whats peoples thoughts on this system thinking of giving it a try
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Kush Killington
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Bleh. To many plants if yu fill it. Im all about that DIY construction and bigger trees
Sir KK
Sir KK
m4s73r
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And its hydro, lots of moving parts, more expensive, more plant numbers, cant get in to do maintenance during full bloom. for less then what you would spend in that thing, you should look into Recycled organic living soil no till method.
Make the soil (ill be using 6 10 gallon smart pots $40, entire soil cost me $250 with about 8 gallons leftover)
fill pots (throw in some worms)
plant dwarf white clover or microclover (living mulch that you "mow" once in awhile)
let pots set for 30 days (cook)
plant cannabis
start a worm bin. (many diy options out there, im ordering one plus worms will run me ~$100)
make a AACT (active aerated compost tea) brewer. (you will need a air pump, nylons, water, 1-5 gallon container, and a air stone $20)
add worm bin compost material (ewc) to layer the top of the soil add some lime perlite and your mineral mix. (top dress)
when the plant is done, chop off the plant at the soil level. Dig new hole, plant clone.(no till)
Thow old plant materials into worm bin after harvest.
water with a AACTea every 3rd watering or so. one handful of your soil, one handful of your worm bin material, a tsp of molasses, and a scoop of your nutrients thrown in the nylon sock, sock into 1-5 gallon container, air stone into water. let it "brew" for 48 hours. Rinse and repeat.
This whole set up cost me ~$350 With the yearly buy of a bag of rice hulls (aeration amendment) for $20, and nylon socks $4 per year. I will need to buy more fertilizer/amendments, but i bought all 4 lbs boxes and only used a third of it, ill be good for awhile. However all of the fertilizer/amendments was around 100 bucks. (Alfalfa, crap shell, lime, rock, kelp, tomato tone). The ewc is the most expensive part. With the worm bin you wont have to rebuy after the soil is built. Or you could wait for your bin to put out the casting you need. but that may take awhile depending on your bin.
Ok so i got long winded. And i type fast. If your only growing for personal consumption, something like what your showing is way overkill. Keep it simple. Keep it cheap. Your system there will proly need a water chiller. Thats $500 and you read all the time about people chillers going out. This entire organic growing set up is cheaper then ONE peice of important hydro equipment.
Edit: if making your own soil is not something your ready to do, look at Pro Mix BX Biofungicide and Mycorrhizae. While not as good as making your own, if you only need 20 gallons of soil, this is a good alternative. You are still going to top dress with ewc and AACT. and you will still need to buy the amendments for your teas/topdressing. but that drops the price down to 100 bucks for 22.5 gallons of soil that you will never have to replace.and $50/bale of Promix.
Make the soil (ill be using 6 10 gallon smart pots $40, entire soil cost me $250 with about 8 gallons leftover)
fill pots (throw in some worms)
plant dwarf white clover or microclover (living mulch that you "mow" once in awhile)
let pots set for 30 days (cook)
plant cannabis
start a worm bin. (many diy options out there, im ordering one plus worms will run me ~$100)
make a AACT (active aerated compost tea) brewer. (you will need a air pump, nylons, water, 1-5 gallon container, and a air stone $20)
add worm bin compost material (ewc) to layer the top of the soil add some lime perlite and your mineral mix. (top dress)
when the plant is done, chop off the plant at the soil level. Dig new hole, plant clone.(no till)
Thow old plant materials into worm bin after harvest.
water with a AACTea every 3rd watering or so. one handful of your soil, one handful of your worm bin material, a tsp of molasses, and a scoop of your nutrients thrown in the nylon sock, sock into 1-5 gallon container, air stone into water. let it "brew" for 48 hours. Rinse and repeat.
This whole set up cost me ~$350 With the yearly buy of a bag of rice hulls (aeration amendment) for $20, and nylon socks $4 per year. I will need to buy more fertilizer/amendments, but i bought all 4 lbs boxes and only used a third of it, ill be good for awhile. However all of the fertilizer/amendments was around 100 bucks. (Alfalfa, crap shell, lime, rock, kelp, tomato tone). The ewc is the most expensive part. With the worm bin you wont have to rebuy after the soil is built. Or you could wait for your bin to put out the casting you need. but that may take awhile depending on your bin.
Ok so i got long winded. And i type fast. If your only growing for personal consumption, something like what your showing is way overkill. Keep it simple. Keep it cheap. Your system there will proly need a water chiller. Thats $500 and you read all the time about people chillers going out. This entire organic growing set up is cheaper then ONE peice of important hydro equipment.
Edit: if making your own soil is not something your ready to do, look at Pro Mix BX Biofungicide and Mycorrhizae. While not as good as making your own, if you only need 20 gallons of soil, this is a good alternative. You are still going to top dress with ewc and AACT. and you will still need to buy the amendments for your teas/topdressing. but that drops the price down to 100 bucks for 22.5 gallons of soil that you will never have to replace.and $50/bale of Promix.
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Hey mate all of the above is good advice, everybodys setup is different due to individual requirements. I am toying with something similar to this but way less plant sites. Here is somehting you and others might want to consider and give me some feed back on.... If you reverse engineer the perfect grow space we are in my opinion wasting a lot of space and energy in my opinion. My biggest problem as an indoor grower is heat. I live in Australia, we max out at 45 degrees in the summer in the shade. So when i look at current grow set ups this is the biggest factor driving my build. Here in Australia we also have very draconian drug laws and and being charged with personal production or supply is a massive difference in penalties. Roughly if you get caught with ten plants or less, its a personal charge and of no real significance. If i filled that machine and got caught i would be screwed....
My build in my head looks like this....
4 300mm pvc pipes running vertical in each corner and bending at the floor to join and make a sealed chamber/reservoir. I intend to continuosly run water down the inside of the pipes and draw air through the tops using fans. Divide the length of the 300mm by three and insert large pots into cut outs. The plants drain into the pvc running vertically but draw water from external pipes that drip feed etc.... I have to figure out how to sit the pots in the pipes and keep them dry but continuosly run the water down the insides.... A little bit of tinkering but im sure i can do it. This is all pie in the sky stuff, but im trying to run four plants on each tier lit by leds. Essentially im trying to stack three scrogs on top of each other and use the cornered pipes as radiators/reservoir and pot holders in one..... Im looking to perpetually harvest AF in the future.... After installing all that bullshit i will more then likely run organic pots with drippers.... Hydro is hard work to maintain, these guys using organic soil mixes and just feeding water.... thats really apealling to me....
My build in my head looks like this....
4 300mm pvc pipes running vertical in each corner and bending at the floor to join and make a sealed chamber/reservoir. I intend to continuosly run water down the inside of the pipes and draw air through the tops using fans. Divide the length of the 300mm by three and insert large pots into cut outs. The plants drain into the pvc running vertically but draw water from external pipes that drip feed etc.... I have to figure out how to sit the pots in the pipes and keep them dry but continuosly run the water down the insides.... A little bit of tinkering but im sure i can do it. This is all pie in the sky stuff, but im trying to run four plants on each tier lit by leds. Essentially im trying to stack three scrogs on top of each other and use the cornered pipes as radiators/reservoir and pot holders in one..... Im looking to perpetually harvest AF in the future.... After installing all that bullshit i will more then likely run organic pots with drippers.... Hydro is hard work to maintain, these guys using organic soil mixes and just feeding water.... thats really apealling to me....
The way in which a mj plant grows is conical, so to me placing the pots in the corner and growing your plants into the centre of your space makes so much sense, the first 200mm of a plant stem is non producing so moving this part out to the worst lit place of the cannopy, i.e the corners is where this original idea stemmed from....
ttystikk
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Don't waste your money.
I built a better vertical cylinder myself, and it grows four plants around two HPS thouies- a pound or better apiece if you're on your game.
My cylinders use Wal-Mart storage tubs, spacers from cut-up five gallon buckets, netpot bucket lids, foil covered foam insulation board, 1" bulkhead fittings and hose, wire field fencing and a whole SHIT TON of vine clips, lol
One cylinder has just four plants, in your place I'd use three. Utilize the other six of your 'under ten' stems in a continuous veg to get your plants as big as possible. Chop three down, take three more clones, repeat.
I use thouies, you can use smaller lamps, just make the cylinder diameter smaller.
To deal with heat, buy a big fan, place it on the floor in the middle of the cylinder blowing straight up through it and run it on 'low' so as not to beat your plants up.
I built a better vertical cylinder myself, and it grows four plants around two HPS thouies- a pound or better apiece if you're on your game.
My cylinders use Wal-Mart storage tubs, spacers from cut-up five gallon buckets, netpot bucket lids, foil covered foam insulation board, 1" bulkhead fittings and hose, wire field fencing and a whole SHIT TON of vine clips, lol
One cylinder has just four plants, in your place I'd use three. Utilize the other six of your 'under ten' stems in a continuous veg to get your plants as big as possible. Chop three down, take three more clones, repeat.
I use thouies, you can use smaller lamps, just make the cylinder diameter smaller.
To deal with heat, buy a big fan, place it on the floor in the middle of the cylinder blowing straight up through it and run it on 'low' so as not to beat your plants up.
THE KONASSURE
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just get some of them things for hanging your shoes on the wall or back of a door
There like 1 to 2m long and each bag can hold 2 to 5L of coco or dirt you can do drippers or just take them down to water them
far cheaper
I saw that thing on the bay too
There like 1 to 2m long and each bag can hold 2 to 5L of coco or dirt you can do drippers or just take them down to water them
far cheaper
I saw that thing on the bay too
legallyflying
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WTF is that thing? It looks like something from a horror movie. "Return of the hydro piece of shit"