whats the best cloning solution??

Ego Fum Papa

Ego Fum Papa

Active Member
P

plaguedog

Active Member
I have a local store in my area that sells their own brand. Brew&Grow: Simple Path Rooting Gel. It's a less money than Clonex..Olivias...etc and I have had great results with it. Usually root within ten days using rapid rooters, and a heating mat along with low light. I have used the cheap powders as well, which took longer than the gel but did work.

Cloning depends on many factors such as genetics, environment. I have found keeping the humidity levels up for the first 3-4 days key then slowly letting them get fresh air over the next 6-7 days along with a heating mat helps immensely.

Also make sure you clean your cutting tools off with alcohol or what I use is an aloe vera based hand sanitizing gel...Hey it works. lol
 
S

spek9

Well-Known Member
dannyboy602 said:
if you are propagating in aero cloners the best cloning solution is none at all. the plant makes it's own hormone and the gels always clogged the manifold and misters in the cloners. i never tried cloning solutions but it makes sense they would wash off. i got roots starting in 4 days and they were ready to go in ten days. i also tried propagating in soil. slooooow process:)
Click to expand...
My months and months of cloning well over 200 clones with almost a 100% success rate definitely backs up dannyboy's claims here regarding using just water in the aerocloner.

-spek
 
B

budleydoright

Well-Known Member
Tap water in an turbo clone 48. I do ad DM Zone to keep it sterile. 100%!
I do have to completely clean and disinfect with bleach between cycles.
 
Mr.Head

Mr.Head

Well-Known Member
Ego Fum Papa said:
That's very interesting, I'm going to try it out the next time I take clones (in a couple days). Thanks for the link.
Click to expand...
Cinnamon does nothing for rooting. It keeps fungus at bay so the clone has time to root itself. Everywhere else I have read states this, no where have I seen anyone make this "cinnamon will encourage the stem to produce more stem" claim... Wouldn't you want roots anyways? If you have fungus issues in your cloning environment you're doing something wrong to begin with IMO, at least with indoor.

By all means try it, but I expect it to burn the shit out of cannabis clones, as I have read and seen it do when applying it with watering on young plants. Pretty good chance it would be dead in a couple hours.


Cinnamon is a great fungicide, I've used it with great success. If you have the start of a gnat problem I would suggest trying Cinnamon before anything else.
 
C

churchhaze

Well-Known Member
There have been times I've used rooting hormones and had it take 2 weeks while other times i've used just a light nutrient solution with no hormones and most of them rooted in 4-5 days.

I like to wrap the cubes in seran wrap to keep them from evaporating and getting cold.

I think the main success factor in cloning is how starchy the stems of the cuttings were when you cut them. Starchy stems = higher success rate. Low starch in the stems = low success rate and longer time to take root.

I've heard that if you starve a mother of P before transplanting, she'll proportion more of the sugars she generates as starch in the stems, so strategy I've been using recently is to starve the mother of P before taking cuttings.
 
Ego Fum Papa

Ego Fum Papa

Active Member
Mr.Head said:
Cinnamon does nothing for rooting. It keeps fungus at bay so the clone has time to root itself. Everywhere else I have read states this, no where have I seen anyone make this "cinnamon will encourage the stem to produce more stem" claim... Wouldn't you want roots anyways? If you have fungus issues in your cloning environment you're doing something wrong to begin with IMO, at least with indoor.

By all means try it, but I expect it to burn the shit out of cannabis clones, as I have read and seen it do when applying it with watering on young plants. Pretty good chance it would be dead in a couple hours.

Cinnamon is a great fungicide, I've used it with great success. If you have the start of a gnat problem I would suggest trying Cinnamon before anything else.
Click to expand...
Umm, I don't have fungus. I take clones all the time with great success. The dude posted a link which said cinnamon can be used a rooting agent so I said I'd give it a shot, as an experiment. Thanks anyway?
 
JohnDee

JohnDee

Well-Known Member
ChurchHaze wrote: I've heard that if you starve a mother of P before transplanting, she'll proportion more of the sugars she generates as starch in the stems, so strategy I've been using recently is to starve the mother of P before taking cuttings.
Click to expand...
Correct idea but wrong nutrient. It's N you want to withhold. But if you withhold all nutrients for the week prior to cutting clones...that will surely get the job done.
JD
 
Mr.Head

Mr.Head

Well-Known Member
Ego Fum Papa said:
Umm, I don't have fungus. I take clones all the time with great success. The dude posted a link which said cinnamon can be used a rooting agent so I said I'd give it a shot, as an experiment. Thanks anyway?
Click to expand...
I wasn't trying to be rude, I don't know if that's what you were getting at? LoL, hard to tell on the internet. I was just stating that what was linked was taken out of context by the original author, not by you. Also was trying to point out the sillyness of the article linked, "produce more stems" What does that mean? Do they mean actual branching? or roots? I don't know.

The whole thing doesn't make sense logically. By all means try it, have back ups :) I wouldn't scrape the edge of my stems like I normally do if I was trying this, I'd just do the 45/ and that's it. Just my 2 cents.

If it does work be sure to post back, I'll eat a shoe :)
 
Ego Fum Papa

Ego Fum Papa

Active Member
Mr.Head said:
I wasn't trying to be rude, I don't know if that's what you were getting at? LoL, hard to tell on the internet. I was just stating that what was linked was taken out of context by the original author, not by you. Also was trying to point out the sillyness of the article linked, "produce more stems" What does that mean? Do they mean actual branching? or roots? I don't know.

The whole thing doesn't make sense logically. By all means try it, have back ups :) I wouldn't scrape the edge of my stems like I normally do if I was trying this, I'd just do the 45/ and that's it. Just my 2 cents.

If it does work be sure to post back, I'll eat a shoe :)
Click to expand...
I know you're not trying to be rude, no worries. I just always like trying new things and experimenting. If cinnamon doesn't work (I don't have high hopes), it's not a big deal at all to me. I have plenty of big, lush mothers that I can always take more cuts from. It's always fun to experiment.

As for the article, I think it was a typo, the paragraph above it says "Cinnamon as a rooting agent is as useful as willow water or hormone rooting powder. A single application to the stem when you plant the cutting will stimulate root growth in almost every plant variety."

There's only one way to find out if it really works. So I'll try it out. I'll try to post some pictures up here to document it. I will take the cuts, dip in cinnamon and place into pH'd 2" rockwool cubes and place in a dome. Pics to come...
 
Ego Fum Papa

Ego Fum Papa

Active Member
Ok, cinnamon experiment in progress...

I took cuts from my Chemdawg D mother, which is a very hardy and vigorous plant and usually roots very fast. chem mom 6.jpg

I'm a clean freak when it comes to this stuff. Sterilized my scissors and pre-soaked my 2" rockwool cubes in pH'd water. clean tools 4.jpg

Took my cuts from lower branches. cuts 2.jpg

Then, dipped em in cinnamon. cinnamon dip 1.jpgcinnamon dip 4.jpgcinnamon dip 5.jpg

And, here they are in the cubes. in cubes 1.jpg

Then, they were misted and placed in the dome along side some friends. in dome 2.jpg

They're currently sitting under a T5. I will update their progress as soon as anything happens.
 
twostrokenut

twostrokenut

Well-Known Member
Subbed up to see the cinnamon experiment.


I like my rapid rooters, heat pad and dome for simplicity. I like the aero if I need a really fast turnaround.
 
burgertime2010

burgertime2010

Well-Known Member
I like to spray down the mothers with pure water a few times a day for 2 days before I take my cuttings. It cleans out clogged stomata, removes dirt and dust, and the leaves swell before the cuts are taken.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top