Vertical Scrog LED Closet Grow || Flooded Tube/ NFT || 450w - Headband - 2’ x 3’

Are these LEDs going to produce fat, sticky buds?

  • The buds are going to be amazing and you'll wonder why anyone uses HIDs.

    Votes: 18 19.1%
  • The buds will be good, and the yield will be good compared to the power used.

    Votes: 33 35.1%
  • The buds are going to be fluffy and weak and you'll wonder why anyone flowers with LEDs.

    Votes: 10 10.6%
  • Why not just wait and see?

    Votes: 33 35.1%

  • Total voters
    94
  • Poll closed .

jigfresh

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Hey everyone... sorry if I sound defensive about anything. I appreciate every ones input. Sometimes when I try to explain myself I end up sounding like a dick. It's one of the main issues in my marriage.

And TC... You HAVE to go to AZ. You just gotta bro. Life is meant to be lived. I'm gonna message you.
 

MedScientist

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We want to do home schooling mainly because we want to be mobile. 2 months here, a few weeks there, and not during summer break. Public schools don't let you attend of you take your kid out that much. Plus, what am I going to do with myself while girl is at school all day?
That will make it difficult to Grow, I will dig up an Old link to a DIY Mobile Grow Trailer!

Another thing is the level of education. I was bored out of my mind all throughout school. I don't want to subject baby to such a waste of time.
My Point exactly... we JUDGE if they are Good or Bad from OUR PERCEPTIONS of EXPERIENCES in the WORLD?

WooHoo! The BEST NEW IS... They will Survive and Prosper REGAURDLESS how Bad we SCREW them up!

Peace
 

jigfresh

Well-Known Member
That will make it difficult to Grow, I will dig up an Old link to a DIY Mobile Grow Trailer!



My Point exactly... we JUDGE if they are Good or Bad from OUR PERCEPTIONS of EXPERIENCES in the WORLD?

WooHoo! The BEST NEW IS... They will Survive and Prosper REGAURDLESS how Bad we SCREW them up!

Peace
YES!!! This is why I don't worry about any of it too much. She's gonna be a better person than either her mother of father... and all I care about is her happiness. I love it bro.

About growing, I just need about 3 months stationary to get a grow in, I usually get over a years worth of smoke per harvest. Not exactly sure how growing fits in my future to be honest. I will most likely grow at the base, but we want to be international, so we are busy getting rid of things. Shed all the excess, make it easier to get around.

And my real secret... don't tell anyone... make friends who grow weed all around the world. Then no matter where I am, someone's got my back. :) I've smoked in 6 countries so far lol. I bet you could take a fun tour of the weed the world has to offer with all the friends I'm sure you've collected over the years. It's quite rewarding to be a positive friendly person.

And about your point, I didn't understand the first time, but get it now.
 

Javadog

Well-Known Member
Speaking of stoner, I just love something I read in another thread. Guy 1: You should get there early. Guy 2: What's early? Like Noon?

:) I love pot heads.
I am sure that you have seen the clock with only hours 1-4 indicated,
and "Who Cares?" on the other side of the face.

Yup!

JD
 

whodatnation

Well-Known Member
I have an opinion on the school thing, but way too lazy to write it out lol., It would take me an hour probably.
But in short, I feel schools today are fuked up in all sorts of ways.
 

jigfresh

Well-Known Member
lol... i bought weed from a dude standing on the corner in encenada mexico a couple years back. Was shitty weed, but a very exhilarating experience. The funniest part, I go to buy some papers and the guy asks for what. i show him and he laughs and shows me what I could have bought for the same cost. Fuck me, I got about a gram and a half of schwag (not bricked though cuz it didn't need to travel anywhere). The dude at the corner shop had chronic and would have sold me about an eighth. He also offered me some ice. Turned that one down.
 

FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half
Ill go take a look at your other grows also. I have seen maybe 6 led grows in person but mostly online videos of led grows. I did play a bit with the crappy 90 watt UFO lights when they came out but for me it was a waste of time. My comments arent meant to be direspectful so I apologize if thats how they came they are just based off my roughly 2 decades growing. I do think pruning would have helped here like you said. I figure with a 400 watt hps you should get right about an lb dry if you use it correctly and put the work in. A 400 watter during flower runs about $20 a month around $40-45 when on 24 hours a month so its a nominal cost. I said fluffy which maybe isnt the full correct term they just dont look as swollen and fat as hid buds which usually will be baseball sized on average. Its good to see people try new lights out and I look forward to the results which if on par with hid means right around an lb dry.. I do like the new induction and plasma lights as they have shown very well but again the cost is the drawback on those...I just kinda started back couple months ago Roll ban me for a year for trying to get him to yank my account when I had some security concerns.Ends up its all Rolls accounts once you sign up and if you ask for a legit need to remove you get banned lol
 

jigfresh

Well-Known Member
It makes sense then why I haven't seen you. Welcome back.

Like I said, I'm flattered by you thinking little old me could get a lb with a 400. For one, I'm only using 7 sq.ft. For 2, I've mostly used a 1000w hps and have only gotten a lb one time (in maybe 6-8 shots). I average 14 oz with the 1000w. Not super efficient I know... but it's what I can do... and I think it's pretty decent cosidering the space I have to work with. I don't see many people pulling that kinda weight from that small a closet. 0.55 g/w is my biggest harvest (that was 20 oz from a 1000w) in terms of g/w. It's not the greatest measure of a grows success but it is a number to compare one of my grows to the next. If you want to use g/w as a measure than I just have to get 9 oz off this grow to match my best ever. And I'm pretty sure I'll get that (i hope at least).

Weight isn't everything... smell, look, taste, effect also count. These are the nicest smelling flowers I've ever grown, and while it's a new strain for me I don't think it's all down to strain. It just smells different. I don't think it's the light that is making it different, but the temps and humidity. With my 1000w in that closet I have to run a 6" fan all the time to keep it cool. That sucks all the air out the closet quick and humidity is basically pegged below 10%. With the led's I am only running a 50 cfm bathroom fan from home depot. The air still circulates but not at warp speed. The humidity has been around 35% most of the grow... dipping now at the end because of weather here in the mountains.

About the looks, I'm not sure how I feel about this one. My buds usually look pretty interesting from getting slammed with light, be it in a good way or bad way. This time they look prettier, but not as mean. If that makes sense. I also feel this look think I may be imagining. To be honest I tried soil last year... it was a pathetic failure... so it's been over a year that I've seen proper buds in my house... I may have forgot what they looked like. :)

Effect... super excited to see this one. Oh, and the trichs on the plants is oily. Never had that before. I feel like it could be down to the grow conditions. Maybe strain.... supchaka and fmily, if you have read this far, can you say if your headbands were oily feeling?

Like I said a few posts ago, sorry for being defensive. It's a bit of a trying time for me right now... can explain later.

And like I said before... welcome back. And as far as the powers that be are concerned, I've been convinced since early on that the wizard behind the curtain was not what he would have us think.
 

jigfresh

Well-Known Member
And yes, I would agree that the buds I'm growing now don't really compare in girth to the buds I've grown under hids...

casey jones - in front of 400w hps + 250w mh


dog kush - in front of 1000w hps



nor as frosty as the frostiest I've grown....

banana og - in front of 1000w hps


 

jigfresh

Well-Known Member
It was fat as anything. I grew two plants identically, one casey jones, one sour grape. The SG only got 4 oz, the casey jones just over 10 oz. Huge grenade buds. The trichs never turned more than about 5% amber, and I was still a noob, so I was waiting and waiting for them to turn, let the plant go past it's optimum harvest date by at least a week. I can't be sure what the quality would have been like.

I did enjoy the smoke alright... it was still a little bit of an up hybrid even going so long. The taste and smell were pretty good... not great, but not bad. I wouldn't grow it again... unless I was in the selling business. Weighed a lot and the bag appeal was there.

it did throw nanners at the end, but I think it's becuase I let it go so long.
 

jigfresh

Well-Known Member
Damn man... someone out there is a fucking HATER. I'm subbed to like 200 threads or something. Not counting the stupid toke n talk ones I'm on... only 4 have 3 star rating.

The four of us using growevolution lights. That's not a coincidence.

I'm sure the person isn't lurking, but just in case they are.... FUCK YOU.

jealous much?

Now back to our regularly scheduled program.....
 

jigfresh

Well-Known Member
Was the DOG kush a clone or from seed?? Im runnin it from seed as we speak! haha
Clone. I planted the seed the clone came from though. Like DST said on the other thread there are 3 types grown from seed, the super he she throwing ballsacs right next to the calyxes, the type that grow 1-5 ballsacks the entire grow, and those with nothing. I have only seen one super he she in person, that's out of maybe 25-35 seeds me and my friends have popped. The 1-5 ballsacks make up maybe 30 % of the seeds with the non balled ones the other 65%. Cloning seems to drop the % of the 1-5 balled ones.

You'll know if you have a he she. Otherwise just keep an eye out. Luckily they seem to grow them one time... so like they aren't just showing up here and there throughout the grow... more like one sweep 2 weeks into 12/12 will clean everything out.

Although I'm not sure the timing. Ask the dog guys when a good time to do a thorough sweep would be.
 

budbro18

Well-Known Member
Damn man... someone out there is a fucking HATER. I'm subbed to like 200 threads or something. Not counting the stupid toke n talk ones I'm on... only 4 have 3 star rating.

The four of us using growevolution lights. That's not a coincidence.

I'm sure the person isn't lurking, but just in case they are.... FUCK YOU.

jealous much?

Now back to our regularly scheduled program.....

Thanks for the info on the DOG

Someones been going around disliking all of my videos on youtube as well. Noticed one day when i uploaded a new one all of a sudden i got 1 dislike on EVERY video.

Probably some prick on here bein a hater. Ive never looked at the ratings of my pages and rarely rate others because im usually here to talk and forget its even a function.


Even if you dont like TYT watch the first 30 seconds or so. hahaha


[video=youtube;K9vkfBncOpI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9vkfBncOpI[/video]
 

Mohican

Well-Known Member
I don't think nanners are just a DOG thing. I think it is prevalent in the OG family. Good way to know you got the real deal :)

I saw the 3 stars and voted 5. That is just BS!

At least 60% of the school day is filled with lining up and doing busy work. I know people who spend 4 hours a day homeschooling their kids and they learn 3 times as much as they do in public school. They get to spend more time on field trips to museums, historical sites, national parks, other countries...

We really wish we could have done it but we both had to work. If I could do it over I would buy land somewhere cheap build a house and home school.
 

HydroGp

Well-Known Member
Clone. I planted the seed the clone came from though. Like DST said on the other thread there are 3 types grown from seed, the super he she throwing ballsacs right next to the calyxes, the type that grow 1-5 ballsacks the entire grow, and those with nothing. I have only seen one super he she in person, that's out of maybe 25-35 seeds me and my friends have popped. The 1-5 ballsacks make up maybe 30 % of the seeds with the non balled ones the other 65%. Cloning seems to drop the % of the 1-5 balled ones.

You'll know if you have a he she. Otherwise just keep an eye out. Luckily they seem to grow them one time... so like they aren't just showing up here and there throughout the grow... more like one sweep 2 weeks into 12/12 will clean everything out.

Although I'm not sure the timing. Ask the dog guys when a good time to do a thorough sweep would be.
I had 1 super he she, the buds were really small compared to my other dogs running so i didnt bother run it. 1 showing 2 balls, and 1 showing about 10balls. The 10 baller being my favorite. Maybe the 2 baller is just as great but its in soil, and judgeing from the looks i should stay away from soil, lol. But what i wanted to say was i left some of the balls to mature while i kept an eye on them and most of them actually turns out female. That being said the flowers they produce are not worth it. 2 leafsets and a calyx the size of 20 trichomes, and that is what it has, lol.
And yeah 2-3 week sweep, should do it.
Have you found any potency difference from the 3 different ones?
The dog pictured is really stunning. Did you "manicure" it, remove bigger fans, or did it actually grow like that?
 

MedScientist

Well-Known Member
There we go... back to the LOVE Cult!

I mean if your gonna buy some land, build a house, home school... you might as well grow your own food and Medz... invite some Friends... NOW you have a LOVE Cult! Hehehe

Yeah... BAKED Again! Been a while since I ate about 4g's of Decarbed Dry Ice Hash! WooHoo!

Peace and LOVE to ALL <<<< Get IT?
 
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