you are too lazy to look at the links I posted and familiarize yourself with them. Once you convince yourself via a faulty thinking process you then believe your own errors, so what you say isn't technically lies. What you say is still erroneous, though, because it didn't happen in reality. There is no your truth and my truth, there is objective reality, and what we believe either corresponds with the happenings of objective reality or they do not...



Most of what I read from you is wrong, so it's not hard to show you where I see the many errors. Sometimes you post really lucid, insightful things and I'm quick to point out when I witness that. It would be nice if those posts became the majority, though...



So to clarify, there's zero (naught) chance you saw an alien but you are claiming to have seen one, anyway. Got it. Thanks for making my point for me...



Right...




In this case, I'd urge members to choose the latter. Taking into consideration your beliefs (that you're christ, see aliens, multiple hospitaliztions, etc..) and rants, I think a jury would have to take your testimony on anything with a shaker of salt. Eye witness testimony is infamously unreliable, although it usually holds weight with juries. Much of the time, when police ask ten eye witnesses exactly what they saw after a crime occurred, they will get ten very different testimonies. This is because there are many factors in memory in human consciousness. Anxiety, stress, weapon (or other) focus, etc.. Many people assume that our memories work much like a video recorder, and that our brains store info similarly, and can be recalled simalarly. This isn't the case, the brain needs to reconstruct the memory from different locations and piece it back together to attempt to get the gist or meaning of what they saw. This is basic cognitive science and it is fascinating. But sometimes, lacking more concrete evidence like dna or hard copy evidence, eye witness is the best we can do, given the source is credible and of sound mind...




No doubt...


I choose not...



Neither do yours...



Still got it...



Been there, done that. I am less convinced after seeing the testimony...



I don't think you're the only one, either...



It is also possible that they are working with dragons and werewolves, but I doubt that, too. I'm such a doubter...


No, it isn't...



I understand. But that isn't honest or true...


Yes, it's unfortunate when it has to come to that...



Sure - https://www.rollitup.org/spirituality-sexuality-philosophy/794678-i-saw-spiritual-alien-now.html - Post #38 when mudminer pointed out your dishonesty, and your subsequent admission. I love written forums...


You can't prove you haven't...


LOL! How would you know?


It is very common. It would be difficult to find someone who didn't have any. It's just the way the mind works sometimes...


Here's a more realistic solution, George: why not put on your big boy pants and ask mommy for a $100 loan. That way you could purchase a video camera and post YT links for us here...



Strange then that you haven't demonstrated it once in all that time...




One can assume that, but that wouldn't get them any closer to the truth of the matter...



Or Smurfs. Smurfs are supposed to be good at making things...



The loan from mom and camera idea is better...



I've stated several times that neither you, nor I, know what you are seeing. I am merely pointed out more likely explanations than yours. You really like those strawmen...



Or think you have seen...


Get that camera, George. Then we'll see who's full of shit...


But you have, see link above...
Instead of rebuttaling all that, Im going to agree to disagree.

I cant even "prove" that Im George Manuel Oliveira, over the internet; nevermind anything that I saw in My life. I cant prove (over the internet) that My youtube videos of Myself are even Me. You assume Im George (Manuel Oliveira), because I have said it enough and thats your well deduced assumption, you cant prove Im George. You can only prove that "Nevaeh420" has said whats been said on RIU, including the videos that I have linked too. You dont really know if "Nevaeh420", is one person posting or many people posting. How would you know? You only assume Im One Person, and youre correct, but you dont KNOW.

I could be an 18 year old punk dude, or I could be a 100 year old, old lady; you dont KNOW now, do you? Or I could be an 18 year old punk dude working in collaboration with the 100 year old, old lady and many other people.

My point is that you have your assumptions about Me because of what I have said, and some of your assumptions are correct but not all of them. I have assumptions as well, and some of My assumptions are correct but not all of them. You posit that Im telling lies because My assumptions, conjecture, and beliefs dont conform to YOUR reality. Everyones reality is different but in some ways similar.

You call Me George, and you are correct, Im George. But if I was really "Dick Hurts" (from Holding, lol) you would be wrong to call Me George, but you wouldny be telling a lie. Same thing with Me, your real name might not be "Tyler Durden", but I call you that; is that Me lying again? because its not the real truth.

Dont call Me a liar ever agian when Im saying what I believe, theories, speculation, assumptions, or conjecture. Im sick of it. How can someone lie when they are telling THEIR truth? They still might be wrong, but they are NOT LYING.

I believe whatever I type, feel free to debate, but dont call Me names because it makes YOU look childish.

You have assumptions that are true and some that are erroneous; Me too.

No one is perfect.

~PEACE~
 

midgetaus

Member
Instead of rebuttaling all that, Im going to agree to disagree.

I cant even "prove" that Im George Manuel Oliveira, over the internet; nevermind anything that I saw in My life. I cant prove (over the internet) that My youtube videos of Myself are even Me. You assume Im George (Manuel Oliveira), because I have said it enough and thats your well deduced assumption, you cant prove Im George. You can only prove that "Nevaeh420" has said whats been said on RIU, including the videos that I have linked too. You dont really know if "Nevaeh420", is one person posting or many people posting. How would you know? You only assume Im One Person, and youre correct, but you dont KNOW.

I could be an 18 year old punk dude, or I could be a 100 year old, old lady; you dont KNOW now, do you? Or I could be an 18 year old punk dude working in collaboration with the 100 year old, old lady and many other people.

My point is that you have your assumptions about Me because of what I have said, and some of your assumptions are correct but not all of them. I have assumptions as well, and some of My assumptions are correct but not all of them. You posit that Im telling lies because My assumptions, conjecture, and beliefs dont conform to YOUR reality. Everyones reality is different but in some ways similar.

You call Me George, and you are correct, Im George. But if I was really "Dick Hurts" (from Holding, lol) you would be wrong to call Me George, but you wouldny be telling a lie. Same thing with Me, your real name might not be "Tyler Durden", but I call you that; is that Me lying again? because its not the real truth.

Dont call Me a liar ever agian when Im saying what I believe, theories, speculation, assumptions, or conjecture. Im sick of it. How can someone lie when they are telling THEIR truth? They still might be wrong, but they are NOT LYING.

I believe whatever I type, feel free to debate, but dont call Me names because it makes YOU look childish.

You have assumptions that are true and some that are erroneous; Me too.

No one is perfect.

~PEACE~

photo with your passport. drivers license and your face in it... easier than you think
 

Nevaeh420

Well-Known Member
photo with your passport. drivers license and your face in it... easier than you think
I really dont have to PROVE anything to you guys.

Its either you believe Me or you dont. Either way, its not going to prove anything, for example, even if I was proven to be telling the Truth about everything I have said, its not going to make a difference because I dont think Im talking to anyone that can make a difference for Me. Hypothetically, Im telling the Truth, so what? Whos going to actually do something about it like write a biography about Me or advocate for Me in ANY way? No one cares that much about Me, after all, Im just some random guy on the internet.

So it doesnt matter to Me if you believe everything I say or nothing, because whos going to advocate for Me? No one is gioing to advocate for Me, so what do I care what I can "prove"?

After all, Im just on a website with a bunch of "stoners". You guys are important to Me, but you cant advocate for Me because no one cares what I say anyways.

Its either you believe Me or you dont. Why do I have to prove anything?

~PEACE~
 

midgetaus

Member
I really dont have to PROVE anything to you guys.

Its either you believe Me or you dont. Either way, its not going to prove anything, for example, even if I was proven to be telling the Truth about everything I have said, its not going to make a difference because I dont think Im talking to anyone that can make a difference for Me. Hypothetically, Im telling the Truth, so what? Whos going to actually do something about it like write a biography about Me or advocate for Me in ANY way? No one cares that much about Me, after all, Im just some random guy on the internet.

So it doesnt matter to Me if you believe everything I say or nothing, because whos going to advocate for Me? No one is gioing to advocate for Me, so what do I care what I can "prove"?

After all, Im just on a website with a bunch of "stoners". You guys are important to Me, but you cant advocate for Me because no one cares what I say anyways.

Its either you believe Me or you dont. Why do I have to prove anything?

~PEACE~
I didnt request you to prove it I merely gave you the option of how you could when you said you couldnt


settle down princess
 

Nevaeh420

Well-Known Member
^ He said that there would be no point in video recording them, because they would appear as stars.

Lol @ your new sig
No, I believe I said that there would be no point in taking a PICTURE because then they would just look like stars.

But if I had a VIDEO CAMERA, with a good zoom, you could see them MOVING too. Even if I did go out and buy a video camera, it would be pointless because I only have a smartphone for the internet at My house. I would need to download the footage from the video camera to a real computer with a USB connection; which I dont have right now. I have laptops but no internet connection right now.

You either believe Me or you dont.

~PEACE~
 

Nevaeh420

Well-Known Member
I didnt request you to prove it I merely gave you the option of how you could when you said you couldnt


settle down princess
Im not mad at YOU in any way. Im just frustrated that SOME people are calling Me a liar and other names.

Im just disappointed that I cant prove the objective things that Im claiming.

Im not in any way mad at YOU Midgetaus, sometimes I quote one person and speak to others too.

~PEACE~
 

tyler.durden

Well-Known Member
Instead of rebuttaling all that, Im going to agree to disagree.

I cant even "prove" that Im George Manuel Oliveira, over the internet; nevermind anything that I saw in My life. I cant prove (over the internet) that My youtube videos of Myself are even Me. You assume Im George (Manuel Oliveira), because I have said it enough and thats your well deduced assumption, you cant prove Im George. You can only prove that "Nevaeh420" has said whats been said on RIU, including the videos that I have linked too. You dont really know if "Nevaeh420", is one person posting or many people posting. How would you know? You only assume Im One Person, and youre correct, but you dont KNOW.

I could be an 18 year old punk dude, or I could be a 100 year old, old lady; you dont KNOW now, do you? Or I could be an 18 year old punk dude working in collaboration with the 100 year old, old lady and many other people.
This is all true, George. None of us know who the other truly is. When you have a group of guys that all do something that carries mandatory minimum prison sentences, they need to keep anonymous to remain free. But there is a world of difference in belief when someone says, 'I drove to the store today', vs., 'I saw an advanced being that traveled trillions of miles to get here and has technology far advanced beyond our own', or, 'I'm Christ and here to save the world'. Can you see the difference in the level of skepticism required for a mundane, everyday claim and what would be the most significant discovery ever?
My point is that you have your assumptions about Me because of what I have said, and some of your assumptions are correct but not all of them.
Just out of curiosity, which of my assumptions aren't correct?
I have assumptions as well, and some of My assumptions are correct but not all of them.
Just out of curiosity, which of your assumptions are incorrect?

You posit that Im telling lies because My assumptions, conjecture, and beliefs dont conform to YOUR reality. Everyones reality is different but in some ways similar.
You need to learn that there is only ONE reality, and everyone has a different perception of that objective reality. One's beliefs are either in line with objective reality, or they are not. And if not exactly spot on, some beliefs are much closer to O.R. than others. Lots of crazies like the idea that there are different realities, that way they can say anything and not be wrong. Doesn't work that way...
You call Me George, and you are correct, Im George. But if I was really "Dick Hurts" (from Holding, lol) you would be wrong to call Me George, but you wouldny be telling a lie. Same thing with Me, your real name might not be "Tyler Durden", but I call you that; is that Me lying again? because its not the real truth.
Nope. Like you said, an untruth is only a lie if it is intentional. Most of the erroneous things you say I do not consider lies, I've only caught you lying twice so far...
Dont call Me a liar ever agian when Im saying what I believe, theories, speculation, assumptions, or conjecture.
I've only called you a liar when you say untrue things that you KNOW are untrue...
Im sick of it. How can someone lie when they are telling THEIR truth?
There's only one truth, objective reality...
They still might be wrong, but they are NOT LYING
.

Only if they don't know any better. Once they know what they are saying is false, then they're lying. We've all got it now...
I believe whatever I type, feel free to debate, but dont call Me names because it makes YOU look childish.
Not everything you type...
You have assumptions that are true and some that are erroneous; Me too.
Again, which of my assumptions are erroneous? I only ask because I attempt to correct those as soon as they're pointed out to me...

No one is perfect.
True, but some try much, much harder than others and value honesty, critical thinking, logic and reality...
 
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