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Scotch089

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Have you looked into the Marineland pumps? http://www.marineland.com/Products/aquarium-pumps-powerheads/maxi-jet-aquarium-powerhead-circulation-pump.aspx
Brother P I just got home and able to set down and look at these maxi pumps- they look like they would LAST, which is killer, but when they say "circulating," I am not one to be on the side of pumps in the res, unless recirc.- and even then... I didnt see if they had air pumps as well? I noticed it was 3 in 1 but couldnt figure it out.. a powerhead? I would like to upgrade the small sub pump I have now-saw some of smaller maxi's on ebay, and I need a one more AP300, or a couple more for air pumps.


Very nice. You seem to have gotten the leaf curl under control. Did you do anything for that or did they just pull through?
Thanks G, how's the stacking goin over there? The curl is not quite gone, but the new growth is looking more "lax." I got that heat up there a bit more with the 50* lenses, I think that really had to play into it- the margins were literally rolling like little leaf joints haha.. :bigjoint: I like the tighter lenses' coverage/numbers and can keep it reading 77* to low 60's, I REALLY need to get the night temps up a fuzz- a fast trip to walmart and a heater, and I should be good...

No sex yet, I do not feel like dealing with this shit again so I taped all the small RED lights on my powerstrip, heater, and timer :/ I hope I see some more poon before next week, they are dividing like crazy and should have by now. (8-10 days last run)


Didn't know you ran the DG line up scotch?? hope to god your not buying protek!!;-) it's just diluted agsil 16h @ pennies per gallon

looks like your on track........be safe
PSU! Do you JUST look at the pictures!? I love my Protekt!! If you have a cheaper/superior/equiv. alternative, PLEASE link me up! I have read of mixing your own silica, but how much cheaper can you get than some 40 a gal DG? haha.

I am going down to the store here in a couple weeks to get some more base nutes and the neccesary accessories, always end up hanging out for an hour of so and shooting the shit... like I said somewhere else, Im trying to get them to buy from Jeff or Rob and get some real LED Rep's in there to put in their comparisons.

but you know, that pricetag..
 

PSUAGRO.

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YES I just look at the pictures;-)

https://customhydronutrients.com/zencart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_60_68&products_id=68&zenid=ith7u44g45h8ende6sa87c6347 $12 bucks a pound, also makes around 300 gallons of bug spray!!lol, ... when mixed with neem oil. Probably can find it even cheaper elsewhere.

1/2-1 teaspoon per gallon should be enough as an alternative to protek.......... stop spending $$$ on water!!! buy dry mixes(ferts) only, but it's your call friend.

Silica is also found in guanos, ewc if you ever go the soil route......hint/hint:)
 

PetFlora

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Hydroponic Research V+B is one part complete DRY formula (includes micros, silica, fulvic).

They will even mix to your specs.

One pound $19.95, but 5 pound price includes free shipping (I think). Either way, I am using 600-700 in early bud set (most of you have seen my recent pics). Next rez change will be maxed at 800ppms.

A little goes a long way ~ 1 TBS/2.5g= ~800ppms


YES I just look at the pictures;-)

https://customhydronutrients.com/zencart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_60_68&products_id=68&zenid=ith7u44g45h8ende6sa87c6347 $12 bucks a pound, also makes around 300 gallons of bug spray!!lol, ... when mixed with neem oil. Probably can find it even cheaper elsewhere.

1/2-1 teaspoon per gallon should be enough as an alternative to protek.......... stop spending $$$ on water!!! buy dry mixes(ferts) only, but it's your call friend.

Silica is also found in guanos, ewc if you ever go the soil route......hint/hint:)
 

Scotch089

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Im so glad to see you guys on here this early... lol

YES I just look at the pictures;-)

https://customhydronutrients.com/zencart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_60_68&products_id=68&zenid=ith7u44g45h8ende6sa87c6347 $12 bucks a pound, also makes around 300 gallons of bug spray!!lol, ... when mixed with neem oil. Probably can find it even cheaper elsewhere.

1/2-1 teaspoon per gallon should be enough as an alternative to protek.......... stop spending $$$ on water!!! buy dry mixes(ferts) only, but it's your call friend.

Silica is also found in guanos, ewc if you ever go the soil route......hint/hint:)
Well wtf... you are literally talking cents/gal. Any idea what effect it has on ph? Dry's have always made me wonder, I may nab some up and try it out! thanks friend! And I am leaning to throw down in some dirt, but I need to source some good soil first- closest shop is an hour out, the better one (my usual) an hour and a half.. I have some AF from my microbe tea, dono what it could do for me, have not gotten too far on HOW and WHAT to top dress, but i do know its a process :dunce:(I wanted to say all the mychorizzia.. (sp? holy fuck..) and bennies on top?) i don't know, I have till the 28th.. hahah... I figured out I was reading about the stuff that wasnt getting me anywhere, I cant mix up and cook my own soil right now, not to mention I feel like it wouldn't be tidy enough to fit in w/out standing out like a sore thumb..

My big worry are ferts, readings (do they even matter!?), how much/often to water (more frequent and less amounts, better right?), and just handling having kids in the soil in the first place. haha..

Scroll down the Marineland link page to find how to use videos
I watched a few of their videos but the main one was the 3:1 pump, i am just lost what they mean utility pump, is that their way of saying a sub pump? I do like the look of the mini-606, and the turquoise sub line they have, but damn those are powerful.

I may have to snag some new nutes up next time I am downtown, gonna be a biiiig trip... better leave the lady at home. I am glad to hear you're seeing benefits keeping it <800 the whole way through too.
 

PetFlora

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I do not feel I had a complete understanding either. Was hoping you would make more sense of it. LOL A call perhaps?

Im so glad to see you guys on here this early... lol



Well wtf... you are literally talking cents/gal. Any idea what effect it has on ph? Dry's have always made me wonder, I may nab some up and try it out! thanks friend! And I am leaning to throw down in some dirt, but I need to source some good soil first- closest shop is an hour out, the better one (my usual) an hour and a half.. I have some AF from my microbe tea, dono what it could do for me, have not gotten too far on HOW and WHAT to top dress, but i do know its a process :dunce:(I wanted to say all the mychorizzia.. (sp? holy fuck..) and bennies on top?) i don't know, I have till the 28th.. hahah... I figured out I was reading about the stuff that wasnt getting me anywhere, I cant mix up and cook my own soil right now, not to mention I feel like it wouldn't be tidy enough to fit in w/out standing out like a sore thumb..

My big worry are ferts, readings (do they even matter!?), how much/often to water (more frequent and less amounts, better right?), and just handling having kids in the soil in the first place. haha..



I watched a few of their videos but the main one was the 3:1 pump, i am just lost what they mean utility pump, is that their way of saying a sub pump? I do like the look of the mini-606, and the turquoise sub line they have, but damn those are powerful.

I may have to snag some new nutes up next time I am downtown, gonna be a biiiig trip... better leave the lady at home. I am glad to hear you're seeing benefits keeping it <800 the whole way through too.
 

Scotch089

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Look how cluttered this shit is, I put this in last night.

Went to walmart, made it a point to check the specs of all the heaters before I decided, fucker STILL drew 1100 on low and almost 14 on high! So... screw it, if im going to devote that kind of energy anyways I am going to use my existing units that I know work how I want.

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Good News, and Bad News.

bad news first, I covered all my little red lights, I do think I stunted them. :wall: No sex, hopefully this will still stay tidy with the extra stretch.

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Good news is I can tell a significant difference in the new growth's appearance since getting temps higher. Bouncing back from the extended res change much faster, spent last night tucking and training, I have broken out the wire ties and had to lock down some of the mains. These things are beasts in their own... a Dragon, a Lion! I will try to edit and get a pic up, looking at 5 separate tops dividing out, I have not given a foliar spray in about 2 weeks, but since I fucked up my dark cycle, again, I am going to wait for sex and set the clock back ten days from there.

In other news, I thought I would aim the limelight towards my SGS' area- the most surprising thing- everytime I turn it on, is how quiet the system is. And I cant speak to it enough to really interpret the exp.



Well.. I had taken a video, but cant seem to get it to upload. Needing a URL really limits me.

2/3 of the SLH tykes made it out alive, I did decide to put them in some media, one was not able to be saved after not receiving enough moisture under the lid- I saw the taproot shrivel and I threw them all into NP's and 'ton, Im trying to be cost effective, not kamikaze.

Not a lot to update on, slow and steady- I am working out the seed order list, I am contemplating holding off till Hurkle is released, and some others to ever get back in stock. ~20 on the list all together, so far, gonna try and keep it closer to 5-10.


I did order x12 Boveda packs, my father has been complaining about it humidor and though wtf, for 12-13 bucks its a worthy test. Im thinking he may prefer the 65 or 70% though, I nabbed the 62% I have FROST in my freezer, so there goes the freezer cure thing.

Other than that, bout 6" here and I am gonna be planted watching the game.

Be SAFE everyone!

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PSUAGRO.

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Why are you covering the red diodes again^^^^^????.............sorry too hear that your freezer isn't frost free;-), shame, such a great system.


Can't believe I bet the patriots!!, fucking hate them.........but that SPREAD and Brady is that monkey on Manning's back...ha

be safe brother
 

Scotch089

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Why are you covering the red diodes again^^^^^????.............sorry too hear that your freezer isn't frost free;-), shame, such a great system.


Can't believe I bet the patriots!!, fucking hate them.........but that SPREAD and Brady is that monkey on Manning's back...ha

be safe brother
Out of all the Brady jokes, him winning another fucking bowl is the worst of them.. come on Denver. :fire:

Brother im not covering up the emitters, I think AT should really look into a switch though, that alone will keep me buying the sgs over the xgs till im convinced. They (AT) could be drawing enough out of a 3:2 if you cut it to 60% (for simplicity's sake..) youd be around 100w of white, but I am sure now it would be too trendy to incorporate or not do able for some other reason thats beyond me... I am looking at the R1's as a stellar veg panel, i noticed Growershouse' SPD showed EVEN amounts of 445nm vs. the 500-575 area for the R2, and the 445nm peak was even with the 625nm in the R1 spd I received for the 200's.

Sorry went off in a tangent... I am covering up the red lights on the power strip, light timer, and heater :eyeroll: I fucked up and gave myself some gangly ends to train under not paying attention.. *facepalm*

[video=youtube;F8Y73-wNDbc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8Y73-wNDbc[/video]

Does suck about the freezer, but I am going to use it with the lids on for long term storage (after the 3-4months of curing) and in a 1/4" production cardboard box.

Heres the shots of the tops dividing out..

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DRAGONS MANNNNN! lol I remember the time I took LSD and sat outside staring at some trees for a couple hours because they looked like three-headed, breathing, DRAGONS. I wanted to do everything I could to draw what I had saw..

hey psu... want to hear a Patriots joke?

.................

...Tim Tebow!


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PSUAGRO.

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Well my day didn't go so well;-) ............my drinking money is gone!

Ah I see^^ your covering the light leaks......miss communication...in before Hyroot starts talking about it being natural with stars and moons out doors......the usual

Fails to realize that outdoors is all about reproduction!!........big difference
 

PetFlora

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I don't get all crazy about light leaks either. A touch of low level ambient light has not proven to make my girls go all skitzo, BUT, I don't have any accessory lights inside my tents

Well my day didn't go so well;-) ............my drinking money is gone!

Ah I see^^ your covering the light leaks......miss communication...in before Hyroot starts talking about it being natural with stars and moons out doors......the usual

Fails to realize that outdoors is all about reproduction!!........big difference
 

hyroot

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Well my day didn't go so well;-) ............my drinking money is gone!

Ah I see^^ your covering the light leaks......miss communication...in before Hyroot starts talking about it being natural with stars and moons out doors......the usual

Fails to realize that outdoors is all about reproduction!!........big difference
rainbows, green clovers, and purple horse shoes too.
 

Scotch089

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...things are going great, I have kind of fallen off the radar, after catching up it sounds like it was a good time too. :lol:

Necessary accessories are pushin me further and further away from that nice seed order I am dying for. I ordered x3 FLUVAL Q2 Air pumps, they were in the ballpark. gives me two for the 3x3' area in place of the 80w pump and give me another I could replace my AP300 I use for Flower in NN. I am excited to see what the 'dial' lets me adjust, I don't like the single output, but have a few T's. (maybe more even distribution?)

The ladies are Hot to Trot, DTF, however you want to put it- things are moving. I took the large heater out too, take a peak at that range on the monitor. hahahahahaha. Another accessory I am in the midst of ordering are Calber IV's (cailbratable...?)but I could have sworn I read somewhere that ppl preferred the III's.

Anyways, replaced the large for x2 small heaters tonight. The ladies weren't strained from 102* lol. Ive kept an eye on the leaves, even the ones directly by the heater and no curl. Just pray those fans' don't shit out hahah.

Ill be giving a res change tomorrow night including 1.25ml Bot. Cal/Mag+/gal, hopefully keeping things in the 6-700ppm range i will be cutting out the Tap water to give way.


PSU, I hope you are staying warm man. talking 8" by the end of the weekend in these parts, -14* tomorrow night. Party, the fuck, on. -_-. you're ladies are looking a GREAT green though, that one you bent over seems to be taking it well, nice set of tops!

The seedlings are doing well, worrying me that their taproot is just now about an 1" out of the pots. Other than that looking nice and green under x2 T5's that need changed out. Temps are much more stable up north but I have and always will be a huge fan of the 'room inside of a room inside of a room' for Control.

Greengenes- I am getting the ball rolling on collecting materials for that ^^room we talked about, I am between a 5x10 tent and getting some splinters. Thinking either way I am sinking anywhere from 200-300 in the structure itself. Big pro that stands out to DIY'ing, is the insulation, and the fact its not just a big black humming tent... bwahaha. Was wondering how you felt about your 4x8. (and containing the whole system.. idk)

Gonna start pricing out everything and start the checklist, I am going to keep the same containers. Love em, universal size throughout the entire system keep shits real nice. The 80w pump and 12-outlet divider will be alright for 6-8 sites.

uhm. btw. SENATE is bringing our bill up. AND Obama's proposition to take MJ off the sched 1 list. IT IS ABOUT TIME! Very good chance this could be a big year.

God you know youre baked when you catch yourself taking breaks munchin a Drumstick, i will edit and upload pics in a bit. :eyesmoke:

Stay WARM and be SAFE every one!


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Yep.. thin stem- thank you temps. Yep.. yellow new growth- thanks you lazy pos. bongsmilie

Scheduled vacation day for a trip to the store and a day to catch up.

also known as:

Daddy's Day.



Hey btw all you westerners: have fun at your friggin cannbis/emerald/Pass-your-seeds around extravaganza! wtf is that?~! Hope all is well!
 

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foreverflyhi

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yo

took some pics just for you homie

ROLS GROWN
BLACKWATER OG
plasma veg, hps flowered

WEEK 8 (3 more weeks to go!)


 
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