LP's and Wannabee's Get Your Own Forum-Don't post on the PATIENT forum

[R.Raider]

This system was not designed for patients. Most these LP's don't even consider the patient market, it's all about the big import/export dollars. Patients are just exploited for their "in" to this business. There's like 450 companies that have sent in applications, if they happen to all get licensed eventually that's approximately 83 patients per LP based on the current patient market. Does that make any sense to anyone? You think these companies are investing millions so they can get 83 customers a year? Not likely. HC, the RCMP and the Harper cronies have manipulated stats and spouted out right lies with all the corruption of the current system just so they could put forth these new regulations in the name of "public safety". Yeah right, these assholes just want a new tax revenue stream. And anybody that thinks this system is going to lead to legalization your sadly mistaken. Even if it does lead to a recreational market, it will be a highly regulated legal market, you still won't be growing your own because that's less tax for them on sales. I really do hope to see an LP that is patient focused and not profit driven. I'm just very skeptical of this whole thing. The Harper government seems to be taking 2 steps back while the rest of the world is making leaps and bounds with medical marijuana.

I'd be happy with 83. In fact I think I'd be maxed out at a 100. I plan on doing it all myself(except maybe trimmimg) so I can keep a close eye on everything and charge reasonable prices.

 

[VIANARCHRIS]

and, the (black) market is flush right now. All the backdoor growers are pumping out as much product as they can before the laws change...so I don't think that $140oz is going to stick around for too long. Once the abusers stop growing, prices will go up.

Also, people on here are saying that they grow a gram for pennies....do you factor in what your time is worth?

I have never paid more than $150/OZ ever on Vancouver Island and I've lived here since the 80's, that isn't going to change. Do you seriously think people are going to stop growing? There was a thriving cannabis trade long before the MMAR and that will continue until legalization. I'm one of the ones that grow for pennies a gram and no I don't factor in compensation for my time any more than grandma does for weeding her flower garden. That is the reason the MMPR will fail...why should I pay for a persons labour for something I do very well myself. LP's may have a place if participation is optional similar to HC' supply

 

[hwy420weed]

Hey, hey, hey now lol, I totally hear what you're saying but it's only a handful of people that are "being stupid", their is many more that are greatful for her contributions. I know you didn't mean that in a negative way but losing her would be a huge loss to this forum.

You know what..you're absolutely right. It is only a handful.

In regards to the $140 an oz..He's right about that..The black market are licking their lips and just waiting to jack the prices up. Just my prediction but the under ground market will have a good supply till end of June, dryish till end of September, outdoor grown weed will be around in October and then super dry..

For myself, I'm tired of shitty dealers, half ass smoke and having to bug friends to find smoke for me..It's a PITA.

I'm looking forward to LP mmj. When I'm close to running low, I go online, place an order and presto, the weed gets delivered. Sounds good to me!! Aside from bedrocan and cannimed, the other LPs know that they have to produce quality mmj or people will walk away. I live near Cannacure's building and saw the CEO walking around the property, so I went and spoke to him. I asked about their growing process and he told me that the drying and curing process alone will take up to a month. They're going to be a HUGE player in this game and they're not cutting corners. The minute that they start hiring, I will be the first in line. The CEO is such a nice guy, knows his stuff and truly cares about the patients. He told me that patients should be allowed to grow 4-5 plants in their back yard or in their house if the are the owners of the house. Since they wont be able to, it's up to LPs to produce top quality mj, make it affordable and offer variety. I mentioned that if mj goes rec, that patients are going to feel it very hard with pricing. He agreed and said that if someone has been diagnosed with an illness that mj will benefit them that they are going to lock the prices around $6-$7 a gram for them. He said that charging patients $9+ per gram for meds is outrageous and they will not be a part of that.

Not all LPs are bad

 

[j0yr1d3]

I'd be happy with 83. In fact I think I'd be maxed out at a 100. I plan on doing it all myself(except maybe trimmimg) so I can keep a close eye on everything and charge reasonable prices.

Good luck getting licensed and up and running before what little patient market is swallowed up. You are going to have to fight tooth n nail for every one of those customers. Also what happens in a year from now when Trudeau is running the show? You think he's going to keep the current model and just open these LP's up to the recreational market? Or are we going to see a totally new, more just system for all?

 

[NorthernLass]

Good luck getting licensed and up and running before what little patient market is swallowed up. You are going to have to fight tooth n nail for every one of those customers. Also what happens in a year from now when Trudeau is running the show? You think he's going to keep the current model and just open these LP's up to the recreational market? Or are we going to see a totally new, more just system for all?

I think the big boys (Tweed, Bedrocan, etc) are betting on being first in line when things are legalized. Tweed bought a facility 3X larger than they say they actually need to produce their licenced quantity. On the day it becomes legal they will have a system with all the kinks worked out in place and ready to scale up immediately. Boom. First in, grab market share and then fight to keep it. That's way easier than coming in later and fighting to steal market share.

Also, remember they have not built their business models on 40,000 patients. They are planning on the 400,000 that will be coming into the system over the next few years. When it becomes legal they could be looking at 1-3,000,000 recreational users. Now the investment starts to make sense.

 

[j0yr1d3]

I think the big boys (Tweed, Bedrocan, etc) are betting on being first in line when things are legalized. Tweed bought a facility 3X larger than they say they actually need to produce their licenced quantity. On the day it becomes legal they will have a system with all the kinks worked out in place and ready to scale up immediately. Boom. First in, grab market share and then fight to keep it. That's way easier than coming in later and fighting to steal market share.

Also, remember they have not built their business models on 40,000 patients. They are planning on the 400,000 that will be coming into the system over the next few years. When it becomes legal they could be looking at 1-3,000,000 recreational users. Now the investment starts to make sense.

400,000 patients in 10 years? This system won't even be around in 10 years let alone have 400,000 patients. It's becoming even harder to access medical marijuana under these new regulations, especially in places like Alberta. No doctors are signing off on medical marijuana here and the college of physicians are making it near impossible for them to do so. Other provinces are doing the same. When Trudeau legalizes in 2015 he's not just going to hand the recreational market over to LP's, there will be new laws and regulations drafted. The LP's will have to transition to a new set of rules just like we as patients are having to do now. Nobody is going to wait 5+ days for some weed under legalization. There will be coffee shops and vapor lounges with product down the street.

 

[sunni]

thread closed for clean up OP you wanna voice your concerns to me , a thread ranting about something generally never turns out well. You also dont have the "right" to say DO NOT POST HERE. its a free forum....also keep the conversation to no personal attacks.