Zen master's northern light-n-blue venom grow journal

hey everybobdy out there, what up! Well this is not my first grow but it is my first journal. I've been growing indoors consistently for a little over a year and a half now using coco coir(this stufff is pretty fucking good)and i finally feel like i'm ready to show you guys a little something.
Let's start with the growing areas
first is the clone box. My neighbor was throwing out this cabinet, and when i saw it i knew it would be just perfect(1'x2'x18")with floro lights, and small chains to hang them:total cost $18.
Next is the veg closet. Went to Home Depot bought two 4x8 sheets of plywood and some 2x4's($21), and made a closet(3'x4'x6'). For now i'll be running one 400wt hps in it, with a cool tube($96),one 117 cfm axial fan($22),and two bathroom exhaust fans(one for exhaust, one to bring in air,$35)and one small fan to circulate the air $7:total cost $182.
Next we have the flowering area. Now the room in itself is 10'x12', but seeing that i'm only using two 400wt hps lights i've sectioned off a 3'x8' area, and made a sort of drainage ramp out of one sheet of plywood some 2x4's and some corrugated plastic(hope i spelled that right)total cost:$22-$25. That gives me enough room for 18-20 3 gal pots and taking into account the space the lights will take up i have about seven and a half feet of vertical space. Now i didn't mention the cost of the lights because all one has to do is go on craig's list and find one for a real good price.


P.S. COULD SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME BY TELLING ME HOW TO POST MY PICS, ALSO I AM LOOKING FOR ALL COMMENTS, SUGGESTIONS, BITS OF ADVICE , AND EVEN SHORT STORIES OF LOVE LOST.lol.BUT SERIOUSLY COME ON IN, SI TBACK, RELAX, AND ENJOY YOURSELF . WE GOT ABOUT 9WEEKS AND 5 DAYS TO GO.

Now that we have that out of the way let's talk about the medium. I personally love coco coir. It's just awesome. Some say that its expensive to use, but it really depends how you look at it. For me , it's not. All I use is the Canna Coco, the two part A-B nutes, and floralicious bloom for flowering. That's it, the 50 liter bag of coco is $25, the A-B solutions are only $25 together, and the floralicious bloom is about $24. That's $75,now just say you have ten 3gal pots, the A-B solution(which is used for entire veg-flower cycle), and one bag of coco will last a whole 8-12 week cycle, and one bottle of the floralicious bloom will last dam near forever, if you hand water like me(precise measurements per instructions on bottle). So think about it, ten plants, $75 for 8-12 weeks, that's just $75 for an entire crop from beginning to harvest, watering probably about once a week. Plus sincethe coco is so light it has an amazing water retention capacity, and it allows for an incredible root mass to form, and it is easy as fuck to use and you get excellent results. Well that's basically it for the medium, I don't want to gush about this coco too much because i don't want anyone to think I'm a canna rep, but.......IT'S THE SHIT!!!!!

well that's it for now I'll be back monday, hopefully someone can tell me how to post my pics by then.





PEACE!!!!
-ZEN-

Scribed.

Starting a very similar grow myself. Blue Venom is germing right as we speak. Just added water to the Coco Coir GH bricks that I got. My 1st coco grow so I'm experimenting here but I'm glad you have some experience with this medium (that's my way of saying that I am going to bombard you with ?s at some point ).

As for the pics. Just go to "Go Advanced" on the very bottom of your thread. Scroll down on the next screen to "Manage Attachments". Click one of the "Browse" tabs (there will be 4) and just click on the pic that you want to import. Only import 2 at a time though. Always crashes on me when I go over 2 at a time. Note, I don't mean that you can only POST 2 pics at a time, just import them no more than 2 at a time. Post all the pics you want

Have you used any other nutes since you started with coco as a medium? I have Fox Farm Hydro nutes and am concerned about using them with this medium (not really concerned...just unsure if they will create any problems). I have read a few posts of people using FloraNova with very good success so I assume that is compatible. Sadly, I have no access to the Canna A+B that you have (hydro shop doesnt carry it) but man, what a sweet deal they are. $25 total for the whole grow nute-wise. Not bad

Best of luck with the grow boss.

Ok so here is the pics of my clone cabinet and veg cabinet
1.clone cab
2.veg cab
3-6.fans ducting, cool tube, and the floor space(10 3gal. pots)

(Butters) said:

Scribed.

Starting a very similar grow myself. Blue Venom is germing right as we speak. Just added water to the Coco Coir GH bricks that I got. My 1st coco grow so I'm experimenting here but I'm glad you have some experience with this medium (that's my way of saying that I am going to bombard you with ?s at some point ).

As for the pics. Just go to "Go Advanced" on the very bottom of your thread. Scroll down on the next screen to "Manage Attachments". Click one of the "Browse" tabs (there will be 4) and just click on the pic that you want to import. Only import 2 at a time though. Always crashes on me when I go over 2 at a time. Note, I don't mean that you can only POST 2 pics at a time, just import them no more than 2 at a time. Post all the pics you want

Have you used any other nutes since you started with coco as a medium? I have Fox Farm Hydro nutes and am concerned about using them with this medium (not really concerned...just unsure if they will create any problems). I have read a few posts of people using FloraNova with very good success so I assume that is compatible. Sadly, I have no access to the Canna A+B that you have (hydro shop doesnt carry it) but man, what a sweet deal they are. $25 total for the whole grow nute-wise. Not bad

Best of luck with the grow boss.

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hey Butters thanks for tuning it, btw i love butters.
Congrats on the move to coco, like i said before it is awesome. As far as any other nutes the only other thing i use other than the a-b is the G-H Floralicious Bloom, it really helps put a little more size on the buds, but it really improves the flavor, and aroma of the buds. Now as far as any thing else ive tried CANNA's BOOST(supposed to be the equivilant to floralicious but better)but at almost 100 bucks, compared to floalicious-$30, the small amount more it yielded wasn't worth the price(0.1gram more).
Now i hear others talking about other nutes and such. But IMO and in my experience if it isn't specifically desinged for coco it will ruin your yield, maybe not destroy it, but definitely diminish it.
iv'e tried the bricks that you add water to, and they are ok, i just like canna's stuff, it just looks , smells, and feels cleaner to me, but that's just me. I also know a few people that have had success with the bricks, but we all use 400 sodium lights, and my buds just come out a litte bit better, not by leaps and bounds, but better.
I dont know if you have any phobia about ordering on line, but you can get the coco and the nutes all day on line, and sometimes tha a-b is a little cheaper. Only reason i dont try to save any money online is because my hydro shop is only like 15 miles away, but you can check that out, just google CANNA COCO COIR retailers.
And another thing with coco, and iv'e found its easier and cleaner with canna, is that it is reusable up to one to two growing cycles. No rinsing, nothing. Just after you chop your babies you can either 1.Take it out the pot and let it dry in the shape of the container(takes longer to dry, but it is easier to shake loose and keep the roots intact which makes it easier to discard them.or
2.You can break it up and lay it out to dry(inside only,little critters from the outside find this stuff particularly fun to play in, and make a home in)and when it dries just pick up a hand full and shake it into another container,and discard the roots. Dont worry about all of them just get what you can.
Damn man didnt mean to run on like that, but i guess i like to be as clear as possible, so yea if you want to know anything holler at me. If i know the answer i give you my best, also if i dont i wont tell you what i THINK might work, you know what i mean.
But anywho this is all i use(and tap water screw the r/o), probably in the next post or two i will be putting up my nute strengths as far as cloning, vegging, and flowering.


PEACE!!!
-ZEN-

THE GEAR!!!!!!!!
well like i said i am going to be using Nirvana's Northern Lights, and G-13 Labs Blue Venom.
even though this grow will start with clones, i just thought that i wolud show you all the ladies that were willing to sacrifice their limbs to the cause.
It was cool because i germed 5 NL seeds and the blue venom.
Everything came out swell all six seeds popped, and out of the five NL beans only one was a boy. But out of the other four i was able to get both phenos(lucky me!!!). Two sativa looking phenos, and two shorter indica/sativa looking phenos. i hate that that one was a boy, but i will make lemonade and try to harvest some pollen to make some more seeds(yea for me!!!!!)
So here they are, now the tall plants are some sour diesel that i'm growing,they have about four more weeks to go, and i only did those in 1gal pots(just trying something different), but you still see how good they get in the coco. hope you guys can see them alright, all i have is a camera phone.
First are the sativa phenos(one is shorter because i topped it).
Next are the mixed looking phenos.
And last is the blue venom.(Butters this is an awsome plant man, you are just going to love watching it grow, it just looks so strong)


Side note: this is the first time ive grown something that i had to order,
most have just been bagseed, and
i'm telling you these are the most beautiful plants ive grown indoors, period.
they all had four weeks of veg, when i put them out to flower stretching slowed down to
about .25 inches after exactly 9 days. Up until then they all(NL, BLUE V)jumped about
1"-2" a day , also i kept the light as close as possible without endangering the babies.
Tomorrow i will put up my "stretch report".

Very nice set up Zen.

Any particular methods you use in the flowering area (sog, scrog, lst, topping, fim'ing, 12/12 from clone, re-veg, etc). You've got some options with that flowering space there and a total of 3 - 400w HPS lights on hand. Not sure if you've seen M Blaze's grow yet (https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/161675-pics-new-girls.html) but if desired, you may have the space and lighting to pull something of that sort off (he's another coco enthusiast).

Thanks for all of the advice. The more and more I read, the more and more I'm feeling the canna line for coco. Always try and avoid online ordering but I'm am willing to swallow that pill for those prices.

With 10 plants going, what's the yield you are shooting for?

Also, as a mylar enthusiast myself, I would consider using highly reflective white paint in #3-6 pics. Those wrinkles in the reflective paper can create some hot-spots. Nothing too bad, but hot-spots none the less. Buddy of mine just partially fried a dozen plants because of something like that . If you've already grown succesfully in there, no worries then.

As for the BV...mine actually germed at 8 hours! Haven't had that happen before. Already in the humidity dome. Very glad to hear that you're having = success with it as I haven't had much luck with G13 strains before (always have done them outside though). Just figured I'd start coco-growing with a G13 strain as I won't cry if it goes wrong. Long term, looking to use white rhino and super silver haze in this medium.

Thanks again!

I'll tell you what tomorrow I had planned on putting a post up on my clones. i think you will be very interested in my method, not saying its original(because theres nothing new under the sun), but since i did not get the idea from anyone, i can say MY method,LOL. Its really kinda cool. i have a clone that's ready to be potted, so tonight i'll take some pics and show you what i mean. No hints, but i think you might adopt this way also.
And yea whatever strain works, especially if it is a strain that generally exhibits vigorous or aggressive root growth, oh man its like peanut butter and jelly, they just go together. and the way i clone puts all of those advantages together as one.




PEACE!!!
-ZEN-

Nice! Can't wait to check it out.

hey, got those pics. all i did was one , it was a BV clone that for some reason just exploded with root growth. but anyway here's how i do my clones. i used to start them in little 6oz. dixie cups. good plan but the problem was when i went to transplant them to the 1gal pots or even the 3gal pots, i had a root mass that started between 2-4 inches from the BOTTOM of my pot,which by the end of the cycle was very root bound. but just mostly the bottom half. so after trying different sized cups to start them in, i thought about using rockwool. see with the rockwool you get a root system that is already pointing in all sorts of directions, at the very top of the pot. giving more room for the roots to grow in veg. and of course more roots during the veg cycle gave me thicker, and stronger branches and a stronger main stalk. which mind you didn't necessarily get me a larger yield(though they did average more than those before them), it did give me a stronger, healthier looking plant. which did come in handy as far as resisting pest, fluctuating temps, low/high humidity and a lot of other things. so i got some 1.5in. or either 2in., not sure actually what size they are but you might be able to tell from the pic, but anyway i cut some clones, put them in some rockwool cubes and let them root. as far as the nutes for the clones i just used about 20-25% strength of the amount of the A-B that they suggest you use. 40ml of each A and the B to every 10L, so that's about 4ml per 1L. so i use about 0.5ml of each per 1L of TAP WATER(SIDE NOTE:never mix the A-B together, whatever brand it is, NEVER. always agitate your A with your water first then add your B with the rest water and agitate, whatever amount your'e mixing, and always let sit for at least an hour.)
But back to the clone for the day. this particular clone was originally supposed to be the top two on my BV plant, but i decided that i didn't want 14 shoots, only 12, so i cut those two off and left them attatched to each other. and as you can see that is the result. i think the roots were so many because the stem was thicker than the rest. but anyway you can probably figure it out from the pics, but i will give you a play by play anyway.
1. filled a 1gal pot with coco and dug out about a 2.5"-3" hole.
2. took my clone and positioned the roots pointing downward.
3. cut the roots to about 1"-1.5"(optional)
4. place clone in hole, about 0.5" below the surface, and cover.
5. add nutes, after they have set for at least an hour.
After that i'm going to put it in the veg cab probably for about a week and then put in out to flower(that's not what i usually do, but i do want to see how well the NL and BV respond to early flowering, but that'sf or another thread)

To feed my plants i hand water and for that i used 1L soda pop bottles. i also used them to measure out larger amounts of water, since the measurements on the bottle are metric. it works out to be pretty close and precise. if i need 10L of water i just pour 10 1L bottles of water in a 5gal jug, easy. and for the A-B solutions i use a plastic measuring syringe that has increments of 1ml, up to 60ml.

Btw the plants looks kinda wilted, but all that was is that the a/c in my living room was blowing so cold that the humidity in the room was very dry, and i guess that was too much of an extreme change from the dome to that, so they kinda fell down. it would have been worse if i had not been misting them with water during the process. next time i'll just do it in the back part of my house which is a little hotter and more humid.

hey Butters, if you would could you tell me how to post a link to my grow on my page. like you did your DWC grow.
BTW man Damnnn! Beautiful plant man, i always wondered what that auto stuff smoked like. so do you think it would be worth it just to primarily grow autos? also during the latter period of flowering, was the smell just loud or does it get up to the "smell it outside" kind of loud? i don't know, but i think that would be kinda sick though if i got 30-35 1gal pots, and for every group of males i pull, i seed one plant, and just replace them with another set of plants. and so on and so forth. that is until i get tired of that strtrain, or i run out of seeds(whichever come first). but yea, definitely interested in that. so holler.


PEACE!!!
-ZEN-

ZEN MASTER said:

hey Butters, if you would could you tell me how to post a link to my grow on my page.

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Okay. This feature is a bit more temperamental I've noticed (hasn't always worked for me). Click on the My Rollitup in the upper left of your screen.
-Now look on the left of the screen and click on the Edit Signature link.
-Now just copy and paste the link to your grow in the big empty box and hit save.

You should be all set, but as mentioned earlier, it doesn't always work on the 1st try.

ZEN MASTER said:

hey BTW man Damnnn! Beautiful plant man, i always wondered what that auto stuff smoked like. so do you think it would be worth it just to primarily grow autos? also during the latter period of flowering, was the smell just loud or does it get up to the "smell it outside" kind of loud? i don't know, but i think that would be kinda sick though if i got 30-35 1gal pots, and for every group of males i pull, i seed one plant, and just replace them with another set of plants. and so on and so forth. that is until i get tired of that strtrain, or i run out of seeds(whichever come first). but yea, definitely interested in that. so holler.


PEACE!!!
-ZEN-

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Yeah, the autos have their definate advantages to them. As for the smell, holy crap

Very, very strong...and that was just the lowryder 2. The auto blueberry x AK47 I'm finishing up now is even worse. Easily smelled outside but fortunately we do legitimately have a skunk that lives right outside our place so not too many eyebrows get raised

The biggest advantage to growing just them is that they only have the 1 light cycle. Just the 18/6 or the 20/4 (strain dependent). No need for seperate rooms for veg and flower or fancy grow cabs (I am diy illiterate sadly). Just put'em all together. Also, no cloning with them. It won't work (well, it'll work but it can't re-veg and won't produce enough to make it worth it). So it's all from seed.

Another big plus to these is that they are near IMPOSSIBLE to kill. My grow room environment is absolutely awful right now. Temps over 85 typically and surpass 100 once per day (it's just a sad little closet with no ventillation)(moving the whole set up to the more grow friendly basement ). And they don't even really need nutes to do what they do. The highest I ever got was like 660ppm with that beast of a lr2. And even then it showed some signs of nute burn. Guess this is all pretty typical of the ruderalis-based strains. I guess if you can grow naturally in alaska, you can survive just about any environment.

The males are the big drawback to them. Ugh. Especially in hydro-dwc with a shared rez. But I was plannin on doing what you described with replacing every male with a new seed. That, and the best autoflowering strain will probably never be as strong as the best non-autoflowering strains.

I'm holding off on the perpetual grow with all of the seeds I have now until I experiment with the basement growspace and trying my hand at cloning...something I have avoided for a while cause it sounds like too much work

Speaking of which...holy crap that is some serious root growth on that clone!!! I had to do a double take there. Thought I was looking at a blonde wig on the bottom of a rockwool cube at first.

Rockwool really sounds like the way to go with cloning from what I've read around here. But rockwool and I do not get along (I chronically under- or over- water it). You obviously seem to have cloning in it down pretty damn well so I'll probably be hittin ya up for info when I start playing around with cloning. I have an aerogarden set aside for just that purpose (*see the Butter's Aerogarden definition below if you are unfamiliar with this product).

Thanks for the tip about not mixing the A+B together before mixing with water. I woulda made that mistake like 5 minutes after opening the bottles for the 1st time.

Good luck getting your grow journal in your sig boss. It definately helps in getting people to check out your journal. As does a really catch a title...like "Michael Jackson's face in rockwool cube". Put that as your title, and you'll have 4500 views in like 10 minutes

Take it easy.



*Aerogarden
A hydroponic gardening system that men's wives/girlfriends get as a gift on certain occasions. The females then grow basil, and tomatoes and such in them for about 2 months before becoming tired with the product and realizing that they don't even cook with basil anyway so what's the f'n point. At which point the male realizes "Hey...I bet I could grow weed in that thing", puts in a couple of seeds, quickly realizes that he has no idea what he's doing once they sprout up, performs an internet search on marijuana growing which inevitably leads him to RIU. The aerogarden, the commercials say it's for chics and vegetables...but we know better

I'll tell you what, if i can get me something for odor, man i would probably be growing those full time. no lie. you had asked about what kind of technique i use as far as growing style. well honestly i NEVER believed in anything other than letting them grow the way God intended, but really i think it was just a fear of failure. cause i figured that it was no way i could get my plants to grow like some of you guys do, especially the one that blaze has in his avatar. but for some reason i decided to top that blue venom and one of the NL plants. i was scared as hell because i didnt want t screw it up, but i'm here to tell you this, man i am sold on topping. i mean wow. now, even though it is just like almost the second week of flowering, those two look absolutely awesome. i mean i get it now. and to be hear some people say that when you top you kind of lose a little bit of yield. well LA-DI-DA, i'll tell you this, whatever little bit i lose from topping, i figure i could more than make that up, for the simple fact that the space and amount of light that one takes up(Christmas tree shape,untopped), i could maybe get two possibly three topped plants in the same footprint, because it's like once the cut heals, they grow straight up(btw i didn't know that till now). so yea i"m sold, and oh my God i can't wait for those mini colas to bust out. like little frosted rockets ready to take aim. i would like to try FIMing, but i would only do that if i had some lights with more power(personal preference), because it seems that FIMming produces a lot of bud sites, and i woulld just want more penetrating power(no pun intended).

As far as the rockwool cloning. man when i first attempted it it had me frustrated as hell. that's why i went with the dixie cup method, but as i said earlier i HAD to figure out a better way because i was losing too much room in my pots. so that was my motivation. and i just came up with this way to do it. not saying that this is "the best " way, its just my way. maybe it'll work for you.

First off when you soak them, squeeze out the excess water, put your clone in the cube, put them in your dome and close the lid, understand those things are going to stay wet for a minute. and you'll see because the water will still build up in the trenches of your tray.
Now what i do at this point is to let the water pool up in the trenches and let it stand for about three days. after that i get a sponge, or paper towel and tilt my tray to the left and soak up as much of the water as possible, then to the right and do the same thing, and then repeat it a couple of times to get whatever excess water that the cubes might let go. after that every day or two( no more than two) i just open the dome look on the underside of each cube, if they don't look SOAKING, or even SEMI wet, i tilt my tray to one side pour in a conservative amount of solution, or water, and i just slightly tilt the tray back and forth until the bottom of the cubes have soaked some up, then once again i get a paper towel and soak up the rest. i do this until i start to see the roots start to emerge from the bottom. as time goes on you'll be able to tell without even picking them up.

For this part i got a 16.9oz. water bottle, took a "small" nail and poked a "small" hole through the top for my solution, or water. now at this point we know that roots chase the moisture, that's why the roots grow down, right. this is the cool part(to me). i position the roots that are peeking through directly over the trenches. i then get my watering bottle and spray a THIN layer of water. i mean really just enough to see that the trenches are wet, because you want as little water to get to the cube as possible. thats when the roots start to grow in different directions, because they are searching for the water that's in the trenches. that's why my clone had sort of a mop head thing going. and since you do DWC you know how aggressive roots can be when they are looking for nutes, or water. that's why i only spray a thin layer and keep check on the every day. i give them just enough to feed, but not so much that they DON'T stop looking for food. long story short : "IF THE ROOTS WANT TO EAT THEY GOTTA GO GET IT"

Hey you be easy man, ok. and look here i know my posts are a bit long. and i don't want you or anyone reading this to think that I feel like i "know it all", or like i'm trying to school anybody. that's not it at all, i just enjoy clarity, so i tell everything i know.

SIDENOTE:
1. When i use the rockwool i never use any kind of cloning gel, or powder, PERIOD.

2. Instead of using the pre-made holes on the top of the cube, i turn it over, and
with a pair of scissors, or a steak knife i cut a half inch slit at the depth that i
want, and slide that shaft in as far as i can get it.LOL.(this decreases the chance of
the clone leaning, therefore it can just recieve the light instead of using energy to straighten
themselves out to get to the light)

3. once those cubes are in my dome i never, ever run another drop of anything through
the top of my rockwool cubes, EVER.(like i said i want the roots to go "get it")

4. After the first week of having the lights on for 24hrs straight i switch to 20/4.(think
about it after the first week of 24 hrs light, i give them a little time to rest because
we know that plants do most of their growing during the night time hours, which
equals more hungry roots ready to get out there an 'GET SOME"

5. Don't take the paper off until you transplant them to your coco,that just keeps them from
busting out of the sides of the cube, it just keeps them all growing in one direction, down
and out.


PEACE!!!
-ZEN-

well i got it to work, and only on the fifteenth try. but thanks dude, really appreciate that. when i get home i'm going to measure my girls to see if i have any more stretching. hopefully they will have been done stopped so i can give a complete stretch report. its crazy it seems like since my dog died i have been coming up with all sorts of different things to do in my grow area to take up all my free time.


PEACE!!!
-ZEN-

No worries about the detailed posts at all. That's what this site is all about.

I have also avoided the whole LSTing, topping, and FMing stuff as well. Felt I needed to get the regular grow methods tuned in 1st before I started doing stuff like that. Now, I'm shooting for a SCROG on this grow. So many different ways to grow, so little time.

exactly, it's like when you first really get started, and you see guys doing this and doing that. and for me it was somewhat overwhelming in a sense.i mean i wanted to do everything, i guess with time you fine tune yourself as well as your technique. you know like the differinet kinds of hydroponics, i was just stoked at some of the things i saw and to me aeroponics is the coolest "LOOKING" way to grow. i mean to me, but a lot comes with that style of growing. you get some real nice yields, but shit the ppm, the ec, lines and misters clogging, pumps failing, alge and all the other potentially devastating things that can happen just didn't make it seems worth it, but that's me. i mean that picture of that dwc monster that Butters has is killer, as well as the flock of other guys in here. that's why i chose coco. it is just a system that works for me, and was simple to get dialed in. i can't lie though, i was on you tube and i saw all of the see more buds videos, and man, WOW. i mean this guy has a killer set-up.and he's using some kind of "aqua mist " misters of foggers. whatever it is called i want it. but anywho, this weekend i will be tranplanting my clones to my veg closet if i can find somewhere that has a small a/c unit. and i mean small like 12"x12" because this tx heat is insane. i think yesterday it was like 102 outside and when my lights came on at 6:45pm it was 93 in my grow room, and the thermostat in the veg closet was reading between 96-98, with the light off. so it is no way i would even attempt to get that closet up to speed without a separate a/c unit. but we'll see(fingers crossed), and i'll put the pics up monday.

Well its been a minute but i just wanted to put up some of the pics of my babies that have been in flower for two weeks. Please excuse the quality of the pics(camera phone is all i have).
The first is the sativa pheno of the NL that i topped, next is the BLUE VENOM (topped as well), and the last is a pic of both the sativa and the indica pheno of the Northern Light. I shot the last two side by side so i could give as accurate a look as possible at the two phenos that the NL produces, because for the longest i've heard that there are two different phenos, but i never saw them side by side. So there you go if any one ever wondered. Next up, pics of clones going to veg.

Lookin real good Zen

Hello, hello, hello. Well i thought i would go ahead and put up these pics of my clones going to veg. Before i get started i wanted to mention a coulple of things. First off, i was right the reason that the two headed clone had so mouch root growth is because the stalk was pretty thick. Secondly it seems that with all the a/c blowing in the house, that the air is quite dry. I say that because as long as the dome is covering the clones all is well. But after about three minutes with the dome off, the plants seem to start wilting as if they are drying out, and that wasn't happening four months ago when i was doing my sour diesel plants . So even though i hate to, i think i might have to start doing my clones like i originally had been doing them, in dixie cups uncovered. But anyways the first two pics are just the clones in the tray. The five in a row on the bottom right part of the tray in the first pic is the blue venom, the rest are the northern lights. I'm kinda pissed because i like the way the indica pheno of the NL is growing, and i had two of them like that, which i had taken two cuttings off of each one.well one of the indicas turned out to be very weak(it was burning off of the exact same strength of nutes that the rest were doing just fine with. So i axed her and her babies(evil genius laugh). Which means i only have two left, and only one of them will go to flower, cause i'm gonna use the other to clone(which ever looks strongest). This next pic is just a shot of the root growth(decent, could be better though). The next two are the girls in their new digs 4(nl), 5(blue venom). And the last is of their first feed.