Def or Lockout?

lax123

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Hi,
can you please help me with this?

Leaves look this...
Is this P def and N def or some kind of lockout or something else?

The sprinkles r quite red or purple.
 

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dannyboy602

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mb a phosphorus def. that would cause red in your leaves. wish i could see the whole plant. i could tell you why P is deficient but it would be better for you to do your own research, that way you'll remember it next time:)...just google P def on cannabis
 

Dr. Who

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Looks like over watering and is that purple coming out on the leaf? if so, high K or cold could cause that.
 

Bugeye

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If you've been feeding her a lot of stuff, it is probably lock-out. If you have not been feeding much, it is probably a deficiency.
 

Bugeye

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You haven't described your dirt or feeding schedule but looking at that picture, I would guess she was underfed going into flowering because you have very faded leaves that still have decent structure. Now that she is well into flowering, it is a little more delicate to fix. If within a couple weeks of chopping, I'd do nothing and just ride it out. If more than a couple weeks until chop, I'd want to give her a feeding of something balanced like a 5-5-5. I'm biased toward not pumping N in late stages just to keep the smoke smoother.

More important to me would be to take notes for next time you grow so you don't fade quite as early.
 

lax123

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Hi, i guess u dont know the stuff im using: soil Biobizz allmix, biobizz grow and Bloom organic fert. I ferted 3 days ago with half strength dose grow and bloom and yesterday another half. 4 days ago temps went down to 14-15°C for 12hrs 2 nights, while usally the temp is around 19°C.
 

lax123

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You sure it might not be some pH issue or lockout, if so feeding would make it worse, thats my concern....
 

RIKNSTEIN

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You sure it might not be some pH issue or lockout, if so feeding would make it worse, thats my concern....
Too late to get scared now...lmao...it's ok man she's hungry, feed her...she's N def for sure, and I'd add some Epsom salts too...bitches love Epsom salts :fire:
 

Doer

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Hi,
can you please help me with this?

Leaves look this...
Is this P def and N def or some kind of lockout or something else?

The sprinkles r quite red or purple.
One leaf says nothing to me. I need to see the entire plant and know what you are doing.
 

Doer

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He did...
Dude!! I missed. Here is how you fix it. This is an actual emergency.

Get a spray bottle. Gets some high green lawn food. It will have about 28% UAN, ammonium and urea Nitrates and best is 2% Iron. (Did you switch to bloom nutes, you bad boy? :) )

You still have time to spray a good shot of 150 ppm lawn food, with a wetting agent of course. Then 3 days later, one more shot.

No. Not lockout unless they have been locked for weeks, mercilessly, I don't think so.

If you can't measure ppm and don't have a wetting agent and lawn food, then you need to give them a good dose of Veg Food. The.... big for short, less for long.... approach. Give a bigger dose then back off.

Or better yet, just switch in a balanced plant food, now. Then use thoughout at different strengths, and forget get about ganja nutes.

I did.
 

lax123

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thx a lot, today i took another, more sharp picture.

My grow fert has 4-3-6 and bloom has 2-7-4

Yes i fed them with bloom, im like 36days into flower.
Full dose is like 3ml/l grow 4ml/l Bloom

3 days ago i fed them half a half a dose, and yesterday too.

Its organic, should i not wait some days untill i feed more?
I think organic fert takes a couple of days, does it not?

N is one thing, but some leaves have a lot of purple sprinkles in them, thats P def right?
 

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Doer

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I would hit those with 28-0-0 at 150 ppm, if you can do it. Yeah, just checked the picture. I am working on rooting in young clones, and they get like this. When they do that, they need more Nitrogen in the flowering. The sign here is transporting of N, from the bottom to support the flowers. That reduces the photosynthesis, too soon.

So, N for sure. Here is my definitive source for other deficits and seems to work for me.

Nutrient Knowledge Article's Merged

Purple is a flowering trait, also, in some strain. In others it can be over water and severe stem shrink. But that was the first thing I checked. Your upper stalk is not purple and thin. Not with that fine leaf set and good green up top.

Do you have some lawn food? Or what do they use in organic for N? Bat guano? Chicken manure?

You need to not do nothing, but not do too much, here. Do no harm. Just ease into a more balanced plant food. I use organic 16-16-16. MaxSea or I use Sea Grow, seems the same for less. Who knows? I don;'t want to make Uncle Buck seem like a nice guy or anything but he turned me on to it. :)

I might add some Cal/Mag in early rooting. I add Silica for strong stems. And then only the PPM changes. Same stuff start to finish, vary the PPM.

So, even if you use Scott's Super Grow with Iron in a 150 ppm water solution that will do it.
 

RIKNSTEIN

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thx a lot, today i took another, more sharp picture.

My grow fert has 4-3-6 and bloom has 2-7-4

Yes i fed them with bloom, im like 36days into flower.
Full dose is like 3ml/l grow 4ml/l Bloom

3 days ago i fed them half a half a dose, and yesterday too.

Its organic, should i not wait some days untill i feed more?
I think organic fert takes a couple of days, does it not?

N is one thing, but some leaves have a lot of purple sprinkles in them, thats P def right?
Man it's looking better :bigjoint:keep hittin it with some strong N until the tips of the leaves "start" to turn lime green/yellow, this means there's enough N...I run supersoil so I have plenty of veg nutes left in my soil to only feed a bloom booster with a NPK of 14-24-24...otherwise I used to use a balanced NPK for veg and half way through flower like 10-10-10...doin better keep it up...
 
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