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Yellowing of top sugar leaves around the bud pictures?

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bananahaze64

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Hi so today i noticed my sugar leaves on some of the main buds especially near the top buds are going yellow:( is this the light burning , nutrition deficiency (i recently started to feed, tiny doses of a+b coco and soon just water, or is it nutrient burn to the fan leaves? Im not sure should I up nutrients or continue to lower then flush with water?
 

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Dr. Who

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Normal for this point - Basically.

Be sure your lighting times are 12 or less on.

If they have been constant. Go to 11.5 on for that strain.

11.5 actually makes for a more "stable" bloom..... 12 is just a plant growing standard... 11.5 or 11 makes for a better, cleaner finish.
Lowering as you go? Works too. I wouldn't go lower then the 11 - UNLESS, your growing equatorial sativa's.

FLUSHING at the last 2 weeks is a myth!
 
athlete

athlete

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That is NOT normal!

Looks like calcium? Maybe mag, too?... it's only affecting new growth so it is likely immobile nutrients... .like cal/mag.

And it is obviously progressing.
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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VERY NORMAL FOR A PLANT, OF THAT STRAIN, THAT FAR ALONG !!!!

Take another look.

That plant is about done! It's stacking calyx's on already finished ones.... Looks like a form of Sour diesel. Very typical for that and related strains!
It's sativa dominate for sure!
That stacking is telling me it's about done, if not done. Starting to stack and foxtail is a sign of a finishing Sativa.

The key to seeing that? The single "rounded" leaves in both pics, and the Foxtailing in the second pic. Take a look at my AVATAR pic. She's just about finished too! VERY Sativa dominate pheno of Pineapple Express. Got her in a run of regular beans... Haven't ever seen another pheno of it, like that one. One of those real low # ratio pheno's.

You can shove your "anger" emoji pal...
 
athlete

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You have to be a moron thinking that's near ready. 70% white pistils.

We are so far apart there is no reason to continue shitting on this guy's thread.
 
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bananahaze64

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Dr. Who said:
VERY NORMAL FOR A PLANT, OF THAT STRAIN, THAT FAR ALONG !!!!

Take another look.

That plant is about done! It's stacking calyx's on already finished ones.... Looks like a form of Sour diesel. Very typical for that and related strains!
It's sativa dominate for sure!
That stacking is telling me it's about done, if not done. Starting to stack and foxtail is a sign of a finishing Sativa.

The key to seeing that? The single "rounded" leaves in both pics, and the Foxtailing in the second pic. Take a look at my AVATAR pic. She's just about finished too! VERY Sativa dominate pheno of Pineapple Express. Got her in a run of regular beans... Haven't ever seen another pheno of it, like that one. One of those real low # ratio pheno's.

You can shove your "anger" emoji pal...
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Thanks for the reply, I think your pretty close with your answers she is an auto flower I believe AK47 or 49 cant remember maby just said AK but something sativa dominant i have read. and has been on 18/6 the whole time, yesterday i changed to 12/12 because like you say she keeps throwing out new white pistols/ stacking on the buds I am thinking I start with just water for the last week soon as It seems like she has been going a while but I think needs a little more maby goes quicker with the increased darkness?
 
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bananahaze64

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But yeh the more I look at pictures of that strain ak47 auto the more I see seedbanks selling picture looking like mine with lost of white pistols
 
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bananahaze64 said:
Thanks for the reply, I think your pretty close with your answers she is an auto flower I believe AK47 or 49 cant remember maby just said AK but something sativa dominant i have read. and has been on 18/6 the whole time, yesterday i changed to 12/12 because like you say she keeps throwing out new white pistols/ stacking on the buds I am thinking I start with just water for the last week soon as It seems like she has been going a while but I think needs a little more maby goes quicker with the increased darkness?
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Keen observations sir!

Yes, decreasing lighting time. Does finish a plant, somewhat quicker.
For equatorial Sativa's. I start at 12/12 and decrease the lighting time by 15 min a week after 6 weeks. these plants can run as long as 18 to even as much as 24 weeks... I do slow that down some with the 24 week plants - Vietnamese Black and a cpl other Pure sativa's. The end of the line is 10 hrs on, 14 off. You begin to effect yields after that point....Pretty fast too.

I water only the last week as it saves on nutrient costs (synthetic runs). It takes the plant about 5 - 7 days to actually be putting to use the feed in a soil grow.
 
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bananahaze64

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Dr. Who said:
Keen observations sir!

Yes, decreasing lighting time. Does finish a plant, somewhat quicker.
For equatorial Sativa's. I start at 12/12 and decrease the lighting time by 15 min a week after 6 weeks. these plants can run as long as 18 to even as much as 24 weeks... I do slow that down some with the 24 week plants - Vietnamese Black and a cpl other Pure sativa's. The end of the line is 10 hrs on, 14 off. You begin to effect yields after that point....Pretty fast too.

I water only the last week as it saves on nutrient costs (synthetic runs). It takes the plant about 5 - 7 days to actually be putting to use the feed in a soil grow.
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Okay I hope by Friday it should be done, i made 12/12 so quite a change from 18/6 , I also going to give just 5.8 Ph water till then (im in coco) or should i just use my tap water its 7.5ph
 
mistergrafik

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Dr. Who said:
Normal for this point - Basically.

Be sure your lighting times are 12 or less on.

If they have been constant. Go to 11.5 on for that strain.

11.5 actually makes for a more "stable" bloom..... 12 is just a plant growing standard... 11.5 or 11 makes for a better, cleaner finish.
Lowering as you go? Works too. I wouldn't go lower then the 11 - UNLESS, your growing equatorial sativa's.

FLUSHING at the last 2 weeks is a myth!
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this whole post is wrong
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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bananahaze64 said:
Okay I hope by Friday it should be done, i made 12/12 so quite a change from 18/6 , I also going to give just 5.8 Ph water till then (im in coco) or should i just use my tap water its 7.5ph
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Yeah, you should be pretty squared away in a week or 10 days.

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I can see mild nute burn and some glassy looking trichomes. Nowhere near done.
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Many newer wizz bang strain's - especially long running sativa'sm new, or old!
DON'T amber up much, and some? Not at all.

You wait for the outer foxtailing to amber up. You'll run too long and the best part of the bud will have gone over....
 
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19-Sean-86

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Dr. Who said:
Yeah, you should be pretty squared away in a week or 10 days.



Many newer wizz bang strain's - especially long running sativa'sm new, or old!
DON'T amber up much, and some? Not at all.

You wait for the outer foxtailing to amber up. You'll run too long and the best part of the bud will have gone over....
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I know some times the trichomes don't amber (strain dependent) but what I'm seeing in OP's pics is his trichomes are barely milky. Clear trichomes look glassy were as milky trichomes look like spunk filled plastic looking trichomes. Based off those pics it's not ready it looks glassy.
 
mistergrafik

mistergrafik

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Dr. Who said:
Last I knew? They still fall under the rules of plant science.... I'm looking at about a finished plant...PERIOD.
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Right on - I still don’t agree with ur take on flushing but I didn’t really do my process justice in the crossfire.

Dropping the lights on this plant now will do the opposite ; you would want to start by correcting the feed and then using the environment to finish the ripe.

But what do I know. Justa hippy with a cat.
 
mistergrafik

mistergrafik

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19-Sean-86 said:
I know some times the trichomes don't amber (strain dependent) but what I'm seeing in OP's pics is his trichomes are barely milky. Clear trichomes look glassy were as milky trichomes look like spunk filled plastic looking trichomes. Based off those pics it's not ready it looks glassy.
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It’s not near ready ; somewhere along the way it looks like grow nutrients were re-introduced at the wrong ratio
 
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