Why do you reject the theory of evolution?

[joe macclennan]

how dare you talk to him in such a way!

He's gonna put you on ignore now

 

[Ringsixty]

Just wondering

No sure why, just crawled out from under a rock. "Boy that Sun is bright."

 

[Padawanbater2]

No sure why, just crawled out from under a rock. "Boy that Sun is bright."

You're not sure why you reject the theory of evolution?

Sorry I don't understand your post

 

[burgertime2010]

Ahhh so i guess parts of the bible are taken out of context.... nah motha fucka! lol! You take them out of context when you pick them apart and assign your own meaning to them. The old testament is as part of the bible as any other part of the bible....why? Because it's in... the fuckin... BIBLE! lmfao!

When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

^^^Riiight, because i am tooootally taking those passages out of context. Wait, hold on... actually i got them right from the bible that is sitting next to me right now. Hold on... that is crazy, the bible condoning slavery?!?!?! This is outrage!!! You know what im gonna do! God damnit im gonna pretend that the old testament isn't part of the bible, and im going to ignore it straight up, actually im never going to read the old testament again because i just reeaaally don't like it and i don't agree with it, even if it is IN THE BIBLE!.

Meh... sounds about right.

That is the most annoying part is the cherrypicking of the bible that people do. It is all or nothing but wives are no longer property, hell is not real, and all the wicked shit is conveniently missing or out of context. I want to see the revelation, the moment where the medication starts working for some people. At least some are Christ-like and he seems like a nice guy. The bible is all or nothing though...swallow the pill or don't. Science is not my religion but rational discourse and non-fiction I need in my life.

 

[thump easy]

Ahhh so i guess parts of the bible are taken out of context.... nah motha fucka! lol! You take them out of context when you pick them apart and assign your own meaning to them. The old testament is as part of the bible as any other part of the bible....why? Because it's in... the fuckin... BIBLE! lmfao!

When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

^^^Riiight, because i am tooootally taking those passages out of context. Wait, hold on... actually i got them right from the bible that is sitting next to me right now. Hold on... that is crazy, the bible condoning slavery?!?!?! This is outrage!!! You know what im gonna do! God damnit im gonna pretend that the old testament isn't part of the bible, and im going to ignore it straight up, actually im never going to read the old testament again because i just reeaaally don't like it and i don't agree with it, even if it is IN THE BIBLE!.

Meh... sounds about right.

wow that means i can have more than one wife shit i wish i was young i dont think four women would have been enough???

 

[burgertime2010]

Bible question...are Jews cool still? How did the chosen people thing play out? I think that kind of flattery would get people to sign up.

 

[thump easy]

jews are the chosen people gee.. there right in finances!!!!! once!!! they acept.. from what i know the end will come..

 

[SaturdaySunday]

Burgertime... You are not going to find a resonable argument against evolution on this forum and you certainly won't find someone who can provide any defense for the bible, etc.

People reject the theory of evolution because they don't know any better. VERY few people who are adamently anti-atheism or anti-evolution have a real intellectual grasp of either concept. There have been studies that show that atheists actually know more about religion than the religious, while the religious know less about science or any information contradictiing relgious mythology.

 

[burgertime2010]

Burgertime... You are not going to find a resonable argument against evolution on this forum and you certainly won't find someone who can provide any defense for the bible, etc.

People reject the theory of evolution because they don't know any better. VERY few people who are adamently anti-atheism or anti-evolution have a real intellectual grasp of either concept. There have been studies that show that atheists actually know more about religion than the religious, while the religious know less about science or any information contradictiing relgious mythology.

I find it interesting, I want to hear the case people make. To me, this discourse is evolution, we are exploring it is what we do as humans. But, I see what you mean and agree. Maybe challenging belief systems that are obsolete and impossible to prove will inspire more change to occur for the better. It can be futile but maybe it is necessary.

 

[burgertime2010]

jews are the chosen people gee.. there right in finances!!!!! once!!! they acept.. from what i know the end will come..

Can you rephrase? I don't understand what you mean.

 

[GreatwhiteNorth]

IMHO it is the denigration from either side that polarized the convo.
Why is it civility seems to be lacking when this subject (and a couple of others) come up?
It always seems to devolve into name calling and passive aggressive allusion isms.

 

[thump easy]

hu?? dude im not ready for this battle give me a few month to read and ill look it up again..

 

[burgertime2010]

IMHO it is the denigration from either side that polarized the convo.
Why is it civility seems to be lacking when this subject (and a couple of others) come up?
It always seems to devolve into name calling and passive aggressive allusion isms.

Its' actually better than usual IMO.

 

[Nevaeh420]

The Bible could be an acronym for Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth. I believe the Bible is more metaphorical in nature, meaning it uses a lot of symbology. The Bible shouldnt be interperated as the literal Word of God because allegedly ancient man wrote the Bible. I actually believe its possible that aliens wrote some of the Bible or inspired it in some way.

Whoever wrote the Bible was very smart for their day. What does this have to do with evolution though? I believe the Bible evolved too because history evolved even back then. The Bible doesnt describe the evolution of animals but it does contain the evolution of rituals and beliefs.

I have fulfilled some of the stories and prophecy from the New Testament. The BIBLE gave the Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth, and now its a new AGE (the age of Aquarius) and its time to leave earth.

~PEACE~

 

[redeyedfrog]

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Chopras an asshole

 

[eye exaggerate]

I said religion doesn't belong in an academic setting unless it's being viewed in historical context. Religion is for history class, not science. Do you agree?

I agree scientists have to keep their biases in check. I know the purpose that a method serves. On the other hand, I also understand why it is important to suspend the analytical mind when using imagination to amplify ideas.

On the spiritual side you have the idea of an 'unknowable'. Ok, so we know from the outset that some things we cannot comprehend with our limited cognition. If I were to paint a picture of that it would look like an endless amount of wonder being distributed by an inexhaustible source. The word joy fits in there somewhere, I think.

 

[Padawanbater2]

I agree scientists have to keep their biases in check. I know the purpose that a method serves. On the other hand, I also understand why it is important to suspend the analytical mind when using imagination to amplify ideas.

On the spiritual side you have the idea of an 'unknowable'. Ok, so we know from the outset that some things we cannot comprehend with our limited cognition. If I were to paint a picture of that it would look like an endless amount of wonder being distributed by an inexhaustible source. The word joy fits in there somewhere, I think.

"Suspend the analytical mind when using imagination to amplify ideas" - what does that mean?

 

[kpmarine]

The Bible could be an acronym for Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth. I believe the Bible is more metaphorical in nature, meaning it uses a lot of symbology. The Bible shouldnt be interperated as the literal Word of God because allegedly ancient man wrote the Bible. I actually believe its possible that aliens wrote some of the Bible or inspired it in some way.

Whoever wrote the Bible was very smart for their day. What does this have to do with evolution though? I believe the Bible evolved too because history evolved even back then. The Bible doesnt describe the evolution of animals but it does contain the evolution of rituals and beliefs.

I have fulfilled some of the stories and prophecy from the New Testament. The BIBLE gave the Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth, and now its a new AGE (the age of Aquarius) and its time to leave earth.

~PEACE~

Symbolism, the suffix -logy means "study of".

 

[cannabineer]

I agree with pretty much all of that, however, I can find no logical conclusion that would allow for our species, ALONE, to develop the ability to understand and manipulate fire when we did.

It just doesn't make sense.

Compare any biological species within a genus and you find that the intelligence levels are relatively streamlined, as is the use of tools, if any. This shows that nature is a lazy bitch that likes to repeat herself, and this repetition is also reflected in the cosmos, as evidenced by the multitude of stars and galaxies that share many of the same characteristics. Why did OUR species deviate from the "norms" found in nature when we came from the very same nature that produced everything else?

Polar bears, hell, BEARS developed fat layers and fur to keep warm. That makes sense and jives with everything else in nature. Humans, however, developed clothing and the use of fire instead. That's not natural, and no other species on the planet took that route. That intellectual and technological leap just seems far too large to be "natural", as no other species took that same route, or has taken it since.

The seemingly "exceptional" route our species has taken seems way, way, WAY out of place compared with our peers in the animal kingdom, and it is this "exceptionalism" that leads me to believe that evolution is only PART of the story concerning our species.

Granted, I could very well be giving our species FAR more credit than we deserve concerning "intelligence", but it seems to me that we are the proverbial square peg on a planet of round holes.

To the colorized: since it happened, i think it definitively natural. We are a facet of nature, even in our most sapient, technical and contrived moments.

I really like the quote above about us being "the universe experiencing itself". it is my intuition that the join between science and spirit can be found in that direction. As eye observed, science isn't equipped to investigate what seems acausal. I wonder if there is a filtering action there, a begging of the question that narrows our window into certain aspects of the real.

Even so, i have great confidence that science, so long as it is allowed, unhindered by our prejudices, to seek the corners where the real hides, will eventually grow into the task, and what we now subsume into the catchall terms "spirit" and "soul" will be just as gloriously, integrally mundane as Newtonian mechanics, albeit nowhere near as simple.

 

[cannabineer]

Really, well im guessing its ok to the theory of evolution to well, just about anyone. Science is not a tool, its BIG BUSINESS, its also man kinds excuse for so many evil deeds.

It's important to distinguish between science and the mercenary empires built on technologies.