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What is this? please help

Darknes01

Darknes01

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So I make nutrients in a 10 gallon tote and for the last 3 times this happens no matter what i do(see images )
Im adding , calmag, GH micro , bloom, grow, liquid Koolbloom and Silica.
No matter how much time i give in between adding the nuts this still happens and i cant figure out what it is.
I have 2 wavemakers in the tote so the water is circulating pretty fast and i give like 10 to 20 min in between adding the different nuts.
** it looks like GH micro so this last time i added everything but the micro and came next day ( water was perfectly clear ) then added the micro , came next day and it looks like this?
does anyone know what im doing wrong or what i can do to not have this happen.

dosage micro 60ml, grow 20ml, bloom 80ml, L. Kool 10ml , silica 15ml , calmag 30ml i get a ppm of about 1000 which is ok and plants are loving it.

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Wastei

Wastei

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Darknes01 said:
So I make nutrients in a 10 gallon tote and for the last 3 times this happens no matter what i do(see images )
Im adding , calmag, GH micro , bloom, grow, liquid Koolbloom and Silica.
No matter how much time i give in between adding the nuts this still happens and i cant figure out what it is.
I have 2 wavemakers in the tote so the water is circulating pretty fast and i give like 10 to 20 min in between adding the different nuts.
** it looks like GH micro so this last time i added everything but the micro and came next day ( water was perfectly clear ) then added the micro , came next day and it looks like this?
does anyone know what im doing wrong or what i can do to not have this happen.

dosage micro 60ml, grow 20ml, bloom 80ml, L. Kool 10ml , silica 15ml , calmag 30ml i get a ppm of about 1000 which is ok and plants are loving it.

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I don't think that's from nutrients falling out of solution. That's cyanobacteria aka brown slime and in the long run leads to pythium root rot. Does it cover metal and rubber fittings?

You need enzymes or an oxidizer to combat the algae/cyanobacteria growth.
 
Darknes01

Darknes01

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Wastei said:
I don't think that's from nutrients falling out of solution. That's cyanobacteria aka brown slime and in the long run leads to pythium root rot. Does it cover metal and rubber fittings?

You need enzymes or an oxidizer to combat the algae/cyanobacteria growth.
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I dont have anything metal in there that i can think of but the the uv light that i have inside was covered and the wave maker+the cord of the water maker( see photo ) was fully covered, im guessing those are hard plastic.
I added some h2o2 yesterday (100ml to 8 gallons of solution) and it looks like it cleared it up a little bit, if it was nutrients falling out of solution h2o2 should of had no effect in my opinion. right?
 
Wastei

Wastei

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Darknes01 said:
I dont have anything metal in there that i can think of but the the uv light that i have inside was covered and the wave maker+the cord of the water maker( see photo ) was fully covered, im guessing those are hard plastic.
I added some h2o2 yesterday (100ml to 8 gallons of solution) and it looks like it cleared it up a little bit, if it was nutrients falling out of solution h2o2 should of had no effect in my opinion. right?
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You're completely right. Good call! H2O2 can be tricky to work with. Many people have great results with it and it's completely safe to use in right concentrations.

I use chlorine. Chlorine is less tedious to use in the long run. I use Pool shock at 0.2g per 10 gallon ~2ppm residual chlorine. Adding every third day.
 
Wastei

Wastei

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CannabisErecticus said:
you’ll never get your ph correct if you don’t add and mix the silica first
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Not true from my experience. The only thing is the solution get cloudy for a couple of hours. It normally clears and dissolves after a while. I use potassium silicate as ph up when it's needed, straight in the nutrient solution. Works fine.
 
CannabisErecticus

CannabisErecticus

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Wastei said:
Not true from my experience. The only thing is the solution get cloudy for a couple of hours. It normally clears and dissolves after a while. I use potassium silicate as ph up when it's needed, straight in the nutrient solution. Works fine.
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I’ve only not added it first one time and my ph wouldn’t budge down one tenth even after adding down multiple times, never made the mistake again
 
Darknes01

Darknes01

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I dont use armor SI , currently im using rhino skin silica which is ph balanced so no issues there and i dont have ph issues in the reservoir.
Now regarding using h2o2, I used to use this religiously but stopped after talking to General Hydroponics and what they said makes sense.
Their input was that 1st, if h2o2 was a safe way to keep the res sterile they would of made a product and sold it ( This makes sense to me honestly / h2o2 is relatively cheap and not a single nutrient maker uses it as part of their cycle)
2nd, what he told me was that h2o2 is an oxidizer due to the free oxygen molecule which can and probably does attack the minute trace metallic elements in the nutrient and that is why they never suggest using it.
I now use athena cleanse which is basically watered down bleach.
any and all suggestions are welcomed.
 
Mirrordawn

Mirrordawn

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redi jedi said:
Watered down bleach....smh
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Most DWC specific nutrients have some kind of plant safe bleach. I know in Current Culture's UC Roots is a neutral PH descaler. There is not many other ways to get rid of unwanted bacteria without running some kind of UV Filter.
 
Darknes01

Darknes01

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Mirrordawn said:
Most DWC specific nutrients have some kind of plant safe bleach. I know in Current Culture's UC Roots is a neutral PH descaler. There is not many other ways to get rid of unwanted bacteria without running some kind of UV Filter.
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Update** I added some h2o2 and it not only cleared up the entire thing but made the water little milky. So i figured it might of interacted badly with athena cleanse that i had in it or with the silica. I made new fresh water and only used the 3 part from GH and added h2o2 to see if it will happen again or not, today is the 2nd day and the water is crystal clear , hopefully it will stay that way.
Also i do have a UV light in the tank but this time i decided not to use it since uv interacts with iron(if im not mistake) and devoids the water of it. Ill try to update the post in a few more days if everything is ok then h2o2 was my answer to the issue.
just a heads up that the athena cleanse, which is a plant safe bleach did not help at all, even when adding at maximum dose from bottle recommendation.
 
Hollatchaboy

Hollatchaboy

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Darknes01 said:
Update** I added some h2o2 and it not only cleared up the entire thing but made the water little milky. So i figured it might of interacted badly with athena cleanse that i had in it or with the silica. I made new fresh water and only used the 3 part from GH and added h2o2 to see if it will happen again or not, today is the 2nd day and the water is crystal clear , hopefully it will stay that way.
Also i do have a UV light in the tank but this time i decided not to use it since uv interacts with iron(if im not mistake) and devoids the water of it. Ill try to update the post in a few more days if everything is ok then h2o2 was my answer to the issue.
just a heads up that the athena cleanse, which is a plant safe bleach did not help at all, even when adding at maximum dose from bottle recommendation.
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Always add silica first. And let it dilute for an hour before adding nutes.
 
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sfao

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Hi Same problem at home. I use tripart flora, pro roots, silicate, fulvic. I have this problem with growth and cuttings. I put the tripart and pro roots. For the flowering, I added the silicate badly so it is at the bottom of the tank but the water is clean. And I didn't put proroots. But you don't use any... the worry will come from elsewhere?! How to proceed?
- silicate
-micro
And the rest?
And the pH?
Proroots?

If I make this order is good?
- silicate
-micro
-grow
-bloom
-proroots
-fulvic
-pH

Do I have to wait a certain amount of time between each addition?
The weather conditions are good, no light sources in the bins ...

sorry for this english
 
Hollatchaboy

Hollatchaboy

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sfao said:
Hi Same problem at home. I use tripart flora, pro roots, silicate, fulvic. I have this problem with growth and cuttings. I put the tripart and pro roots. For the flowering, I added the silicate badly so it is at the bottom of the tank but the water is clean. And I didn't put proroots. But you don't use any... the worry will come from elsewhere?! How to proceed?
- silicate
-micro
And the rest?
And the pH?
Proroots?

If I make this order is good?
- silicate
-micro
-grow
-bloom
-proroots
-fulvic
-pH

Do I have to wait a certain amount of time between each addition?
The weather conditions are good, no light sources in the bins ...

sorry for this english
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Add silicate first always. Then let it sit for an hour to dilute. Then add micro,grow,bloom,fulvic,proroots, then ph.
 
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