What would u do

SOMEBEECH

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Okay i have a 10 by 10 and 10ft ceiling now i have a 400watt hps with hortiluxeye bulb and alot of cfls like 2000 watts.have 5k btu window a/c.now i have a 4 by 4 section for the 400 for flowering and 2by 4 with moms,i have run into some extra coin and gonna use the hole area for grow just got a heatpump window a/c 220 so got about a grand to work with also now i have a stealth hydro the 6 holer basic drip then dwc after roots reach nutes.i know i need more lights and want to do hydro ganja godas hope u see would like some input,thanks peeps in advance.
 

ganjagoddess

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Well like you said you need more light, if you intend to expand that is.

Personally I would drop $600 on three 600 watt digitals from HTG.

Non air cooled hoods, basically cause for the extra cost its not worth it, and you have two ac''s if you needed, plus there 600's not 1000's

Then throw the rest $400 into pots and possibly COCO or more soil, some kind of medium that stays wet for a couple days and is reusable.

Either soil for terra, or coco for hydro...

Dont forget to set aside some for nutes.

Oh and thats assuming you already have ventilation and odor control (professional carbon filter)...

Maybe some pictures would help.
 

Londoner

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cor wish i ad that much space! Only got me 1.2m square budbox and nothing x nothing lol metre square for veg :cry: if high electricity bills arent a problem to you then yea go for the 3x600watters, if it is a problem go for a single 1000w on a light mover rail?? Maybe a Co2 system? Defo invest in some nutes for future, defo sufficient extraction and filtration if u havnt already :peace:
 

Londoner

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keep the 2x4 area for ya mamas and clones, seal it off from the rest of the room and get a 400w mh lamp or conversion lamp for your existing 400w ballast, use it for your mums and veggin clones. divide up the remainder of the room into 8 rough sections, take 5 clones, root then veg for 2weeks, then put that 5 into a section of the flowering room under 1000whps on a lightrail, do this every two weeks then after 8 wks your room is full of 40 plants with the first 5 ready to harvest, then harvest 5 more every two weeks! If u can average 2oz per plant thats 10oz every 2weeks! :mrgreen:
 

SOMEBEECH

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well no camera just dropped into the damn resivor,unreal my damn luck this month 1 for 6 on beans and now this,well i got the wall up and isulated then put RMAX board i made it 5x5.vic that would be hell going thru all that.so what cha think use that for flower then the remaining for moms and clones.ty ganja how would u configure with the 3 600s???its been over 100 here now for AWHILE now.got to go find another camera i know i wont get much help and advise without pics.:-?
 

VictorVIcious

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Al B Fuct has about a 10' by 10' room and he shares his setup with us. The first 10 pages are required reading, you will need to know, and he tells us later, his tables are really 2'8" sg not 4' by4'. He is harvesting about 3# a month right now. Get a Harvest Every Two Weeks VV
 

Londoner

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logistics nightmare? In what way? With a 1000w hps u could have it up fairly high to suit yr taller first flowering lot, it wouldnt make any difference to the smaller ones being a bit further away coz its a 1000w. Ive seen a set up like this on a bit of a bigger scale and it works well, its just a suggestion anyway the guy asked "wot would u do" and if i had that kinda space thats wot id do... :peace:
 

SOMEBEECH

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damn i got alot to learn been reading alb thread thats alot of weed i own a a/c business and dont have enough time during the summer so im gonna try to think this thru thanks lond and i do ty those who put there 2 cents in thats what i want still dont know what im gonna due but did make a 5by5 for flowering gonnna get a 3by3 tray for that tired of not having enough room to walk around thats how i tripped and ruined my camera.having to many problems with this dwc setup.
 

VictorVIcious

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So its just a difference of opinions. I don't think you would only be able to put 40 plants in there to begin with and I find a two week rotation works easier, tanks need to be changed then anyway. In Als setup he cover two 2'8" sq tables with a 1000 watt light 23 or so plants per table, total 4 tables plus the mothers, 1' by4' and the clones, about 2' sq.
It sounds like yours is just about the same. He does it that way to match his canna line nutes. There is some additve that is used and the weeks fit the two week schedule. VV
 

VictorVIcious

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damn i got alot to learn been reading alb thread thats alot of weed i own a a/c business and dont have enough time during the summer so im gonna try to think this thru thanks lond and i do ty those who put there 2 cents in thats what i want still dont know what im gonna due but did make a 5by5 for flowering gonnna get a 3by3 tray for that tired of not having enough room to walk around thats how i tripped and ruined my camera.having to many problems with this dwc setup.
I just made a table for a 3' by 3' flood tray, I think I posted it in my Blues Journal, and I know I posted a res adjustment that would save about $60.00 compared with the price they have for theirs with the lid for that tray. VV:blsmoke:
 

SOMEBEECH

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ty vic that looks good if i could only rollitaround with 40gallons of water lol.that was funny only like 320 lbs???due u use ebb flow trying to find the best way im back to buying the damn water chilller like earl has but chit im so confused,you say you tried alot of different hydro setups which do you find to be the most consistent.i mhaving to much temp diff, in my 5 gallon bucketts and the damn stealth hydro is acting up and i think its all due to these triple digits were having,maybe u can help earl was a little on the i dont know side water temp low is 65 and the high is 75 that to me is a big swing ive used both of these for 3 yrs but never that big of swing i used them in the winter never in the summer.ive used DM nutes till a bad batch this year and went with AN sensi grow a and b. i called my hydro guy and he said alot of peeps were having the same prob,as me so i chaNGED and a week later things were going great now i just dont know VV ANYTHOUGHTS?O H YEA I JUST WANT 16 OZS A MONTH,NOT 3LBS BEEN NICE TALKIN TO YA VIC
 
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VictorVIcious

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I use flood and drain, its the same watering as ebb and flow, except you don't use a seperate 'controller unit' with five float valves, a timer and a pump, no individual 'bucket lines'. I do use pots in my system, I like to be able to move plants easily. The effect of high water temps is that it holds less dissolved oxygen and can promote root rot and mold. I compensate two ways. All of my reses have a double air stone and the acion of the flood and drain. When the pump shuts off the water flows back to the res and pulls air down to the roots when it does so. Ideally, I would just buy 6 chillers and keep the water temp at 65 degrees. VV
 

SOMEBEECH

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ordered a 600hps VV,and have the 400hps with the eye bulb for some blue light.did u build your tray?? im thinking of a 4by4 or 3by3 tray for the 600 and use the 400 like ALB for the moms.talked with my hydro person and he said he use too lol run 2x1000 over 4by4 x2 said the corners did not get enough light.he owns a hydrostore near me so i really kinda scared to ask alot of?? for him if U know what i mean the other store around here is watched alot by the police following people and chit so i dont go there at all been dealing with david for 3 yrs so not really worried about him.now im using 900 watts of cfls for moms and hell its working great but once i start all the cuttings i dont know if they will keep up??hell they should only 10 cuts every 2 weeks should get me close to my desired wt.of 1 lb amonth if my figures work out :confused: i guess it will be trial and error??any thoughts peeps?ADD ANOTHER 2 MOMS???GOT SOME BCBIGBUD I CAN MAKE SOME MOMS,NOW ONLY AK47 MOMS I THINK 4 MOMS WILL WORK ....
 
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SOMEBEECH

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i know theres people outhere with some ideas put ur 2 cents in i need to make a decision.kiss-ass
 

SOMEBEECH

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friend just gave me a 400 mh would this help at all during flowering along with my 400 hps??? got some more plants i really need to flower seems id have to move plants around aLOT??
 

VictorVIcious

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I have run two types of system, flood and drain and drip, unless you want to count the aero-cloner. I did build my tables, the first four are copmpletely homemade except for the reses. The last two I built, I bought standard flood trays and built tables for them to sit on. This is a much better option in my opinion if you can find trays that fit your space. Al uses a 1000 watt hps over two 2'8" sq tables so he is covering roughlly 6' by 3' with each light. He has two ses like that and harvest every two weeks, about 1 oz per plant 23 plants. VV
 
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