Leotime21
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That's awesome man! I wish I was your galpal lol you mentioned PE.. Pineapple auto?
NL auto-2nd grow attempt
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noham
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I am curious about the difference the HPS may make.
It would be interesting to see a given lumen cfl grow compared to a same lumen hps grow, given the differences in kelvin ratings and cfl's superiority in said area.
-if you happen to stumble across anyone who did it, pease let me know
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Good luck with your grow, it's kind of you supplying her
It would be interesting to see a given lumen cfl grow compared to a same lumen hps grow, given the differences in kelvin ratings and cfl's superiority in said area.
-if you happen to stumble across anyone who did it, pease let me know
And
Good luck with your grow, it's kind of you supplying her
Awsome plant! I have 6 bubblelicious going right now 22 days old and all are showing flowering. I think it has to do with the lights I use a 600w hps with 4 42w cfls but looking foreward to seeing how this goes. I haven't done autos ever so I was only going for 1-2oz per plant but after reading u pulled 2oz dry from the last one I am rethinking that. So sorry if u answered this already but what size pot is that and do you have a small yeast sugar water co2 bottle in there?
new2420grow
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Yea, Leo, it was from my Pineapple Express auto that I got from Barneys. It's been curing for about 2 1/2 months, it's a goooood smoke
new2420grow
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I can definitely tell the buds are waaaaay more dense. I'm guessing that I still got about 4 more weeks before harvest and these buds are 4x tighter than the others were at harvest. A couple are damn near rock hard. I can only imagine how great they'll be in my Feb grown when I add a 400w!I am curious about the difference the HPS may make.
It would be interesting to see a given lumen cfl grow compared to a same lumen hps grow, given the differences in kelvin ratings and cfl's superiority in said area.
-if you happen to stumble across anyone who did it, pease let me know
And
Good luck with your grow, it's kind of you supplying her
new2420grow
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They are small, like 1.5 gallon pots that I've been using. My next plant, I'm going to up to either a 3 gallon or 5 gallon. For now, I'm only running autos. I love not having to worry about a lighting schedule and not having to worry about light leaks causing the plants to go hermie. I don't use anything to add co2. For one plant, I personally feel that the co2 that myself and my cat expel, combined with what's in the air, is enough. Another thing is, I don't really like the idea of putting something in such a small area that could affect the humidity. Humidity is hard to control as it is down here in the south. But, I may try it on the next grow, just to see if there is any difference. I'll be starting my next seed in about 2 weeks.
What kind of heat does that 600 watter throw off?
noham
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Yeah, I heard HPS makes all that difference, but would it if the numbers matched? What makes HPS lamps so much better?
I know the basics of lighting, but I've mostly just read: "hps is better at penetrating foliage". On a number of debates, these were the most common - and laughable- reasoning behind high pressure lamps.
I'm not saying I would go up to 50.000 lumens with cfl, I understand it's more lumens per watt, I'm also not against it in any way other than doubting it has kind of magic light that makes it penetrate much better than equal parts cfl.
Have a good night
Also, give pic of that cat if you have many times
I love cats...
I know the basics of lighting, but I've mostly just read: "hps is better at penetrating foliage". On a number of debates, these were the most common - and laughable- reasoning behind high pressure lamps.
I'm not saying I would go up to 50.000 lumens with cfl, I understand it's more lumens per watt, I'm also not against it in any way other than doubting it has kind of magic light that makes it penetrate much better than equal parts cfl.
Have a good night
Also, give pic of that cat if you have many times
I love cats...
new2420grow
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I really don't get the science behind it all, haven't really tried to understand the "why" part of why HPS works better, but I do think a lot of it is the more lumens per watt, which in turns gives it better penetration. All I know, is that it's working. I'm using roughly the same amount of actual watts as before, but like I've said, there's a huge difference in bud density.Yeah, I heard HPS makes all that difference, but would it if the numbers matched? What makes HPS lamps so much better?
I know the basics of lighting, but I've mostly just read: "hps is better at penetrating foliage". On a number of debates, these were the most common - and laughable- reasoning behind high pressure lamps.
I'm not saying I would go up to 50.000 lumens with cfl, I understand it's more lumens per watt, I'm also not against it in any way other than doubting it has kind of magic light that makes it penetrate much better than equal parts cfl.
Have a good night
Also, give pic of that cat if you have many times
I love cats...
As for Patches the cat, I had an old picture of him saved on my computer. This is about 15 months ago where I just snapped a pic of him. I guess he had the munchies or something!
noham
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Nice little "house" your cat has there
I see your seeds are from nirvana. I had a coupon and bought Sensi's for the same price, so I have my hopes up high, having been heard Sensi is the king and also seeing how well you do with them.
I bet your plants like you.
If I may give some advice: use lst and tie the stems away from the main node, that way light reaches more of the plant, as it looks really compact at the moment. You should try and make it spread out under that HPS.
Just be sure not to overstrain it, if you do.
I see your seeds are from nirvana. I had a coupon and bought Sensi's for the same price, so I have my hopes up high, having been heard Sensi is the king and also seeing how well you do with them.
I bet your plants like you.
If I may give some advice: use lst and tie the stems away from the main node, that way light reaches more of the plant, as it looks really compact at the moment. You should try and make it spread out under that HPS.
Just be sure not to overstrain it, if you do.
new2420grow
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I always like to see comparisons done on same strain/different breeders and also on same seed but different lights. IMO, that's the best way to see what works the best.
new2420grow
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Got a question for the Pro's if y'all don't mind chiming in. It's about leaves, fan leaves in particular. Now, I understand the basics, that leaves collect the light and use the light for photosynthesis and all that jazz and I don't practice any defoliation techniques. In fact, I don't fim, top, lst or anything. I just let the auto's go. But, my question is, is it more important, especially late in flower, that the light hits directly on buds, or does it need to hit on the big fan leaves, so that the fan leaves can feed the buds.
That's the conflicting info that I can't make head nor tails of. Some say that light on the buds, do NOT help the buds, that the light hitting the fan leaves is what helps the buds. Now, to me, that sounds wrong. I mean I can see how that would work, if it were true, but I always thought that the light helps the bud, by hitting the buds, other wise, you could just shine lights at the bottom set of leaves and not have to worry about having lights above.
Now, my reason for all my rambling....sorry if I'm going about this backwards, I just burned a small bowl!... I will occasionally remove a lower fan leaf, if it is yellowed out, but I have some smaller buds inside the plant, that seem like they could get a bit bigger, if light got to them, if the light helps the bud, by hitting the bud. So, with about 4 weeks left, would it benefit me to remove some of the fan leaves that are blocking light from lower bud sites, or will it cause overall negative effect to the bigger buds by losing the "solar panels"? Thanks for any input y'all can give!
That's the conflicting info that I can't make head nor tails of. Some say that light on the buds, do NOT help the buds, that the light hitting the fan leaves is what helps the buds. Now, to me, that sounds wrong. I mean I can see how that would work, if it were true, but I always thought that the light helps the bud, by hitting the buds, other wise, you could just shine lights at the bottom set of leaves and not have to worry about having lights above.
Now, my reason for all my rambling....sorry if I'm going about this backwards, I just burned a small bowl!... I will occasionally remove a lower fan leaf, if it is yellowed out, but I have some smaller buds inside the plant, that seem like they could get a bit bigger, if light got to them, if the light helps the bud, by hitting the bud. So, with about 4 weeks left, would it benefit me to remove some of the fan leaves that are blocking light from lower bud sites, or will it cause overall negative effect to the bigger buds by losing the "solar panels"? Thanks for any input y'all can give!
OrangeHaze
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One thing I can say from watching my latest baby is that early on I top soiled and there was about a half an inch between the soil and the first set of fan leaves, so I snipped them, and the two branches from that node almost halted all growth. Even now at 41 days I have 2 little runt branches that look like twigs compared to the rest of the plant. Even with giving them direct light for several days they just stayed runts. My understanding is that the light and the leaves both help the bud, but the fan leaves (on nodes) feed the whole branch and the smaller leafs directly on the buds feed the buds.
I have trimmed and can say from my point of view don't trim the fans. Some people strip all the leaves near harvest time, and you can find plenty of threads on that. But early on, I would not do it. If you want the smaller buds/branches to grow, use side lighting and target the node fans associated with those bud spots.
I have trimmed and can say from my point of view don't trim the fans. Some people strip all the leaves near harvest time, and you can find plenty of threads on that. But early on, I would not do it. If you want the smaller buds/branches to grow, use side lighting and target the node fans associated with those bud spots.
new2420grow
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Thanks OHaze!
new2420grow
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They were both right around 30 inches. Not very big at all.
new2420grow
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Yea, that was above the soil.