How to manage large scrogs?

[gorillagrower0840]

I have never done a scrog before but am thinking about doing it my next time growing. I have a 5x9 tent and a trellis net that will cover the whole entire tent area. With the net in there like that, I am not able to enter the tent and can't move any plants around if needed. I plan on using canna coco for the growing medium. I would like to fim every plant as well before they grew to the net. How would such a grow be managed on a daily basis? How would I water them everyday? How would I reach every plant to water them? Where would the runoff go? How would I manage the canopy without being able to enter the tent? Is it possible to reach in and do work or is it just too big of a space?

 

[blowingupjake]

Here's what we came up with for a friends huge scale scrog..
Go to harbor freight and get a gravity fed watering spicket.. The kind you hook to a hose. Then modify a 5 gal bucket to have a hose coming out the bottom on the side.. Hook up watering adapter to hose hook hose to bucket and BAM! You are watering in no time. We built a 6' tall stand for the bucket to sit and it drains a 5 gal bucket in no time.
Let the runoff just puddle in low spots and get in there with the shopvac. Using smart pots is awesome with coco as the runoff can come out wherever it wants so you shouldn't have to worry much about mold under the pots.

 

[kermit2692]

I use a long ass funnel lol

 

[gorillagrower0840]

what kind of watering adapter? How could I get in there when the whole tent is covered with coco pots and a net trellis? Wouldn't there be no room?

 

[blowingupjake]

Its basically a 4' long aluminum tube with an on/off valve on the end with a handle and hose attachement . The other end can be a single spicket or there are shower head attachments as well. So this will extend your reach to the back of the tent. Home depot, lowes, tractor supply, maybe even walmart should have em in the garden section.

 

[anzohaze]

Use 1/2 inch pvc and the 1/2inch hose from a pump slides it snuggly on 1 end you cant mount a valve if you would like to cut water off and use that to reach with. Cost about 5 dollars as i am sure you have a water pump

 

[gorillagrower0840]

Its basically a 4' long aluminum tube with an on/off valve on the end with a handle and hose attachement . The other end can be a single spicket or there are shower head attachments as well. So this will extend your reach to the back of the tent. Home depot, lowes, tractor supply, maybe even walmart should have em in the garden section.

are you talking about a watering wand like these? http://www.walmart.com/ip/Orbit-30-Shower-Wand-With-Shut-Off/16564905
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Dramm-30-in.-Kaleidoscope-Wand/19346483
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Orbit-58290N-36-in-9-Pattern-Turrett-Water-Wand/20958743

 

[GreatwhiteNorth]

Fill the upper bucket, lay the hose in the container you want to fill & open the valve.
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To remove run-off, my shop vac has a flexible hose attached to the tube.
I only get under the canopy to clean up dead leaves etc...

 

[blowingupjake]

Thats it. Well #2 is the one i looked at

 

[gorillagrower0840]

Thats it. Well #2 is the one i looked at

How big is the scrog yall are doing? Got any pics?

 

[gorillagrower0840]

At what point during the grow do you have to actually start maneuvering branches through the net so it will be all tops covering the net at the end? And what about transplanting while doing a scrog? Do you do all your transplanting and growing without the net, and then once the plants are in their final size pot, then you put the net up for them?

 

[GreatwhiteNorth]

At what point during the grow do you have to actually start maneuvering branches through the net so it will be all tops covering the net at the end? And what about transplanting while doing a scrog? Do you do all your transplanting and growing without the net, and then once the plants are in their final size pot, then you put the net up for them?

It's simple really - I veg as you would in most any growing method, however I like to top early on (even a couple times on the more vigorous plants). When they are close to your target screen height, install the screen and as the faster ones start to come through you simply pull them back down & lay the growing tip horizontal heading for the next hole in the screen. Keep doing this as well as LST and super cropping until I have around 85% of the screen involved. From there I allow them to come up and then I use heavy (bare) copper ground wire hooks to weigh down the "fast growers" to try and keep the canopy more or less level. After the stretch is done I remove the weights and just allow them to do their thing.

It typically ends up looking like a Shaggy Scrog, but the yield is very good (strain dependent).
That's it in a nutshell.